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BigDawg
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WTF is up with the Accuracy and kill dammage with the sniper rifle??? Im hitting guys or atleast I think I am hitting guys as close as 100meeters and they are not freakin dying. Does anyone know if the game allows for compensation or having to lead targets....I cant tell if it does or not. I have tried hitting guys at not that far of distances on the run in multiple diff ways. I have put the hairs right on them with no luck I have lead them by a little bit with no luck and I have lead them alot with no luck....I dont know how you are supposed to get any damn kills with that rifle. Yet I see people do it alllll the god damn time.
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| 08/13/05 10:25 |
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degenerate
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Ok thing is man is that this game isnt like CS, you cant get a instant kill. its all about geting your aim pin-point.
most of the time the sniper is really good, but when a taget is to far, it becomes a kill for the pro'z, most of the time it will take 2 shots with the stock rifle just because of body armor. If you dont think you are hiting them chances are your not. u have to think about re-coil and lead the target about half a click infront of him, speed is a factor in snipering and you will get to lern about that l8ter in the game.
Best thing to do, is try useing SPEC OPPs. If you want to get into snipering, since they have to stay silent and not be spoted, it will make for good training as a sniper.
The other factor of snipering is not to take your time, as a sniper you must be constantly on the move, and never take more then 3 sec to take down a taget, never say to yourself "wait.....wait.....wait" for the perfect shot. Take him when u have him, coz chances are if u hit him and it isnt the perfect shot it terned outto be, he will instantly duck for cover leaving you with 1 less bullet and 1 enermy still standing. You gota be fast! and your aim needs to always be at there chest!!! never there head, since the sniper has some kick ass re-coil the best way to get a kill if from the chest. there head is to smaller target to aim for and thats BAD! more time to aim = more time for some one to kill you, spot you, or give away your pos. To aim for there chest can give them a head shot, or just give them killer bullet that dose about 80% life dammage. if u do have time to burn then aim for the head but chance is, is that you wont kill them. As I said, fast!
thats about all I can say.
Or at least thats what I think =D
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| 08/13/05 10:39 |
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thegathering
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The accuracy of most of the bf2 rifles are very very good. Keep in mind, snipers have to have very very very low pings and should only play in low ping servers. I figure that is your #1 problem, dont join a server with a ping over 125 and keep the servers at 32 players and below, if in the right conditions, shots are near instantaneous at near 200 meters and no lead is needed.
Take EVERY shot full prone, you should know that. Aim for the chest if the target is moving or standing. Aim for the head if the target is in a stationary turret or prone. Shoot at the high back if the target is facing or opposite you so that the bullet has a low enough trajectory to headshot.
Most definitely take your time. Waiting 7-9 seconds is not uncommon for a good shot. Wait for the target to change direction, not to stop, if he stops, more power to you.
I disagree with the movement aspect stated previously. It is better to hold the high ground, stay aprox 100-150m away, and get a 10+/1 k/d than get 3 kills before being spotted and shot. A good sniper knows how to find cover by sitting back in forest like areas and in the corners and niches of buildings. Move to close to the edge ONLY to fire, you should have already picked out a target and have ammo in your clip.
ALWAYS spot your target before firing, at a minimum, if you get arty'ed, your team has an idea of the location of your enemy.
Take the long way around the map, dont try to dive into the heart of the map to get to a position. You dont have a weapon fast enough to defend yourself in a head on confrontation, at best, you have to fire a round into your target before they notice you and use ur pistol to finish them off.
If you shoot a target and they run away, dont assume you missed, just wait, 90% of the time they will come back to try to find you to get revenge, that's when you make the kill shot.
If you aim for the chest, at least you will get a damage assist if not a kill.
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| 08/16/05 12:52 |
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degenerate
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| QUOTE | Most definitely take your time. Waiting 7-9 seconds is not uncommon for a good shot. Wait for the target to change direction, not to stop, if he stops, more power to you.
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So you think its better to take your time with a shot?! WTF MAN! your ment to get better by taking 6 sec MAX to take out a target......this isnt a camping game, snipers must always be on the move, unless u wana spend 7-9sec. trying to make a shot with 1 target! that after about 1 shot will sprint for cover, take him first chance u get, dont wait for the "PERFECT SHOT!" coz that will never happen and he could just sprint off and dart behind cover befor you even get a shot poped off.
But if thats your way of sniping I have no problem with that, but siriosly if u are gona spend 7-9 sec lining up and taking 1 shot then man you should think about timing yourself and working on geting less time to take a shot.
You have to be fast when you sniper, you are one of the most hated targets in the game since a Pro sniper can take out like 10 targets in under 25sec. 35 for more then 1 shot. You MUST always be on the move and far away from the action, unless u wana go in like RAMBO and take pot shots.
If you wana get better it takes time, use the bots in single player as your advantage by puting them on easy then seeing how many u can kill in 1 min, then amp up the hardness and try again.
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"thegathering: dont take offence to that your snipering skill might be better then my'n I just think it best that you take less time to make the shot, cant spend so much time just to take out 1 guy =D
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| 08/17/05 05:00 |
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KB2Flyer
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[QUOTE]The accuracy of most of the bf2 rifles are very very good.
No, these weapons are not very, very accurate. As for stock game accuracy (key word...Stock), they suck and I concider myself a decent player. The first time I went sniping in BF2, I was shocked. What a joke, but then it's only a game.
As far as the other weapons, same thing. I've had guys right up on me and they won't go down until I've emptied a ton of rounds in him.
I guess if you want to play this game, you have to put up with this little problem and make sure you have plenty of ammo. at your disposal.
Mark
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| 08/17/05 11:15 |
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GoldWingGL
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I agree with Mark, they all suck donkey.
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| 08/17/05 12:22 |
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thegathering
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mark, you never mentioned what rifle you were using, not all sniper rifles are equal. The m24, at distances that it is physically able to snipe, it does not miss if you know how to shoot. The SVD on the other hand, utterly sucks for a long range shot and is more frequently used for rapid, consecutive mid range shots.
as for the other weapons, burst fire, click shoot, do NOT stream. If you have any skills shooting, these weapons are plenty accurate for any situation up to a 75m shot ironsite. That i believe is your main problem, the other BF games just used a zoomed in sight and more than likely, you dont know how to properly aim with the ironsights. I own an AR-15, so the m16 and m4 sights i have no problems with, the AK i can use as well, everything else is scoped.
Another tip, i prefer to use the single shot on ALL weapons. Do NOT expect to stream away at a target that isnt right next to you, it doesnt work in real life, it doesnt work in the game. Single shot and shoot as soon as you re-align with the target. Other war sims, other than AA, all have these super accurate rifles for streaming. When you fire full auto at even 50 yards your chances of hitting your target accurately are pretty slim.
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| 08/19/05 09:45 |
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KB2Flyer
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I use the M24, which I think sucks. I just got done doing some snipe work after reading what you said about it and it's not that great.
My main weapon is the SAW but lastnight I needed and used the M4 and found that at some distance, if you aim right at the head, they're down in one shot. Too bad it has to be that way. I also try not to shoot auto. Burst or single shot is what I try to use on select weapons.
I've also used the M-16A1 and M-16A2 and know how to shoot. If not, I'd get smacked on the helmet.LOL..So I know about "Real" military weapons. I also know that this is a game and realism is not going to be 100% correct.
Anyway, like I said on another post, I've played a lot of Blackhawk down and was used to it's weapon accuracy. I still like BF2 but if I had to do it over, I would rather of spent $50.00 on a part for my r/c helicopter.
Mark
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| 08/19/05 18:07 |
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Wiser
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These rifles are very accurate if your laying down and have a gap between your shots. if you aim single shots seperated by a second or two you drop people in two shots. Of course thats not at insane ranges but i think its pretty good.
i think most peoples accuracy problems are they fire to fast. let the sights settle. Same basic fundamentals as real life.
I'm pretty happy with the SAW but this is one weapon that could be more accurate(that i've noticed). I just finished carrying and shooting one for 7 months. I've been a sawgunner for over year and put thousands of rounds out there. If your laying down the SAW is amazingly accurate for the amount of rounds it puts out. In the game its a little shaky.
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| 08/24/05 21:26 |
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EvilGod
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Ok, first off.. i've never been on this site b4, and never write in forums... but when i saw degenerates posts it pissed me off...
degenerate, you have obviously not been in the army or seen any sniper docus whatsoever...
You say, always be on the move, never take more than 3 secs before you shoot.. its so wrong i could bust a clip in ur face. The key to sniping is patience!!! Hell, sometimes if i feel i don't get a clear shot i don't even fire my f***** rifle! Know why? That makes me reveal my position, and i waste a bullet! As in bf2, i watch my target and wait for him to stop for a sec, so i can do a easy headshot. If i see the target is on its way to get out of sight, but running in a straight line, i take the shot! (remember leading). And guys, fuck recoil unless u have the m95... The m24 works perfectly from 0-350m if ur familiar with the bulletdrop. If your at 100m, aim at the forehead, if ur 150m+, try aiming at the top of the head. If 200m+ about 1mm above the head, the bulletdrop aint that great. u'll figure... and one more thing.. if you have the chance, kill them while they are looking away, and do a 1shot 1 kill, cuz then they wont be able to see where u shot them from... = u dont have to relocate. But if they spot u, and u kill them, be prepared, they will come back after respawn hunt ur ass down, so relocate after the shot!
and degenerate... please dont whine about this shit and tell me im wrong, after 100 hours in the sniper kit and 3500 kills i think i know... :) peace
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| 08/26/05 11:57 |
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thegathering
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| QUOTE | | But if they spot u, and u kill them, be prepared, they will come back after respawn hunt ur ass down, so relocate after the shot! |
agreed, and i prefer to snipe with a friend, sniping in pairs drastically improves your chances of getting both kills and staying alive. You and your parter can both spot and snipe, leaving multiple targets vunerable even while you reload.
Try to angle yourselves so noone can sneak up behind you either, there are lots and lots of cowardly spec ops that would like to empty a clip into your back, instead of braving the infamous knife. These leaves both members open because, unlike a knife kill, they give you no chance for retaliation as equal players.
| QUOTE | | Hell, sometimes if i feel i don't get a clear shot i don't even fire my f***** rifle! |
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| 08/26/05 12:46 |
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EvilGod
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hmmz, hehe...
working in pairs can be great man, but it usually makes it 2 times as easy being spotted, if you'r not skilled enough.
If working in pairs i would recommend a "crossfire", because the target usually believe its only one sniper.
If you first fire from one side, the target will hide behind a barrier & most likely keep still, then its just for the other sniper to do a clean headshot.
The other advantage is that you can watch each others back & see if someone is coming behind u to knife ur ass... :)
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| 08/26/05 19:58 |
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degenerate
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............| QUOTE | | degenerate, you have obviously not been in the army or seen any sniper docus whatsoever... |
............yer ok..........Point being this is just a game but ok.......?
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| 08/27/05 02:32 |
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KB2Flyer
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| QUOTE | I use the M24, which I think sucks. I just got done doing some snipe work after reading what you said about it and it's not that great.
My main weapon is the SAW but lastnight I needed and used the M4 and found that at some distance, if you aim right at the head, they're down in one shot. Too bad it has to be that way. I also try not to shoot auto. Burst or single shot is what I try to use on select weapons.
I've also used the M-16A1 and M-16A2 and know how to shoot. If not, I'd get smacked on the helmet.LOL..So I know about \"Real\" military weapons. I also know that this is a game and realism is not going to be 100% correct.
Anyway, like I said on another post, I've played a lot of Blackhawk down and was used to it's weapon accuracy. I still like BF2 but if I had to do it over, I would rather of spent $50.00 on a part for my r/c helicopter.
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Degenerate is right and like I said. It's not worth getting ticked off (like I've done) because it is a game and these weapons will NEVER be like the real thing. Trust me, I know that for a fact.
I've also made a promise to myself not to bring up the fact that I'm in the military within these games. Too many people haven't a clue about the military and we shouldn't tell them the way it is unless they've experienced it.
I'm a pilot and also like flying online in MSFS 2004. It's not fair for me to expect people who don't fly to call their positions (downwind, base, crosswind, etc.) and other things that I know when they haven't a clue. I got called on that one night and it sunk in quick. It's all supposed to be for fun and entertainment.
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| 08/27/05 04:08 |
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