12 skills restored in the first little balance for pve.
Sure its buffs but buffs work for monsters as well as players.
LOD and shadow form are two fairly important skills
shadow form with shadow stepping can be effective
if they can just put pve shadow stepping back how it was I will be content.
pvp players concerned that it will stop people joining pvp from pve might take note that some people have had three years . From their experiences are not impressed with pvp I'm not blaming skills or tactics I blame f*ckwits.
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5/11/08 - 10:49
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Would you consider PvP to get a little bit stale at sometimes?
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Nah pvp never gets stale so long as you take frenzy, rush, bull strike, IDK some kind of disrupting skill and res sig. Your looking at a completely original build that hasn't been used constantly for the last 3 years. I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to pvp when ever people try to get me involved I get zero input for the team build. I like to go ra and learn the hard way.
I haven't got a thick skin at all grrr etc. pve and pvp are different and they all mock me. how it infuriates me.
the bit in the middle
5/10/08 - 12:29
I agree with you and at the same time I disagree with you /turtle dragon. Pve players aren't all the detritus of society with the traditional supply of offline role playing games drying up there are some people who genuinely like to kill monsters for gold and get a better sword to kill more monsters. It’s important to note that for these sad loners an update like this is sent from the stars.
it clearly causes friction when I complain that incoming nerf is screwing up umm oh wait let me pick a skill that’s affected me in pve soul reaping... no wait actually I think the cap on minions was the only one that I gave a brief sigh over. You might want to check the posts from when it happened. Because there isn't one from me.
I don’t claim to know pvp but it seems a little odd that it’s a pvp nerf.
Perhaps one day I will understand. It must have been a coincidence that people at the time sold runs on missions with mm controlling 30 or so bone fiends that it might just have done some good to balancing pvp as well as pve. However I'm clearly not as bright as the average pvp only player. My world being this tiny little box where light shines on me from above as mighty giants bless me with their wisdom.
Sure pvp is a nice distraction but its not why I payed for the game (in fairness I have had my moneys worth thanks anet). Yes I would like to see nerfing directed at pve and I believe allot of pve players would agree that.
With people using ursan well yeah it’s been discussed into the ground and it’s the new why pve sucks.
That giving people just what they want is always so negative, no not really.
It highlights a point in the case of ursan. No one pve can really cry nerf while that skill is there it’s like the use of /god in quake.
Thus all other skills are fair game and what would be better than to play merry hell with skills when the monsters have them /scratched record.
You could add more blindness to things, buff "cant touch this" improve slowdown skills water could use some help, balanced stance, b pendulum idk skills that seem unimportant in many pve areas but when in the hands of a monster facing a bear. Energy however is the key Mesmers have strength against ursan in that when your energy runs dry your no longer an uber tank.
Of course I'm not just thinking about Mesmers or ursan no the possibility to improve the difficulty of "hard mode" are almost endless it’s not up to me it’s up to you.
Izzy has a page in-fact I feel it important to mention he has two pages:
One where you rant about how he ruined your life with mending nerfs and
One where you put forward suggestions.
I'm not going to provide a link (this is a kind of filter that sorts the wheat from the chaff [chaff = people who cant type or search and who don't have a wikki account]).
Anyway b*ll*cks to arguing the toss over will they do anything to pve skills we have to wait and see.
If they don't then yeah your all right GW pve is a dead horse and they want to free up some server space for the all important pve only core uber guys.
If they change even one skill then they do care about pve players and there is room for the both of us.
Sometimes I doubt there is room for just one however I like diversity so the elitist jerks have my blessing and lots of it.
saves doing a second thingy :
woahs lol me an aaon actually I didn't insult aaon when I said he was shallow and scientific its a compliment. as deep people tend to lose the meaning of umm and philosophical people are lost at maximising the efficiency of a team build swayed by non practical applications like the 1hp minion master. fascinating but useless understanding skills and finding hidden uses (or uselessnesses). provokes anger from people as does poking the mighty tiger with a twig. However dumb this sounds I think I will post more from now on. even if its just for entertainment value.
edit : also
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intention of the old system but too much whining came from pve players whenever a pvp balance occurred.
now I didn't get involved in the monsters run from agro nerf much so I don't understand how that changed pvp. I't made pve a better place and maybe pvp became easyer in relations to pve. I see your point about how pve players complain oh lordy the flames that day.
edit 2: I expect your wondering how I could miss so many complaints about a pvp nerf thats playing on your mind you know why its because I cant think of any. I played the game for 3 months before I realised sr was nerfed and when into a flap about it until I had a look at it properly realised I made a fuss over something that was barely noticeable the cap on minions (yeah I bet ra was quiet that day). didn't make a difference actually those pve players who shout and screem about nerfs I havent seen in ages.
meh
5/9/08 - 06:40
I think ursan was designed to make pve players move over to pvp. Like saying hey here is a tool to complete the game with so you can concentrate on the wacky world of pvp grab your touch rangers and your gimmik builds and grind those meta nerds into the ground with cookie cutters xD. there is allot to be said for keeping pve only players in pve only im not going to say that because why open myself up for pvp elitest guys to rain fire down on me?
Nice guide. On the wor you might change that to 12 resto. I love barbs not as keen on jagged bones as I am on order of undeath. Putrid flesh is good with death nova but its possibly not so hot on heroes. Masochism does not cover oou
With botm spam on a 1 hp necro can lead to very tough minions yes I mean a seperate 1hp necro botm will heal all minions on your team
then deleted it because :/ I don't care I don't have to use Ursan if I don't like it. teams arent ruined by its introduction because last time I looked search players for teams was empty until pve only skills came along. Heroes took away team play and pve only skills gave it back kinda dented and smeared I cant complain about anet I can only really complain about human instinct to go for the ultimate (like sup axe runes its not actually better but people think it is. the human mind will take 3.99 plastic junk in favor of the 4.00 van gogh sun flower because its cheaper. dont look at other people as being morons because we are all morons from time to time. your not seeing your best buddies suddenly becoming sell outs your looking at people
ursan roar lvl 8 = 13 extra damage, lvl 10 = 15 extra
30% faster of 33% faster
120 or 125
68 or 75
ok so grind hard mode for weeks for an extra boost my god what a massive boos hey everyone lets get a sup axe mastery roon... [sarcasm] yeah the guys insisting on r10 ursan are just the kind of guys I would like to go party with [/sarcasm] and why do they want r10 not because of the extra dmg but because of the extra grind.give the noobs a badge I say so nice and easy to spot. thanks anet ggno in fairness i like ursan as it separates the men from the boys.
I refer to my "if you just look at numbers" speach yeah sure give them a quick glance don't live off em. Ursan sure nice skill but Infact I can point to necrosis as being my reson for not bothering most of the time.
I said some mean stuff about ursan and I still use it some times when I feel like it. But I don't have to and its over rated. *pulls fence post out of bottom*
bah fakitwhoamikiddin
2/29/08 - 08:22
x.x
as is tradition I post the whole thing here
edit 2 : What do I feel they should nerf, well buffing counters aint gonna work so I suppose hex removal few little tweeks till I start seeing the odd brave little necro who isnt a spirit bch or a spike slave. everyone will just read past my post lol were do I get my crazy ideas from.
I don't wanna piss on peoples parade so i post it out of the public eye and no I'm not pvp but i still have opinions about pvp and necro and sin dont get the chance to use their natural skills warriors do "godly damage" anyone would think skill had nothing to do with it.
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actually with seeing less and less of warriors on frontline and buffs to all the other melee classes i wouldnt be a bit surprised to see dervs and sins hit while warrs are buffed...with AoB out of the way id expect to see alot more evis+D-slash frontliners
SUPRISE!!!
legacy
2/22/08 - 07:10
ok well when you read the same thing over and over again by different people.
and did people really take stan's picture serious? WOA!
Ya everyone knows Stan makes fun of everything on this forum =P
Just take a look at what he does to his gf!
Clixorz (comment 4)
Well if you turn to page 2 I suggested freezing your girlfriend and cutting her arm off. :/ hmm killed that thread pretty hard.
As for the rest of the stuff rogue you have a good point but this is not a democracy it is a forum. Sometimes it might not seem fair because, it is not fair. I'm not from America but we have free speech in the UK and some parts of Europe. It is an American forum I know this because the dates are all f up I mean its like month then day? Anyway not really adding anything here other than perhaps from what I have seen meg probably wasn't all that harsh but possibly harsh in the wrong place.
Guy shows up first day on amp "Hi I'm new :D"
welcome to amp, edited
edited
hi I'm new I have a question that seems dumb
http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/66140.php here you go little critter have a s load of answers all wrapped up in fluffy love rainbows... yeah I lost a few like that warrior who wanted a secondary prof and everyone argued about monk vs ele. arguing with the guy who started the thread good healthy intersting arguments... with a new guy.
well i cooked lamb
2/10/08 - 11:51
leg of lamb to be precise and here is where I got my info
he is some hippie who kills all the things he eats which is a bit weird but I'm sure he knows how to do a good potato.
Delia is a froob she tried to tell the UK how to boil an egg... so I'm taking the timing from here thing of about 2 hours I like stuff well done and the foil idea from the Mike Robinson thing... it looks nice I been basting like crazy so I think it might take a bit longer than I originally thought.
also its a fan assisted oven so I should reduce the times but I wont. it cant be too well done for me.
meh
2/7/08 - 10:48
I stopped accomplishing things a while back. Getting every prof (apart from mes) through chapter 1 some of the twice.
Then getting a few of them through factions and nightfall.
Learning all I could about all the skills form all the profs, seems like means if I don't play warrior in PVP to many I will never have played at all. those people can bite me
earlyer post i missed the bottom part
1/11/08 - 07:45
i missed the bottom part because
a : its not the rant thread
b : it wouldnt change a thing
c : the sake of the image the game holds for people tho idly look upon ga
d : the image of ga as a mature forum
etc basically I decided being the crackpot in a thread full of crackpots wouldnt really add anything to the debate of which there is no debate.
nice post I put some cred in your third post because the first two probably full.
your right some skills promote more active players and improve reaction times.
A fast player and an intuitive player is indeed a good player disrupting chop vs Distracting Blow?
I used a warrior skill to emphasise that sometimes a skill would make a more skilled player but is not always superior.
Both are active skills (I believe you would call them). However "chop is either a mind readers interrupt or is only good for ele skills. tbh not many high end ele would be in a position to be casting metior shower while you are stood next to him building up adrenalin"...
You can use dchop more often.
If you catch a pattern and you are a good player you can use dchop on any skill if you hit before the skill comes up. People use combos (I hope you know what I mean when I say that like they are playing street fighter and they have it all planned out and are blinded by their amazing idea).
You can lower their hp knowing they will compensate with something lame like healing breeze the moment they get to 50% or the moment they see bleeding. and for the benefits of not having to expend valuable mana you use an adrenalin skill you compensate the disadvantage with cunning and skill and this makes you a better player than the guy who uses Distracting Blow. It is the lazy player who uses DB and a zel mod when he could be using vamp or sundering or what ever he chooses... I don't know if that example was the best to illustrate this your healing metaphors for want of a better word seem to run along the same line of thinking.
To encourage the player to look at the battle field rather than at his health bar and skill bar much in the same way that a touch typer would look at the screen rather than his keyboard. Anyway I read and felt the post was worthy of merit in credit because it does hold insight.
I was going to go on but I think I will refrain
Only one minor detail may be incorrect
http://www.guildwars.com/gameplay/synopsis/ the games original design was not just for pvp.
however I would say that for aspects of skill development human players have taken the game to different levels with their input in the game mechanics it has become the purpose of the game for a large part of both the comnuity and the developers. So with that said would the pve only players now kindly leave the thread this is in the pvp section is about pvp and your just spoiling a very good post. As I would round on a pvp player destroying a good pve thread I just like a good thread.
they wouldn't have sold this many copies if everyone sold the game was expecting pvp only or the blurb would say amazing pvp game with three huge continents of added material. quake was a pve game that was way better as a pvp game but people still got it because of doom and wanted to play pve. Im right I know I'm right pve might be better but its not the reason gw sold this many copies. Its not the reason the game was made its the reason the game is still going if only for you and thousands like you. but how many hours of programming went into the pve aspect and how many players paid to play the pve part ask yourself honestly.
did you buy this game because you heard about its awsom pvp aspect? now look at you all putting people off the game in its entirety by your childish BS pvp is great its world class but allot of good players wont play it because its not accessable
you can buy bmp
1/10/08 - 06:42
gah pfft they tricked me I thought it was just for people who read up on a confusing marketing scheme and jumped through hoops like a dog. well I suppose I got my moment of reward being the smart exclusive obedient one who understood that this would only be available to me if I did x and y like staying up till 2am to get a hat. I'm glad for those of you that will get the chance to buy this. It doesn't affect me but had I known perhaps I might have done things differently.
oh the humanity [/sarcasm]
1/9/08 - 02:54
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not to hold your hand and be happy rainbows shooting out of our butts.
HEY! now you just wait a moment young lady. If I want to have rainbows shooting out of my butt then rainbows shoot out of my butt. My standard reply may contain at least one butt loaded with sugar coated rainbow missiles. However its not a requirement of anyone else but I claim my right of inetnerpedance to furry snuggle wuggle little pony happy thoughts, find a happy place, find a happy place. ok I suppose what I should say is I actually don't try and stop people being who ever they want to be if they criticise I would be a hypocrite to try and stop them so I don't I belittle them being a hypocrite for that is much more rewarding. Sometimes a point can only be made via hipocratic teaching
http://wiki.cities.totl.net/w/Pinata_Summon
and i got rid of most of my i cant post this section. Time to start afresh a new year a new me
1/9/08 - 12:29
Hmm yes people have to work very hard to earn my disrespect.
I can understand we all play a different game. Many chose damage mixed with a cunning use of what I call the by-product of a skill to imobalise. Many of those appreciate other styles of play gimmick was mentioned earlier any exploit is a strength... hmm If you plug every skill into a formulae and list them in order of damage for a lame spike build and release one a month you can sit back and watch a beautiful game slowly destroyed. 8 skills in a 3rd order system running simulations against a billion different combinations. Damage master gives them wings.
Of course I will have differences of opinion but I know it works for them balanced team has perhaps become a meta build in itself. An infinite amount of wrong ways leaving only yourway.
Yes I would stand up for the arrogant guys. They play the game well. Who read up on each other
So a bad poem
My way or the highway :/ you mean they never tried the highway... its much quicker.
My way is the try way, try this stuff out hey works great. While I was there I tried with this and this and that.
Some of it worked better some was worse.
I tried here and there.
I tried as your profession.
I tried with your profession with every single secondary.
Didnt learn my lesson :/
Time for me to boast?
No not really I'm still learning. I'm still making mistakes. I still get angry and say things I don't mean.
I still lose it.
I still forget to say thank you posters of gameamp.
I came for a map and stayed.
I read every skill, saw binary solo a hydra.
Saw stan two swords, Silly cartoons of a ranger, lolcats outrage and omg they nerfed my mage.
Iway, Droks run :( thunderhead is no fun.
gold sellers, pokemon :S, rabits hunt.
I cant think of one of you who hasn't posted something that made me smile or made me think.
Ahh I cant post this it sounds rude
:/ why of all times of the year
12/25/07 - 12:16
yep its christmas without a ocmputer for me it broke on the 23rd i think. i have the use of someone elses but I cant really put games on it or spend muh time doing anything on it. this Is not too bad its weird not being on my pc all day like i used to be. also not having a spellcheker on is anoying.
RL
12/5/07 - 04:04
WELL I START A NEW JOB TOMORROW AND IT LOOKS LIKE I WONT HAVE TIME FOR ALLOT OF MY GW PLANS AS ITS 6AM TILL 4PM AND ITS IN CHEPSTOW IM NOT RIDING MY BIKE ATM BECAUSE I GOT THIS... umm caps lock ok well yeah i got a new car my third in as many months cars and me arent getting allong right now when i buy them they seem to have a whole bunch of things wrong with them.
Rapid flow order MM (pve build farming asuran points)
12/5/07 - 03:41
Skills :
Clearly I made an error there there should be a sup death rune on death headgear to give +16 on the death attrib.
Never mind its just a blog.
Equipment :
well a +1 20% chance on death magic is a good start and +energy is also nice as for the armor the + armor when controling x minions is great when you have lots of minions but at those times you tend not to need it in pve.
USE :
Leaving rata sum by the south exit you will find a fair number of squids they die pretty easy with henchmen and this is a good place to start to build your army. use the other skills are pretty powerful and have a good recharge time in order to help you kill a few stragglers. once you have a small army use order every chance you get bring 2-3 monks its not a challenge in nm. Clearing the map takes less than an hour. Blocks to it why do I bother maybe I will edit in the rest later but right now I cant see the point.
I Did another guide
12/5/07 - 03:27
I didn't save my other guide so I guess its gone it basically simple enough.
I have the image in my image gallery of the skills and attributes and its simple enough to use.
It revolves around using glyph of imolation on fire magic 8 with my normaly curses build.
In ab I find myself not using some skills during battle and thought there must be a use for those pointless slots.
Necro skills take a while to cast and take a fair bit of energy.
So to dedicate some in between skill to them for when I'm not fighting seemed logical.
something to go faster between shrines is helpfull and helps run away.
Some thing to heal with healing others is good but there ya go.
I normally keep spinal shivers in because it works if some guy in my team has a glacial blade then I'm on happy street.
I lost most of it but i still have some
12/5/07 - 03:17
ab guide
Ok well Here is my guide for Aliance battles Necro
What:
What is my build and setup?
Skills :
Equiptment :
The equipment preferable should be high energy/health
Personally for the runes I use a sup curses on my headgear to achieve the 16 curses, however it is not as important to some people as the health.
I have a sup vig rune on gloves and survivor or undertaker insignias on bits of my armor. One soul reaping rune on the socks helps.
if your a pvp charicter its easy to swap and change to what suits your playing sytle.
I would recommend using a pvp character to test this build before going out and buying lots of expensive stuff for your necro.
When :
During aliance battles while trying to cap shrines.
How, Why, Who etc? :
Why
The aim of the game is to cap as many shrines as you can your team of four players should be constantly moving for this build to work. Alltho it is pretty good at dualing and mob smashing its not ment for that, and all profs should be smarter than to try either of those two things. Slowing down a mob if you have no means of escape is valient and might buy a few seconds of shrine time but its a waste of a player.
Who and How
fallback
Use team chat to let the team in on your plan and use "fall back" shout to help them get there quicker its also helpfull for a small ammount of healing.
When you use fall back wiggle about to get the most of the healing if your on a shrine.
Spitefull Spirit and insidiouse parasite
Cast spitefull spirit and parasite on different foes that guard a shrine caster shrines are ideal for this.
say two necro and a mes on a shrine cast ss on the mes then tab to the necro and parasite him then spinal shivers on the third and start plugging away with some cold damage from your wand or staff.
Or two monks spitefull spirit on the first monk and spinal shivers on the second tab back and forth to check if they are using an enchantment strip if they do. You should have a team of 4 people in effect you add some damage and intrupt as part of a team (hopefully).
Should you be forced into a dual.
The cant touch this skill is for the times when you are persued by a touch ranger fallback wont be enough to outrun him so use cant touch this followed swiftly by spinal shivers. if you can swap to icy daggers with a "i have the power" mod, do so and interupt his touch skills till both of you run out of power or cant touch this recharges (swap back to staff and he cant touch you. I have done this a few times and it works but its not great.
most touch rangers are loosers and will wander off and bother someone else. spitefull them as a parting gift and they often die
In place of cant touch this is a good skill called defile defences will do approximately 120 hp damage to a sin or warrior thats allready suffereing from spitefull and parasite. It is just enough to push them over the edge and has a good recharge time.
A mes, well thease guys are normally my downfall. If you can start on anything start on spitefull spirit and use fallback they tend to target spells so you might have some backfire check to see what they did to you before doing anything rash. You wont see hex breaker but its pretty tame if you check yourself in time and never surrender will help. again spinal shivers will come in handy if like me you use this allot a mana pool of 40-50 is a must you can get more but if you take your sweet time you wont need it.
Plague sending is mainly for the
Rangers and dervishes a tough nut to crack lets start with dervish keep an eye out for mystic regeneration and strip it asap many othe enchantments will give you a nasty shock when you strip them so be ready with plague sending and remeber that with IP you can get allot of health when they hit more than one foe preferable over spitefull spirit.
If your out to bag a dervish use rend enchantments instead of rip. Again spinal will put make them weak as little kittens normally.
Ok rangers are normally a pain two interupting shots and its all over for you so if you get interupted shout and run or hand them some rubbish to interupt. Strip enchantment and Spinal and then shout "never surrender". If they used both interupts and start parasite, spinal, plague sending. Rangers take a bit of practice they are versatile guys and your best hope is a beast master. They arent going to take a hex off their pet so spitefull works wonderfully un noticed and its allways in just the right place :D.
Not sure if I left a few professions out but those tend to be the main ones I face.
There are plenty of counters to this build but remeber they dont get to see my build before i go into battle and they would be stupid to spend all days fixing just to kill me me alone.
Good points :
Well its pretty versatile and I wanted to try and be a jack of all trades its not an instant kill spike build its not so much about damage for capping shrines it works well with most other profs. with ab you dont know what your going to get most of the time with a team. one thing is sure most of your team mates will be searing flames, sin dualist, dervish tankers etc so to support them and make them last a bit longer and cap a bit faster is the nearest to a team build. yes there are counters to this build but they are obscure and same skills different order I have all it takes here to bring down allot of profs (with a little help).
Bad points :
The healing is not that great when i go ful necro I take parasitic bond as a cap for all my curses
alternativly if full necro hexers vig or signet of lost souls. healing is an important part of ab and in this build I try to take on healing my team a little as well as myself often there is a good oppertunity to buff the team between shrines and without becoming a paragon its the best I could do. If blood was my build it would be well of blood.
This build requires some team work so its flat on its face sometimes.
To be honest its not the best necro build out there its just about batting ideas around, so get on those comments and rip it to shreds.
I can follow it up with some more crazy builds. I got hundreds ;D
Well how it works is the bit where traditionally these things fall down so I have a vid umm its not perfect but it shows my use of the first 4 skills.
However it is plastered in adds because I was too cheap to buy a vidio editor please forgive me.
Rofl copters blood build
11/11/07 - 12:19
I tryed a buid from this guy who got flamed on wikki.
I tryed it because it made me laugh, because it was funny.
SKILLS :
Its something different to do. It works against warriors who attack with their eyes shut or people who have a mele skill chain that doesnt do that much damage.
One thing I would say is the poster understands to have a large health pool (yeah because you lose allot of health).
I would put much of the if there is any sucess down to that.
I tryed it in ra and was the last of my team to die possibly because I used the skills differently and hid in shame allot of the time. it might do better in ab :/.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10176974
For anti mele I tend to work on what a warrior does rather than put myself in harms way like that. More importantly i try to make my build cause damage to everyone.
Its fairly standard issue stuff I would recommend for anyone considering making a necro.
Spitefull, Spirits
Sig lost souls,
Archane echo,
Insid parasite,
Spinal shivers,
Rip enchantment (untill not long ago i was using envenom for derv recharge is not as good) or chillblanes (if your thinking touch then use prot bond & plague touch bring a large mana pool)
Reckless Haste (all the fun of price of fail reduces the time for them to realise many come back for more :S pride comes before a fall :)
or Defile Defenses (defile defences works a treat to knock the last 100 or so hp off when they least expect it)
Parasitic Bond (well its a good cap on the hex fast and provides a stead streem of hp at random moments), or Plague Sending ... (hmm tho i honestly don't use it much no wonder they buffed it its handy if you meet a burning arrow poison ranger surprising how many are stupid enough to try conditions on a necro... the reason i dont bring/use it much is because stupid people are often rare and degen is more often a hex.)
I use pretty much this build on most things have done for more than a year things come and go and someone nerfed most of those skills they don't last as long/cost more. Its not much of a team build I know but then all those skills ignore armer. most necros tend to use a similar or infact the same build.
Much as other skills do well against that damage test guy he has no armer a minion master who is casting death nova gets pretty numbers but if your trying to dodge weave and stay alive. I put blood above death when it comes to bosses or heavily armored humans because it also ignores armer it says steals 63 hp thats exactly what it does. if you can spam it 10 times before they have a chance to heal themselves 4 times then your in with a chance. the only way blood works is in combination with other skills. if you want degen then life siphon and faintheartedness make 6 degen that lasts a fairly long time its not a killer but it adds a bit of pressure.
Suffering PB and rotting flesh combined with Necrotic Traversal give you 8 on conditions and 3 on hex condition removal is allot quicker and easier. swings and roundabouts until you try them.
Spiteful spirit was recommended to me buy a guy in an alliance a while back and I put skills around it slowly moving away from blood and death. I revisit them from time to time I think sr could be put to better use icy veins is a favorite of mine. I would say that the build automatically occours to all necros because they fit together but i probably saw someone else use it or elements of it. when i was able to watch pvp I soon saw a load of necros all doing the same thing and thaught you theiving b8t8rds but they arent... the reason all necros who go curses seem to use the same skills because there are so few skills that actually do reliable damage. and the support skills are waisted on the majority of players paragon flopped because of the mentality of most player. The world is simple warrior and monk.
People get scared when sacrifice is involved its a natural "give up hp to cause pain?" reaction. in a way anet confirmed their fears by making most sacrifice skills pointless rather than give armEr ignoring damage they should have given a huge number that most armer would reduce to the same ammount then everyone would sac.
ahh well i capped all the elites now
7/25/07 - 07:23
went on a bit of a marathon plenty of support from the guild with advise and help.
hah my internet got taken off line
1/3/06 - 06:29
well i must have seemed quiet for a couple of days on newyears eve at about midnight my internet stopped because i had a new card. i had to update and fair play to pipex on the second of jan its back and working fine. should have gone dd perhaps well nm not got a hat for all my charicters but i think that perhaps thats all for the best. i read terry prattchetts "thud" planted some more trees and started and finnished quake 4 so its not like i wasnt busy.. hmm perhaps i should have been looking for a job instead well im off to see the carrers advice lady todays and am thinking of starting some kind of buisness. and make a nice new cv with some proffessional help im sure it cant be a bad thing to try.
decided not to post this one
12/21/05 - 09:50
they more often would call it an exploit they may shut those down.
they play the game and they would know aobut this stuff by now i think.
sure the thunderhead thing is using your initiative.
i think they nerf stuff because it causes problems with everyone constantly doing the same thing over and over again, to get more xp or to get more gold or to get more of something.
you get xp from killing in missions but i dont see how else your going to gain from it second time around. so exploiting the game isnt what this is about unless your a charciter junky trying to beat the game with every class.
replayability is a word that most game decelopers love because if we didnt matter they wouldnt want to anoy us.. with the second chapter comming up and all.
why i cant understand if there was an exploit in the doppleganger why they would ban peoples accounts for using it unless the word exploit has a darker meaning in this case.
i mean everyone knows the strats for having a chance with the doppleganger are thease the exploits?
details are a mystery to me, but i think allot of things would have been nerfed would have been nerfed by now.
trying to keep stuff a secret isnt going to stop them i.
the only thing that will stop nerfing is for people to not find any imbalances in the game. i dont see how beating a mission any faster would be used as an exploit unless people ... running the missions for money.
i shouldnt have said that but its not like some secret every mission on the us servers is filled with people just running missions for people.
i think they wont nerf people running missions.
because its not going to affect peoples bandwidth or gaming experience.
now... do i post this or not post this?
would anet change the game because of something like this?
only if it got out of hand and everyone decided to run missions for money.
you decide is it a good thing or a bad thing?
hmm i think im goilg to post this one along with my other posts that would get me negative cred in my profile blog
its been a long day
12/9/05 - 10:09
well i managed to fit in two runs in thunderhead keep and my usual xp farm for another skill point in sorrows furnace. and i did a little map of the mission thunderhead keep. and i did something ive been meaning to do for a long time which is to explor that area of magumma jungle ive been wandering about. i was hopeing that the area would yeild much more map than it did it turns out i was just about to complete a circle with my other charicter jamnetta. well i will post up some pictures of my adventures as soon as i can be bothered but right now im shattered.
right then another day another skill point
12/8/05 - 06:09
even tho i was also planting trees i managed to get one skill point. i spent it on a cap sig today may as well get something i dont need ready for the big nerf everyone is doom saying will happen to the necro and i figure i will stick with my idea that when i get attacked they take damage. spitefull seems to be pretty potent and if they use it like an aoe thats ok with me i dont like getting hit. i figure i might want to add some of that prot stuff ive been looking at and today i got sheild of defection in rof. i figure with the price of failure it might come in handy. so once i get the msiting retribution... add them all up and i become dont toutch sign ba seems handy if i see a caster getting hurt even with no attrib they run away. so its a get off them spell.much as people complain about the aoe its a good thing that so many people can clear a certain part of the map you could even drive the enemy back so far that the rangers could be the only ones to hit them. i think ele and ranger teams would be excellent. the ele drives them to the back of the net and the ranger plinks away at them. they are running away means they have there back turned and thus you do more damage. well thats my thaught for the day not that anyone else will read it.
ok todays blog
12/7/05 - 04:02
ok todays blog should also be a post because i was trying to post this as a reply to,.. i think it was a rant. but when i clicked submit i got a blank window and rather than click refresh and have a nice double post i decided to close the window.
ok i allmost allways go in pugs Pickup User Groups) and have had more good groups than bad. and when i do get a bad group its normally not the whole group that bad it has to be said even a random group be it 4 or 8 will have 1 moron sometimes.
having just done iron mines where 8 people ran to the infusion spot (i needed my cusrses sacr infused).
and two quit [seer voice] because [/seer voice] they just wanted to get infused and 2 quit because the first two quit. and 4 stayed 2 rangers and a... monk... well actually it was an E/Mo loaded up with healing spells.
in all fairness i have to hand it to this guy. insistant that we fight to the seer (even tho the group was blatently running) and actually did heal pretty well. oh and me of course the n/mo anyway we took out the mursatt ele from the outside of the enclave then crept in... well i consume corpsed in (que: complaining healers). and we took out markis the rangers lured him out perfectly. we slowly leached away at him over the top of his constant trolls and barrages. but after he had died one of the jades poped out and doing the unthinkable...
i tanked the jade for about 20 seconds so as to enable the rangers to cap the barrage. he had a hammer and i had some prot nothing fancy but the ele/mo didnt make a peep if he felt i was being irrisponcible and my health didng go below 70% my energy went down a bit.
once it was all clear i backed off and the jade just floated about a bit and died.
then one at a time we freed the rest of the jades killed them to complete the mission.
having played the game as lots of different charicters its not about that one moron like the original post said just hope they leave you can and will do better without them.
as for the two morons in this case i pmed them turns out they wherent morons but i think them calling it "infusion quest" confused the issue.
as we where looking for inffusion + mission, simple missunderstanding i think...
there is a sliding scale of moron the types you describe here i meet all the time i think everyone does. sometimes its a bit of ignorance about the game and people will learn sometimes people are just jerks. i will hold my hand up if i made a mistake and i often do.
ive got plenty more to say on the subject but time is short
umm
12/6/05 - 08:33
today ive been playing as trinkin again
well i got another skill point today this takes me up to 75 with 75 spent.
i went for the last of the bond skills for protection prayers.
did some missions with the guild back in magumma and tried my prot bond for running.
it was intereting as i wasnt using my energy pool for anything else it was a bit like using the energy as an extra sheild.
i used a focus and wand and my scar pattersn to boost my energy to 69.
i know if i get those energy items from the desert that give me +15 energy i can have a higher mana pool i think around 72-74.
if i walk like this i take 4 energy off for each hit and loose 5% health.
i put mending on then prot bond and was considering holy veil on top of that for all the strip enchantments that come my way.
theory being they have to shatter there way through 3 enchantments before i have nothing and a hex would be removed on the first one.
but with the focus and the wand taking two energy each i cant have more than two enchantments.
or if i do i would have to continually stop to boost my energy with ofering of blood.
well without mending i could just breeze myself once in a while or use orison of healing.
or seeing as im not actually trying to kill anything heal area.
well im looking at thease skills and trying things out im sure i will find the answers to questions ive not yet asked.
how it would effect a minion master build as an enchantment im yet to find out but life attunement (the skill i got today) seems like it may help with me not actually using my staff i have to find the defenition of "combat" used in the description.
as its the minions and spells that will be doing dmg perhaps they will be reduced in effectivness.
i still havent tried the denravi quest i wanted to do the soul furnace stuff before i went on to doing it.
oh wow what a thing to start off
12/5/05 - 11:01
well i suppose this is news but i joined the game amp guild from posting on the forum. Ive been in 4 guilds to memory.
the first one was a bit of a let down as they where more of a pvp guild but offered no support to me and didn't as such speak to me.
from what i know now about the different classes from playing most of them as primarys and as secondary I'm glad i left they where not for me.
i later found i was being pestered all the time to join peoples guild so formed my own in efforts to stop people asking it worked for a while until a friend of mine i met way back in pre with my first character.
told me they had a very small guild of one person as well.
and eventually i joined that as did his a few other people but as far as i know only one person stayed preferring the bright lights of oh to the wandering the map completing quests and trying new builds.
well thats would have been that but i met another guy gnuz back when i was in my first guild and he had formed a guild.
he is a very dedicated player and we chatted about strats and builds as well as general fighting techniques.
i have to say i learned allot from this guy. while standing at the top of wizards tower over the corpse of galrath i get a msg from him saying that he is recruiting and would like me to consider his guild.
an honor i guested for a while and decided it was the guild for me. missions and quests every day combinations and strategys i could see it leading to pvp my worst fear that i would enter the ring of combat. once again be mocked and ridiculed by a cruel 14 yo with a talent for using numbers and symbols where letters once where.
but all this wan't what made me leave it was a yearning for the simple life in a small guild with people who i still went on missions with and ran with for fun. oh there was fun in the big guild but not the same. hard to explain anyway i went back and joined up with method to madness.
and we bought a guild hall because people all seemed to want a guild hall and team speak and so on.
we sat in the guild hall for about an hour had a nice chat thats what they are to me a place to meet up should the local chat get a bit much for filters.
edit change this cause it was too long
and put in a nice little picture of all the elites that trinkini has got so far.
i plan to add to it as this is only the ones for necro monk and ive got elites for all the secondarys.
and i think a good place to hide this would be just here
ok i wish they would un-nerf aoe. lets make one thing clear tho its not so that the game would be better to play it wouldnt. it would just stop this sort of thread from popping up every week. each week i see some one complain about ss being left out of the aoe nerf. its clearly upset many and now people can see that necros arent useless and never have been few if any gave us the chance to proove our worth in battle. you can spot the smart players try and get one from every profession in their group. mesmers face the same bias i think you would have found fewer necros in august than you will now. is it the new warrior monk? well time will tell if it goes some way to showing you that you have more than just metior shower and archane echo/echo in your skills collection then great im sure many of you only bothered to pick those up and power levaled your way to uw nothing dissapoints me more than thinking that for months i tryed combination after combination of skill set tyring to help teams trying to do damage trying to make the game fun for others apart from myself and trying different professions to understand and empathise with other players. kicked out of groups to make room for that all important third monk or third warrior. damn straight im bitter necro was the second harderst class to go through the game with untill they nerfed the noobs. you see a blob of ecto and you turn on isnt it unfair tap, well its enogh to put me off playing.
if it wasnt for the sencible comments about how this isnt so much a nerf as a balancing action. look at the damage an ele still does in those split seconds before the monsters run away. look at the affect hitting a monster in the back does. think for once. i read every single one of my skills over and over trying to find a different strat that would get me accepted. went out and did the path for all my secondarys too. got them skills pugs saw the big n and wouldnt have any of it you know how i completed the missions in the hells after trying every necro combination i went ele not because i thaught of it as being the best way to help the team but because few of the teams comprised of forward thinking people who would actually work with the other players. did most of the game with hench then went back time and time again to help people out try and learn as much about all the other classes as i could.
yeah nerf spitefull spirit necros have had it too good for too long whats it been a month now and your crying out for blood. this is the second thread ive read about why dont they nerf ss. well i wish they would i want to go back to not being picked because im not considered leet by groups who cant team play and dont understand the benefits of skills that dont inspire the words "max" or "nuke" or "uber" they give 8 skill slots and all people talk about is one skill
poison arrows, sprint, dodge, all the stances, ele slow down spells, healing breeze, mending, rebirth, res signet, cyclone axe 100 blades, mist form, mes degens, mes energy drains, bones, spitefull spirit, well of blood/power, bip, soj, iway and every skill and spell out there yes nerf them all muhwahahaha.
spitefull spirit has not been changed as other aoe and adgacen skills have been and for the first time in the game it gives necros something which for probably the history of the game they have not had, the envy of other players. how many times have i heard someone say that necros are good for nothing.
how many groups have i been left out of or kicked out of before they set off? sure look around you why did they nerf me why didnt they nerf them well heres news they didnt nerf anyone they kepts the skills at the same damage levals. they made the enemy more inteligent. sure they could have gone further spitefull spirit was underused necros. where mostly going death and blood. i saw countless necros that in vain tryed changing there builds to encompass allmost all of there secondary in order to apease the teams they where desperate to join. left out in the cold by so many ognorant people. well its the same people that are looking for a scape goat for this supposed nerf well they made the enemy smarter there is your nerf something that runs away when hurt. if you where all so brilient then how come running away stumps you? im shocked an appauled by this spate of
this cant be a post i will put it where no one wil read it man im so annoyed by this lets nerf necro rubbish. sure go ahead but its not because "the skills deserved to be nerfed" its because "theres got nerfed" GRRRRR no skills got nerfed. im gonna type it ten more times to let this anger out all the hard work all the time 12 hour days playing solid gw wtf man i feel so betrayed maybee im wrong allot maybee this is how im supposed to let my agrivaiton out maybee this is unhealthy. its certainly not a ballanced veiw and its not going to help anyone out so its something personal and thats why i will hide it away where few if any will read it and those that do might dissagree well its a point of veiw im keeping selfishly to myself.
