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Supervillain Archetypes and the Women Who Love Them

Okay, so, since I haven't seen a topic for it yet, I thought it'd be nice to shed some light on the villain archs because inquiring minds want to know.

Lemme break it on down. The following archs and info are straight out of Statesman's mouth:

The Brute
"The Brute is the melee monster," says Emmert, referring to the reverse tanker. "His attacks are devastating, but as a consequence, he attracts the attention of the toughest foes. In game terms, we expect him to [lock down] bosses and archvillains. [He also] has an inherent rage ability, so the longer the battle goes on, the greater the damage he does."

The Stalker
"The Stalker can be [even more] devastating than the brute. But instead of raw power, he relies on stealth to accomplish his evil deeds. A stalker will sneak his way into a group of foes and unleash a deadly alpha strike. He also has abilities that [allow him to] escape the attention of his enemies."

The Dominator
"The Dominator freezes enemies in their tracks. [This archetype] is all about subjugating the will of those around him. He possesses the ability to mesmerize and immobilize, which is absolutely invaluable in locking down the numerous minions that might otherwise swarm his teammates."

The Destroyer
"The Destroyer is a living dynamo. He has mastered the elements [and is] probably the most versatile of the villain archetypes, [with] ranged, buff, and debuff abilities." Emmert remarks. He goes on to explain that The Destroyer is "the only real 'healing' archetype among villains."

The Mastermind
"The Mastermind is the 'leader' archetype," says Emmert. "Each power set summons a different sort of lackey, like thugs, ninjas, soldiers, and robots. The Mastermind can upgrade his troops, buff them, or equip them with some new superweapons. He uses his followers to protect the support archetypes."

And there you have it, folks.

07/29/05 11:19

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Interesting. Destroyers almost look like blasters with the defender secondaries.

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07/29/05 12:14

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WOHOO!!!! oh yeah baby.

Masterminds are pet class!!!

Been wanting one of dem.

So when is COV out again?

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TY for posting the info bro.

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07/29/05 12:36

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City of Villains is due out in October.

Expect a Halloween release!

07/29/05 12:37

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Does anyone know when they are going to release information on the actual powers for the archetypes?
I would like to know.

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08/01/05 14:57

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Oh Oh Oh I want a dominatrix .... Whoops mean dominator damn what was I thinking about.

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08/01/05 15:13

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The Brute Sounds Kind of like a scrapper only better, nerf attack and defense

The Stalker
Sounds like a blaster with stealth and nova, will need to nerf stealth

The Dominator
Sounds like a controller, note: dont forget to nerf holds

The Destroyer
Sounds like a defender, nerf buffs debuffs needed to balance gamplay

The Mastermind
Kind of like a controller with pets nerfing number of pets

And there you have it, folks.

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08/03/05 13:43

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Doc are you a "glass is half empty" kind of guy?

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08/03/05 14:17

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Doc are you a \"glass is half empty\" kind of guy?

He sounds like a realistic type to me. :) By the by, thanks for posting the info, Anthem.

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08/03/05 15:53

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Lol I think he is more of a "the glass is there so what" kind of guy.

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08/03/05 16:46

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City of Villains is due out in October.

Expect a Halloween release!

EB Games has 11/9/05 listed on their website, although I've not seen anything official yet...Halloween works for me though, that would be an Awesome Trick or Treat Event...

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08/03/05 16:53

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I have one word for Doc and Mal...

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08/03/05 18:34

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Re: Supervillain Archetypes and the Women Who Love Them

To state the obvious the name domintor sounds like the name controller and of course a villain wouldnt defend they would destroy.

Doc

08/18/05 07:05

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According to Statesman and the dev team, the Villain archetypes, with the exclusion of mastermind, are meant to be exact opposites of their hero archetype counterparts.

08/18/05 07:07

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I'm a bit confused about what's what but I'll figure it out. I bet we'll be seeing a lot of masterminds out there.

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08/18/05 07:24

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Then I wonder if the brute is a tank, a scrapper? Or could it be a mix, or maybe some powersets have more attack and some have more defense. Guess we'll know "soon".

Doc

Oh and i wonder how long before the leaks start.

there is already "I got my friend to start playining a month after me and he got an invite and I didn't" posts

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08/18/05 08:37

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Personally, I'm avoiding the main forums for the next few months as if they were infected with the Plague from The Stand. So I'll stick to here. Anytime there's a new issue release, the main forums become deluged with doomsayers and hatemongers...with the new issue AND the CoV beta on the rise, it's going to be THAT much worse. So, I'll stick to the GameAmp Happy Land. :)

08/18/05 13:29

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City of Villains is due out in October.

Expect a Halloween release!

This is the 2nd person to post an October release, where do you guys get this intel?

I really expect release of game to be somewhere before Xmas. For couple of reason:

1) They need time to beta test: Strain test servers, find every single bug, test all little aspects from powers to npcs to whatever. I would say they need at minmal 3 months beta testing before goes live. So 3 months and beta hasnt started yet....Sept, Oct, Nov....starts in Dec....Hey dont get me wrong, I would love an Oct start but I really doubt it. Lets hope I am wrong and all bugs are resolved by then to play but I rather wait for the best game possible than early release that turns out craptacular!

2) Pefect Holiday gift. I know technically Oct could be xmas gift and such but if they release it too early no one will buy it for xmas intent.

3) Make sure they are ready for influx of everything...prepare CoV forums and website (has to be a setup like CoH). There are people taht will forever stop CoH just for CoV. Why should they keep going to CoH boards for CoV when techinically its a stand alone game.

Back on point of AT: I am such a Stalker but the Mastermind intrigues me. I do like to command others to do my bidding. Sounds like an Alt-Fest 2005 to me! But if I had to pick now, Stalker...reminds me of my Rogue on WoW (Yes I said WoW, SHUTTY!)

08/18/05 14:09

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"Intel" now states that we can expect the finished copy between Halloween and November 10th.

08/18/05 14:36

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This is the 2nd person to post an October release, where do you guys get this intel?

When I check on the status of my order with GameStop it lists an ETA of 10/31/05.

08/18/05 14:52

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Am I the only one who thinks that CoV will be pretty farking lame if all they do is make Villian AT's that are the opposite of Hero AT's? I mean, aren't you just then playing the exact same game with a different story? You'd think they could include some new mixing of roles.

08/18/05 15:04

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I have heard (from E3 interviews) that its not going to be the same humdrum contact, mission, contact, missions but the missions will be a little more differ like sabotage this or do that. Not clear the building of all good guys. And I think the AT's are a bit different. Yeah Brute seems to be the tanker but Mastermind and controlling minions, I dont think that sounds like pets but rather a Cult leader. Stalker seems like melee but to unless an alpha after sneaking in sounds like a rogue which is no where in CoH. Sure you can invis and then unleah alpha but thats not the main build of the hero, more a tactic.

All the dates I have seen for CoV, show Dec XX, 2005. I cant seem them running Beta in less than 2 months and fixing all bugs. Sure they have learned from I2 and the debacle that created but this is a whole game not a patch onto a whole game. There needs to be alot of testing. I hope for a clean game and to be release sooner than later but I still put my chips on Dec!

Added to that if they run Beta similar to Auto Assualt (ncsoft) then gaming will be open only certain hours, on certain days (w/ special times thrown in). Plus all the invites they need to unleash. I expect the contest winners to get their invites later in Sept or early Oct. I wouldnt think they would allow them to only beta test a short time.

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08/18/05 15:19

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I say they open all archtypes to either side so you can have a hero or villain with any power set. heck with this must be bad/good when using this "AT".

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08/18/05 15:19

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I say they open all archtypes to either side so you can have a hero or villain with any power set. heck with this must be bad/good when using this \"AT\".

No, bad idea. I dont want a Mastermind-like hero; I want the games to be different from each other rather than anyone Joe can have a hero stalker or a villain controller (if we say in the sense of AT termnology).

This also helps keep the ratio of heroes and villains closer. If both sides an the ability to be any AT you could get an overwhelming landslide of specific characters. Leaving the otehr faction weak or empty!

08/18/05 15:24

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I know there was speculation about crossing over. I wonder IF they do that (there was a trial ir something metioned) you keep you powers or you are transformed, course that is IF, but i think i saw an official mention of it at some pint.

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08/18/05 16:05

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The only switching I have heard was the possibility of heroes goin bad or vice versa. I then suppose that they would have to have power options for both but I think States or Lord said it was way down the road but I rather see that if you want switch; no matter level; you should have to restart at level 1 for what ever side you go to and then choose new powers.

08/18/05 16:19

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For whoever was worried about the AT being the same...they won't be I don't believe.

Brute seems like a tanker who trades some defense for some dmg.

Stalker is your basic *BLEEP* where did he come from? (hero dies).

Dominator....I'm not sure exactly how they gonna mix it up from the controller..this should be interesting to see.

Destroyer...blaster with healing capabilities they said...but what other capabilities are in that secondart. I very much doubt it will be empathy.

Mastermind...nothing like it I can safely say. Think pets on a more massive and creative scale.

OH and btw from my Dark Age of Camelot experience I can safely say that you can take one class...and twist it to do its job in a variety of interesting and different playing ways....as well as make good hybrids.

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08/18/05 16:43

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City of Villains is due out in October.

Expect a Halloween release!

The Gamestop guy had the release date as October 32nd on his computer. I asked him if that was some sort mutant leap year, but he reassured me that that means Oct. 31. Unless it changes of course :)

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