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I have resently decided that I am not going to play with my grav/kin controller any longer and have decided to play a scrapper. A Dark/Dark scrapper to be exact. I have designed a build and would like some feedback. I'm not sure about the slotting yet.
Archtype: Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool Set: Speed
Power Pool Set: Fitness
Power Pool Set: Flight
Power Pool Set: Fighting
Ancillery Pool Set: Darkness Mastery
Hero Profile
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Level 1: Smite
Level 1: Dark Embrace
Level 2: Shadow Maul
Level 4: Death Shroud
Level 6: Murky Cloud
Level 8: Hasten
Level 10: Obsidian Shield
Level 12: Hurdle
Level 14: Super Speed
Level 16: Dark Regeneration
Level 18: Dark Consumption
Level 20: Health
Level 22: Stamina
Level 24: Cloak of Darkness
Level 26: Soul Drain
Level 28: Boxing
Level 30: Tough
Level 32: Midnight Grasp
Level 35: Oppresive Gloom
Level 38: Soul Transfer
Level 41: Torrent
Level 44: Petrifying Gaze
Level 47: Tenebrous Tenticles
Level 49: Hover
I know the endurance is gonna suck until I have Stamina fully slotted but I'm willing to live with that.
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| 09/10/05 17:47 |
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Madclergy
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I just wanted to say that i like the build, but one thing struck my eye as I looked over it.
Level 49: Hover
?? Umm, was this like a throw away choice of (I have nothing better to spend the slot on) kind of thing??
Just a question.
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| 09/11/05 12:59 |
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Falzure
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Lol! It's full of late powers. I'd have gotten Health, Stamina, Tenebrious Tentacles and several others much earlier. Hurdle looks like a waste with that build, Murky Clound could have waited 2 or 4 levels and I personally don't like Super Speed. Hasten can wait until you can better handle the endurance crunch it creates. I usually get it at 22, after I have Stamina, but then I don't plan on getting Super Speed so for me it can wait.
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| 09/11/05 13:01 |
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RevsStriker
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| QUOTE | I just wanted to say that i like the build, but one thing struck my eye as I looked over it.
Level 49: Hover
?? Umm, was this like a throw away choice of (I have nothing better to spend the slot on) kind of thing??
Just a question. |
Ya it was and for those badges on the top of the statues.
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| 09/11/05 13:11 |
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shpadoinkle
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i would say that hurdle and hover are wastes. aslo cloak of darkness can be usefull earlier.
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| 09/11/05 13:55 |
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RevsStriker
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So I should take swift instead???
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| 09/11/05 13:57 |
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[QUOTE]
Hero Profile
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Level 1: Smite
Level 1: Dark Embrace
Level 2: Shadow Maul
Level 4: Death Shroud
Level 6: Murky Cloud
Level 8: Hasten
Level 10: Obsidian Shield
Level 12: Hurdle
Level 14: Super Speed
Level 16: Dark Regeneration
Level 18: Dark Consumption
Level 20: Health
Level 22: Stamina
Level 24: Cloak of Darkness
Level 26: Soul Drain
Level 28: Boxing
Level 30: Tough
Level 32: Midnight Grasp
Level 35: Oppresive Gloom
Level 38: Soul Transfer
Level 41: Torrent
Level 44: Petrifying Gaze
Level 47: Tenebrous Tenticles
Level 49: Hover
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i would get rid of hurdle and go swift but later. i would also get combat jumping and go the route of super jump so you don't have to waste a power on hover. i would get hasten later and get a taunt. without hover you could get weave.
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| 09/11/05 14:14 |
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GrandmastA
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why dont you just use this wonderful guide by warshadow.
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| 09/11/05 15:03 |
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hi
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| 09/11/05 15:03 |
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Falzure
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| QUOTE | | So I should take swift instead??? |
Yes.
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| 09/15/05 01:37 |
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Newbie question, BUT... why take swift over hurdle?
With super speed, I've found it to be a great asset, as now I can at least keep up better with my Super Jumping friends.
Before resepec, I took swift. Now, it's not that I expected swift to give a speed increase to SS, but because since I kept SS turned off during combat, and didn't want to waste end. with sprint... I thought it would be great. I was wrong, because it didn't really help me at all...
I love swift because I can get out of areas like Terra Volta much easier, and it really helps moving across the terrain for whatever reason.
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| 09/25/05 16:51 |
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I don't know why people keep trashing Hurdle. Hurdle is always on as opposed to Combat Jump which is a toggle that you have to keep turning off & on. True, CJ has a defense bonus & I used to be a CJ junkie myself, but I much prefer always haveing the leaping ability available without haveing to worry about activating it. In the leaping pool I took jumpkick on my darf/dark Scrapper & have no regrets, it does moderate damage & works in well with my attack repetior.
To me fly would be a waste, I like fly on Blasters & Controlers where you can use hover as a great airial fighting platform that hardly eats any end + has a defense bonus, but haveing ranged attacks seems to be a major requirement for benifiting from that power pool.
I would get Hurdle & health early on, then pick up Stamina as soon as you hit 20.
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| 09/25/05 19:23 |
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I also am a dark/dark scrapper, and i only reccomend these changes during a respec of at least lvl 28:
lvl 1: Smite; Dmg x4, Acc
lvl 1: Dark embrace; none
lvl 2: Shadow Maul; dmg x4, acc
lvl 4: Death shroud; dmg x3, end redux x2
lvl 6: Jump kick; knockback
lvl 8: Hasten; rechrg x2
lvl 10: kick; knockback
lvl 12: swift; run speed
lvl 14: Super jump; jump height
lvl 16: Dark regeneration; end redux x2
lvl 18: Dark consumption; rechrg x2
lvl 20: Cloak of Darkness; defense buff x4
lvl 22: health; heal
lvl 24: Stamina; end rechrg x4
lvl 26: Soul drain; rechrg x3
lvl 28: Tough; dmg resist
I use this build with my scrapper, and i have to say i dont know how it will play through the lower levels, but i repeced at 28 and it plays perfectly. cloak of darkness, tough, and death shroud are your main shields, and with stamina it doesnt suck endurance like some other builds. i left some extra enhancement slots on purpose, in case you want them else where, but i recommend you put them on high endurance cost powers, and lower that cost. swift is much better to have at higher lvls because it allows you to sprint without the end cost. the kick powers are very useful when used in combination with soul drain, because the knockback can triple if you are in the middle of a large group. also, you might want to keep dark consumption and dark regen in the immediate tray, just in case. if you are in a situation where you are dying, you are probably overwhelmed by baddies,so they help immensly, restoring you to full status with just 3 baddies in range. tough isnt really helpful untill you can slot it about 3 more times, so its not necesary to use it until it is.
some of these powers i did not slot, because this is a respec and i have better ones. smite and shadow maul will be your heavy hitters, and with soul drain and shadow maul's small cone, it is possible to take multiple baddies out with one hit. hasten is probably the most helpful power, doubling attack times. this is especially helpful on soul drain, which is stackable if it recharges fast enough.
i chose super jump over other travel powers because it is by far the most helpful, allowing you to get out of pits or situations that you dont want to be in. oh and whatever you do, dont get fly, because its slow and you almost always die when you try to use it to escape.
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| 11/02/05 18:15 |
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As for my wonderful guide that was pre i5 but here us my current build and it seems to do well. Also ignore the lvls of the slots because I don't bother with remebering that stuff.
Exported from version 1.5B of CoH Planner
http://joechott.com/coh
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary Powers - Ranged : Dark Melee
Secondary Powers - Support : Dark Armor
01 : Dark Embrace damres(01) damres(3) damres(3) damres(5) damres(5) damres(7)
01 : Smite dam(01) dam(7) dam(9) acc(9) acc(11) recred(11)
02 : Shadow Maul dam(02) dam(13) dam(13) acc(15) acc(15) recred(17)
04 : Murky Cloud damres(04) damres(17) damres(19) damres(19) damres(21) damres(21)
06 : Swift runspd(06)
08 : Shadow Punch dam(08) dam(23) dam(23) acc(25) acc(25) recred(27)
10 : Obsidian Shield damres(10) damres(27) damres(29) damres(29) damres(31) damres(31)
12 : Combat Jumping jmp(12)
14 : Super Jump jmp(14)
16 : Dark Regeneration hel(16) acc(31) acc(33)
18 : Dark Consumption endrec(18) acc(33) acc(33) recred(34) recred(34) recred(34)
20 : Cloak of Darkness recred(20)
22 : Hurdle jmp(22)
24 : Stamina endrec(24) endrec(36) endrec(36) endrec(36)
26 : Soul Drain acc(26) acc(37) recred(37) recred(37) recred(39) recred(39)
28 : Touch of Fear acc(28) acc(39) ferdur(40) ferdur(40)
30 : Acrobatics recred(30)
32 : Midnight Grasp acc(32) acc(40) dam(42) dam(42) immdur(42) immdur(43)
35 : Recall Friend rng(35)
38 : Teleport endred(38) endred(43) rng(43) rng(45)
41 : Torrent acc(41) kbkdis(45)
44 : Dark Blast acc(44) acc(45) dam(46) dam(46) dam(46) dam(48)
47 : Death Shroud acc(47) acc(48) dam(48) dam(50) dam(50) dam(50)
49 : Team Teleport recred(49)
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01 : Brawl enhancement(01)
01 : Sprint enhancement(01)
02 : Rest enhancement(02)
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| 11/02/05 18:36 |
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Allow me to add my two cents...
I've got a level 12 Dark/Dark Scrapper...when I played on my bro's account he was level 15 but anyways...
I currently have:
Shadow Punch (way underrated...quick, does decent damage..)
Smite
Shadow Maul
Siphon Life (I kinda regret taking it so early but...)
Dark Embrace
Death Shroud
Combat Jumping
Confront (my taunt...gotta have it.)
At 14, its SuperJump because I like being able to leap tall buildings in a single bound...and its much less endurance intensive than some other Travel powers...
From there, I'm going to get involved in the Fitness pool and my other shields (Obsidian Shield and Murky Cloud)...after that, I don't really know...I guess just work towards my Epic Pool...can't wait for a ranged attack... :) I'm giddy with joy.
Hope that helps...hurdle and swift won't even enter my equation...I highly recommend Shadow Punch by the way...
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| 11/02/05 18:48 |
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| 12/08/05 17:20 |
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Hehe, no problem MightySmiter!
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| 12/08/05 18:42 |
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im a lvl 35 dark scrapper, and i have to say, the fighting pool is useless. tough and weave just arent worth it. i have dark embrace 6 slotted, and obsidian shield and murky cloud 4 slotted. right now, i can take pretty much any type of damage and be fine. boxing is a stupid attack that rarely hits, but shadow punch almost always hits and does additional dark dmg.
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| 02/10/06 09:33 |
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Yea another Dark scrapper all is right with the world now. Ever since I had to mess with my slotting due to ED the big difference I notice is that the Infernal portal mission just kicks my butt when I get to the portal because of the sheer amount of fire damage that is flying around.
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