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A commentary on DJBuddha's show this weekend

I just wanted to make a comment on what I heard this weekend during DJBuddha's show.

His wife has this application on her computer which she calls "the buttler" which is a voice synthesizer that translates written text into spoken sound (for lack of a better description).

During the show, DJBuddha and hiw wife (I guess it was his wife) went on a 45 minute spree of making the voice synthesizer say commical things on the air.

During this 45 minutes the voicebox was configured to sound like the voice system which Stephen Hawking uses (Stephen Hawking is a Lucasian Professor of Mathematics who suffers from Lou Gehrig's disease). And in fact the comment was made on the air "hey this sounds just like Stephen Hawking".

As soon as they realised that, rather than reconfigure the voice synthesizer to sound like something else, the couple proceeded to spend upwards of 30 minutes messing around with that stupid application (sounding all the time like Stephen Hawking) on the air for all of us to listen to.

That is not what I call funny. In fact it's was pure bad taste.

First, imitating individuals with disabilities is not funny. It's jevenile. Plain at simple. If a DJ were to go on the air and start doing imitations of the way Helen Keller spoke I'm sure a good portion of the audience would find that to be in bad taste. Well the same holds true Stephen Hawking in my opinion.

So here is my suggestion:

DJBuddha, and friend, next time you decide to play around with that voice synthesizer, there are a lot of other voices you could imitate, for instance:
Alvin and the chipmunks
Big Bird
Cartman
the robot from the Mr Roboto song
the robot from "All your base are belong to us"

All of those and others are perfectly acceptable, and I'll ask you please to refrain from imitating Stephen Hawking in the future.

Thank you.

07/26/04 08:11

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uhhhh. why is the post blank?

07/26/04 08:12

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Got an error when I posted it. I'll post again in a sec.

07/26/04 08:13

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Let's try that again.

During DJBuddha's weekend show, he and his wife (I'm told it was his wife) started playing around with a voice synthesizer application which takes written text and converts it into speech.

While they were joking around with this application on the air, they configured it to sound just like the voice system which Stephen Hawking uses (Stephen Hawking is Lucasian Professor of Mathematics who suffers from Lou Gehrig's disease). The comment was even made on the air "hey this sounds like Stephen Hawking", so the both of them knew full well what they were doing.

I didn't find this funny at all. In fact, I found it to be in very bad taste and rather irresponsible, and so did other listeners who were grouped with me in game during the time and listening to the show with me.

It seems to me that if DJBuddha had come on the air, and started making Helen Keller jokes or imitating the way she spoke, many listeners would have found that to be in very bad taste, and so I don't think it is not any big stretch to apply the same rules of etiquette to Stephen Hawking.

It also seems to me that if you're an internet radio station trying to make a name for yourself and be taken seriously, the last thing you want is new listeners connecting to hear upwards of 30 minutes of this stuff. It wasn't even funny. Listening to the show felt like being trapped on a public bus listening to a couple of loud kids make fart noises/jokes.

Here is what suggest:

In the future if you're going to use that voice synthesizer on the air to make humorous comments (rather than waste time actually playing music - God forbid) then here are some voices you could try to imitate which I'm sure would not be offensive to anyone: Big Bird, Cartman, Alvin and the Chipmonks, the robot from "All your base are belong to us", the robot from Mr Roboto. There are many voices out there you can configure the voice synthesizer to sound like and not offend anyone. It would also help if you actually had something funny to say.

In the future please refrain from imitating Stephen Hawking, or any other famous individuals with disabilities or speech impediments because you just never know who your audience is.

07/26/04 08:36

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[QUOTE] Listening to the show felt like being trapped on a public bus listening to a couple of loud kids make fart noises/jokes.
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heres a crazy idea. so crazy that it's way out there. how bout changing the channel and listening to something else. i know its a farfetch'd idea but it just might work. just tune into something else.

and another thing. let me get this straight. its ok for comedians to make fun of everything in the world such as serious topics like racism and abortion and stuff and to immate anyone they want but its not okay for these guys to make a few voice jokes. well guess what, while you and your buddies didnt find it funny, the rest of us did. just like with comedians, they make a lot of people laugh and offend a bunch of others. but ya know what, they still do it, people still watch them and listen to them, and those comedians are still endorsed by coke cola. i don't know his name, but there was a comedian that all he did was yell and scream and swear and the only bit i can remember was him saying..."hello! its a #*%&@&% desert". i never found him funny at all. but millions of other people did. so when they start talking or saying jokes that YOU don't like. then go listen to something else or just hit stop and wait and then try to squeeze into the 100's of other people that are trying to connect to the maxed out server. those people stayed cause they knew it was all in good fun. and they enjoy the show regardless. unlike some people.

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07/26/04 10:47

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Dude, calm down, take some ritilin, or prozac, or whatever, and simmer. Granted I wasnt there to listen to this, but I have heard worse. There was a guy on the ONLY rock radio station in our area, 106.9 WCCC, who activly participated in and promoted on air, Monkey fights, which entails two monkeys in a ring type apperatis, with one arm tied to the other's, and on the other arm is tied a knife. SO whatever Bhudda did could not have been THAT bad. And how bout the time Howard Stern gave a woman a.... *CENSORED* errr... really good feeling in an area that PG13 cant mention.... ON AIR. I mean come on, radio personalities do stupid things sometimes. AND there are alot worse things that he could have done.... He didnt blatently make fun of Prof. Hawking did he, like have the computer say "I'm a Re****" I wont complete that sentence but you get it... I am honestly asking did he? And if not, Why are you complaining.

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07/26/04 10:55

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Re: A commentary on DJBuddha's show this weekend

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And wouldnt you think Stephen Hawking is enlightened and brilliant enough to find the humour in that?? I do

someone in IRC brought up the fact Mr Hawking has made appearences on Simpsons,Family Guy and Futurama....they didnt get sued, so Im pretty sure he didnt mind

so either turn the dial or relax and dont try and fight a righteous crusade when there isnt one

have a nice day
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07/26/04 11:15

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he was also on conan o brian. him and jim carey made a little running joke through the show remember. was hilarious. he loves jim's movies.

07/26/04 11:33

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As someone who works near people with disabilities, I'd like to say that the worst thing you can do to them is pity them, you'd be amazed at the humor they have about themselves...I mean, if you've got it, might as well make the best of it.I'm not saying that activly attacking anyone, in a hurtful way, be it someone disabled, white, colored, large, male, or blonde is acceptable, but remeber folks... HUMOR is a good thing, laughing keeps ya young. Honestly... I don't think what Buddah and RW said on air was meant to be hurtful to anyone.

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07/26/04 13:27

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*hands Meow 2 cents*

I agree. Nothing was meant as any sort of disrespect. Infact, Steven Hawking himself has appeared in several parodies of himself on the Simpsons, or Futurama.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0370071/

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07/26/04 14:01

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and remember that one episode in saved by the bell. remember zack was dating this girl in a wheelchair and he kept pointing out the fact that she was in a wheel chair. she hated that so much and just wanted him to treat her like a normal person. or what about that special they had on gilda radner. remember how they talked about how when she went to that support group or something for her cancer, she made them laugh about it. and cancer is a serious thing. but she didn't let that destroy her. she made jokes about it and made people laugh at it.

07/26/04 14:16

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The guy is a certified genius with a great sense of humor. Just because he's mute doesn't mean we have to tiptoe around him. He has the voice of a robot, and that stuff is hilarious.

http://www.mchawking.com/ <-- check it ;)

07/26/04 14:17

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Yeh I have some MCHawking mp3s and I wish they were PG13 because they are hilarious!

I wasnt sure if they were really him or not.

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07/26/04 14:32

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Well said everyone =).

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07/26/04 14:34

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[color=orange]As someone who works near people with disabilities, I'd like to say that the worst thing you can do to them is pity them, you'd be amazed at the humor they have about themselves...color]

As someone else that works with the Mentally and Physically challenged, I have to agree with you MeowMix. Pity is about the worst thing you can do to someone, hell anyone for that matter, because sooner or later, as was mentioned above with the Saved By the Bell referance, people begin to dispise it. I mean I am a very large man, 350+lbs, and you know what truly gets under my skin? People that assume that they have to do stuff for me, or that I cant do something, or that think I am lazy because of my girth. Well guess what... I'm not lazy, and Stephen Hawking is a great man, who would see whatever humor they were trying to bring to bear. Sorry about the tangent here people, but I am a seriously opinionated person on cirten subjects, and reading Meow's post made me see that one of my passions, people's wish for normallcy, was at issue.

07/26/04 14:56

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No Problem Dio.

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07/26/04 15:13

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Let me respond with a few points of my own here.

1. Not everyone is aware of who Stephen Hawking is, including Radiowave herself, therefore the adjustment was not intentionally set to sound and/or make fun of him.

2. The DJ's here are free to run their show how they see fit considering they are not paid to entertain anyone. This especially applies to Buddha and Radiowave because this is THEIR station. Some prefer to do more of a talk show, some prefer to play more music.

3. If you don't like what you're listening to, feel free to check out some of the other radio stations out there.

4. Your opinion is always welcomed and we don't expect you to love everything that is aired here, but don't accuse us of trying to be malicious because that is not what we do here. Everything is done with a sense of humor. If you don't particularly find it funny, that's your right, but don't complain if others do.

07/26/04 16:37

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*pulls out her flame thrower.. looks at the post.. turns off the flame thrower and puts it away*

Definitly not worth the effort

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07/26/04 16:38

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NO NO NO NO NO LIGHT IT UP!

Soooo the totally not meant to hurt anyone poke at Steven Hawking (Yes I do know who he is thank you, I've actually read a few of his papers and books...) but the part where I popped in the line "Spank Me" didn't???

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07/26/04 16:44

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"While they were joking around with this application on the air, they configured it to sound just like the voice system which Stephen Hawking uses (Stephen Hawking is Lucasian Professor of Mathematics who suffers from Lou Gehrig's disease). The comment was even made on the air "hey this sounds like Stephen Hawking", so the both of them knew full well what they were doing."

Actually the Stephen Hawking reference was made in the IRC channel, and I mentioned it on the air as a sidenote considering I don't know who he is. The configuration of the voices had nothing to do with Stephen (sp?) Hawking, it had to do with it being one of the settings on the program. I likened it to the computer voice in the movie "Wargames".
Whether or not that was Stephen Hawking, I meant no disrespect to anyone. Be that as it may, I resent the implication that we are callous people that get a kick out of picking on people with disabilities. Not to mention, maybe my mother is disabled... maybe I am in some way. I guess what it boils down to in my mind is this. No harm or offense was meant in any way by my comments, and if they were perceived in that manner I humbly apologize. However on that same note, you may want to consider getting your ass off the horse you are on... it seems a bit high.

If you would like to make a suggestion as far as the content of my programming is concerned, it would be much appreciated if you didn't do it from the cheap seats.

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07/26/04 16:50

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Well, Kisama, I have this feeling you've never known a disabled person in all your life, hell, probably never met one. Before you start trying to decide what they want to hear when you have never even known one, think about it.

Anyways, did anyone see that Robin Williams special on HBO? There was a Stephen Hawkings joke in it and no one took offense to it.

Stop trying to campaign for something that shouldn't be campaigned for. There's a difference between doing what's right and what's PC.

07/26/04 17:45

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My turn.

"This sounds like Stephen Hawking."

So what? It does. If that's how the man sounds, that's how he sounds.

I can read that sentence ten thousand times and not find anything RESEMBLING insult in there.

That sentence does NOT say "This sounds like Stephen Hawking, and that's funny because he's disabled."

I can imagine that the humour comes from sounding like a robot. Sounding like a robot is cool, and Stephen Hawking talks like a robot, and that's cool.

Let me break it down for you. It's NOT FUNNY because he's disabled, it's FUNNY because Buddha (or RW, I didn't hear) sounded like a robot. I don't know if you can understand the subtle differences in the humour there.

I have heard ten thousand people complain, argue, whine, and mope, because they heard something they didn't like on the radio, or because somebody said something stupid, or because somebody was doing something for ten minutes you didn't like. I'm going to tell this to everyone now, and it's an official statement.

Ready?

YOU ARE NOT BEING FORCED TO LISTEN TO THIS RADIO STATION.

There is nothing stopping you from listening to music you like, or turning it off, or going and listening to somebody else's radio. There is simply 0% way, there is NO way we can cater to everyone on this planet, NO way we can entertain everyone on this planet 100% at the time, and there are going to be times that something is happening you don't like. The "stop" function on Winamp is a sign, a message from the divine, that you HAVE A CHOICE. You are not being forced to listen to this radio station.

However. However!

Now I'm going to be on your side for a few sentences. You brought up an interesting point. You got the impression that RW and Buddha were poking fun at Stephen Hawking, and indeed, all disabled, in a negative manner and were offended. That's an admirable stance, and I'll admit that I got mad and offended and yelled at Cavalier for playing a song about a topic that I thought was in poor taste.

But, notice the difference in what I did there. I did NOT make a thread about it and let the whole world know. I went to Cavalier personally and told him my problems and he said "No problem, buddy. I won't play it again. Sorry if I offended." He apologized and was very nice about it.

You didn't have to make this public, and indeed, there's a very good chance that if you confronted Buddha and RW personally and let them know how you felt, not only would the apologize, they might also have apologized publically on the radio. Granted, they might do that now (if they feel that what they did warrants an apology, but don't take my word for it).

I think the way you handled this problem was in poor taste.

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07/27/04 08:45

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Please, let me further destroy your credibility.

I just realized this.

In your original post, you suggest to us that we should set the synthesizer to sound like Eric Cartman.

Have you ever watched South Park?

Please, allow me to quote some of Eric Cartman's classic lines, all of course, in good taste, and not offensive in any way.

"I would never let a woman kick my ***. If she tried something, I'd be like, HEY! You get your ***** *** back in the kitchen and make me some pie!"

"Too bad drinking scotch isn't a paying job or Kenny's dad would be a millionare!"

"Well, Kyle, I appreciate you being so open with me about this, but as we know, you have a warped perception of reality because you're Jewish."

Do I really need to go on?

You lose. Go home.

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07/27/04 08:58

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/em nods to Dangerguy.

Let's not forget that Cartman is a "fat kid," and they make fun of it all the time on the show. I find the poster's comments about Cartman to be discriminatory to overweight children, everywhere. How could you be so unfeeling, Kisama?! Please refrain from publicly posting your biases.

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07/27/04 09:52

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I had a monkey one time. His name was "Mr. Chuckles". (There's a long story behind the name, but that's another post)

Anyway, Mr. Chuckles was a cool pet, but he had an annoying habit of ramming his finger up his butt, usually while we had company, and then jumping up and down and screeching to attract attention. (He was a white faced Capuchin, by the way, and could be hard to deal with on his best days.)

The part that bothered us about the entire thing was, after he did this, he ALWAYS (at least, I never saw him do one without the other following) stuck the finger in his mouth after he pulled it out.

Mr. Chuckles was smarter than the guy at the top of this thread, but obviously didn't have quite as much free time.

Trust the master; if we ever decide to offend someone, you WILL know it. I was listening for the entire show, as I was recording bits for the entire thing. The "Butler" feature that RW and Buddha were using on their IRC had a voice PRESET (quick definition for the "Mr. Chuckles" of the world: that means the voice was set up by the company that created the program, NOT a user, so I guess we need to send a pissy little email to the software company too, hmmmm?) that did, indeed, sound like the vocal synthesizer Dr. Hawking uses to communicate.

Did you know that Dr. Hawking makes jokes about the sound of his voice when he gives presentations? Judging from your post, I would guess not.

That, however, is beside the point. Buddha and RW used a pre-programmed voice setting on a program, and in no way "set up" a voice to mock Dr. Hawking. Of course, you knew that already, right, chuckles? Obviously you did. You seem to know EVERYTHING about this "situation", including how one of the most brilliant men on the planet would think in regards to the situation.

Me, I'm not presumptuous enough to dream for one second that I'm fit to polish the wheels on Dr. Hawking's chair, MUCH LESS speak for him. The man could think all of us together under the table, and then crack a joke about it.

Don't presume to defend your betters, son. They're quite capable of taking care of themselves.

(No monkeys were harmed in the making of this post, with the exception of Mr. Chuckles, who died from intestinal parasites. But hey, free will, y'know?)

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07/27/04 11:36

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Ok first of all...

This station rocks most of the time. Yes different DJ's play different styles of music....

I think everyone is missing the real point of Kisama's post. 30 mins of mindless voice syntazier (sp) chatter is annoying....

Play more music... lol.... and play with your new toys sparingly lol.

And not all humor is funny to all people..... some things offend different people and make other people laugh their heads off.... Please respec someone who thought he should post his feelings on the topic....

Play more Music...................................................................................................................

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07/27/04 12:57

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Wow, I'm amazed at how people build off each others flames until they have no relevence to the original post. I don't care who can have the craftiest, most original flame. I don't nead to read fictional stories about monkies just because some guy wants to link the poster to fecal matter. Please don't post unless you have something new to actually say.

Kisama brought up a point for discussion. He felt the radio station might want to take a new perspective, and made it public to see how everyone else felt. Well, now we know. Just becuase he had one opinion the majority disagreed with though, do you need to level 100% personal flames at a guy you likely don't even know? Some of the posts had no comment on the issue at stake, and were rather attacks on the person's charactor, which somehow you were able to divine from a couple paragraphs.

Civilty isn't too hard. "I disagree. I doubt Hawking would be offended if he knew. I liked the show, and would prefer if that brand of humor was continued."

07/27/04 13:34

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I'm sorry, but no.

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It seems to me that if DJBuddha had come on the air, and started making Helen Keller jokes or imitating the way she spoke, many listeners would have found that to be in very bad taste, and so I don't think it is not any big stretch to apply the same rules of etiquette to Stephen Hawking.

No jokes were made at Dr. Hawking's expense. Period. It was commented by someone in IRC that the voice did sound like Dr. Hawking, but that was IT. No jokes were made. I think it would be nice for someone to have the \"offending\" comments straight before bringing the complaints to a public forum, wouldn't you?

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In the future please refrain from imitating Stephen Hawking, or any other famous individuals with disabilities or speech impediments because you just never know who your audience is.

Hmmm. And we're supposed to do as YOU say WHY, exactly? At this point, the poster is guilty of doing exactly what they are accusing US of. How many folks at the staion have disabilities or speech impediments? Don't know? Then why are you potentially telling someone who has a specific condition or disibility that they can't joke about it?

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It also seems to me that if you're an internet radio station trying to make a name for yourself and be taken seriously, the last thing you want is new listeners connecting to hear upwards of 30 minutes of this stuff. It wasn't even funny.

Again, hmmm. The servers were at maximum capacity during this entire episode. That means, if anyone DID log off in disgust, there was someone waiting to take their place. I appreciate that you didn't find the content funny, and have no problem with that. However, I'm unfamiliar with ANY requirements that we spend our time trying to make sure that EVERYONE enjoys our station. We are what we are. We have reached the success that we have BECAUSE of who and what we are. You are NOT required to log in and listen; there are many others that are trying to log in at any given moment but can't. Please be courteous enough that, if you're disgusted with our station, and think that it is in poor taste or unfunny/unentertaining, please log off and free up the bandwidth for someone that wants to be here. (And please don't take that comment to be more harsh than it is meant; it's a simple fact of our operation. We wish you no ill will, and trust me when I say that you will NOT hurt our feelings if you choose to listen elsewhere. There are many others that DO want to listen to us.)

We enjoy what we do. We love the fact that you want to listen. However, we are NOT going to start changing the way we do things, or the content of our station. It's what's made us more popular than our servers can handle.

Finally...Deathypoo.....is THAT relevant enough for you to the original post? I can't make it any clearer.

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07/27/04 13:52

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Re: A commentary on DJBuddha's show this weekend

I don't know, I tend to enjoy Buddha and Radiowaves talk show hour more than just playing music, but I'm weird, what do I know. ;)

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07/27/04 14:08

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Re: A commentary on DJBuddha's show this weekend

Welcome to #whydonticryaboutit

The real point here is this.

WE pay to run this station. WE put in the time and the effort and the money and the work and the creativity. WE are the ones who do all of this. All YOU do is click a link or a "play" button, yet you think that you dictate the content we put out and are free to tell us what we can or can not say, and what is or what is not funny.

You don't pay US.

This is really OUR labour of love right now, and the only people imposing censorship and limits on our content is US.

If we wanted to air four days of Ron Popeil advertising his mini spit roaster for whatever reason on a continuous loop, that's OUR business. We're not actually required to do ANYTHING for you people. By that same token, you're under no obligation to find what we do amusing or funny.

We play music you request because that is what we like to do. We hire more and more people to help us put out awesome content because we want it to be heard. We set limits and censorships on our own station because we want it to be family oriented and clean and something everything can enjoy.

However, none of that is actually necessary, and seeing as RW and Buddha own the station, for all they care, they could start cursing up a storm and offending anyone and everyone they could think of, and the stream would not cut out. Nobody is telling them what to do, because they own the station.

In short, RadioWave and Buddha can do anything they want on this station and get away with it, and if they want to play with their voice synthesizer with a half hour over the radio, that's their business.

Take it to Livejournal.

***THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED***

~ Danger Guy

07/27/04 14:18

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