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It seems like nowadays there is huge contradiction in the philosophy of guild wars and it upsets me alot. I am an honesty player, I dont buy gold, don't farm and rarely have more than 10k to my name between my character. Honestly it pisses me off to see skills for a character cost 1k, even signet of capture. Sure guild wars wants people to do the skill quests, ok, now what about the freedom to change secondaries anytime after your asscention? Now to change it costs at least 10k to get a good balanced skill set. this is stupid, by trying to discourage cheating in game (running for skills) guild wars has really encouraged more people to go out and buy gold on ebay strickly because they cant afford the things they want. and I find it stupid. Guild wars needs to realize that its 20% of the people causing 80% of the problem and doing things like this to stop them is only making honest players upset and more willing to cheat.
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| 10/21/05 00:33 |
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Mann
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Well, I understand how you feel. But I disagree. I feel that the prices are fair as they are now. This teaches one to know better when making characters. As in making better choices in the future. It isn't so bad not to go out and do a few more quests, is it? Spend your money wisely instead. If you want a skill, save up for it. I honestly don't know how this makes cheaters and what not. But if you noticed, people mostly buy gold with real money to buy items. If you want to unlock more skills instead of paying, make a new character maybe with a completly different set of proffessions?
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| 10/21/05 01:27 |
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I really like the way it is now, you can buy some things cheap, you get some expensive, like in real life you think ?
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| 10/21/05 02:02 |
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Who says farming makes you a 'dishonest' player? The GuildWars.Com Fansite Friday of Oct. 14th spoke to farming and item sales. They don't have anything against the player that farms, they are against what they call 'extreme' farming, where players exploit areas to make huge amounts of coin easily and quickly. It's those areas that get nerfed.
However, it's acceptable to spend time killing creatures for coin and to sell drops. Once you level to 20, you shouldn't have any problem finding an area where you can make 1k in under an hour. If you stick to only obtaining coin through normal play, like doing quests and missions, you'll always be poor.
Arena.Net says the 50% of players have under 10k and 75% of player have less than 20k. So, anything in the game costing more than 20k will only be available to top 25% of the players (coinwise). However, things like skills, that cost 1k, should be available to everyone that have leveled a character.
Just be happy that skills haven't gone the route of supply and demand, like runes. I find the cost of a Superior Rune of Apsorbtion (100k), or a Superior Rune of Vigor (70k)to be totally out of line and obsence. In my opinion, these prices are wholly driven by those purchasing coin for real cash or those engaged in extreme farming.
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| 10/21/05 02:44 |
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I have to agree to the original post, specially to the point where it says that it becomes hard to change to secondary prof. I made a W/N for example, and in the beginning wasn't very happy and used only worrior skills. Later I found 1 or 2 nice combinations that fitted to what i was going after, however at some point I wanted to try Wo/Mo for various reasons, but I found this very expensive. I tried to do the monk quests they would let me do, but i only got 3 or 4 quests that way and only a few of the skills i wanted to try. Same when I heard about the IWAY thing and wanted to try it out.
I think it is ok that the cost of your skills depends on the amount of skills you already know, or even on the "worthiness" of that specific skill (similar to items that cost more or less depending on efectiveness). But when you change secondary prof, something that should be encouraged as it allows to try more combinations and somehow makes up with the 4 char slots, the price of the skills of the new prof should should be reset.
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| 10/21/05 02:53 |
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I agree that the prices of skills are too high. I never used to by the skills that I could get for free from a quest anyway. My gripe about this is that they say this game isn't a grind, but when they charge so much for things like this they make it a grind because now I have to go farm a lot or run people to get the money.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a game that is a little of a grind and I don't mind farming the same monsters over and over again as long as there is some profit to it. What really irks me though, is when you say one thing and then do something that contradicts what you say.
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| 10/21/05 07:49 |
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| QUOTE | ... This teaches one to know better when making characters. As in making better choices in the future.
... make a new character maybe with a completly different set of proffessions? |
I find the first response lacking...especially considering the annoying number of people asking 'what should i make as my character' Teaches one to wisely make better future choices? Speaking from someone who cannot play the game except on the weekends, starting a new character to 'try' simply because I cannot afford to utilize something put in the game, is somewhat ridiculous... I can afford skills, but i can definitely see where many cant.
Same arguement applies to answer number 2, Deleting a character that I have done what the game asks, and to try and better enjoy the game as sold, is out of the question. Why should I be forced to either start over, or delete a character that I have worked hard on, simply because I would like to further have fun in the game? To try the new things in another profession? Maybe with the eventuality of having to delete a character I enjoy to do so (annoying but possible) if I choose, not simply because of economic pressures.
And definitely a sig of capture should not be priced so high, capturing skills seems to be the way the game should be played, now that is even difficult... and certainly makes you pass up potential skills simply because you think you 'might not' use it, when in fact, would be a great benefit.
Regarding the cheaters... I consider anyone who made an invincimonk, and who routinely and often exploited the UW for individual profit, if not actual cheaters, a very low form of gamer/player.
For those who may remark that I am just mad because I couldnt, I assure you, the option was there, and I made a choice not to pursue it.
AND... I wish they would just put a mountain between beacons and draks...stop the running there
hmmmm, hopefully that's all not a rant :P
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| 10/21/05 11:55 |
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why does it bother you SOOOO much that people get ran to droknars forge? yeah they have armor........big whoop. mesmers and necros and EASILY bypass that armor with despells and health degen. The only time that 'armor' MIGHT (and very strong might) come into play, is if a warrior is fighting hand to hand with another warrior. Bah just get over it man. Let people play the game they would like to play it...after all, not a single one of these people complaining about the droks run gave me a dime to go towards me buying Guild Wars. YOU do not own their game, so let people play the way they want. Same thing with people farming UW...ok so you dont want money blah blah, but the other people that do it obviously want the money. Does having tons of money make them more powerful? no. but as long as in THEIR MIND they are happy and enjoying the experience, then I say farm on. If you did not help the person out by giving them some money to help buy the game, JUST BUTT-OUT AND MIND YOUR BUSINESS! if they run, or if they farm, has NO affect on how you play your game. The time that you are wasting flaming people for runs or for farming, you could EASILY be creating another character and 'playing the way you want it to be played'. That concludes MY rant.
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| 10/21/05 12:04 |
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Okay, so make skills cheap. Then what do you do when you don't have enough skill points to purchase any more skills?
People will have to xp farm instead of gold farm, which would drive up the cost of rare scrolls, which would cause people to gold farm.
yeah, I wish cap sigs were cheaper, but more I wish they didn't cost a skill point! 1K I can get non-solo farming in GF quickly. Skill points are not gotten so fast.
I wonder if those of us who put actual thought into this are those who are spending time unlocking regular PvP skills in PvE so Faction can be spent on better things?
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| 10/21/05 12:23 |
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First of all, I don't think that 1k per skill, even signets of capture, is obscene. The only people who this costs that much for are people who have bought a lot, and I mean a LOT, of skills, and the only people who have bought this many are usually level 20 players anyway. It is simple for level 20 characters to get 1k, and even 10k takes only about 6 hours on a very bad day. So, it still takes very little to get that much cash.
On top of that, the main reason people buy skills is, in my personal experience by watching guild members and other people, is to farm, run, or make uberbuff characters for similar purposes. Since all of these are means of making more money anyway, I don't see the problem.
Also, I agree with StarGazer on the subject of the Drok's run. If they want to get to Droknar's Forge with a level 1 character, get the armor, then go kick newbie butt in the ascalon arena, let them. They are just proving themselves to be n00bs, since only someone who can't actually win purely legitimately in the arenas would want to do that sort of thing. And if they want the armor for pve only, well, they spent the money on a better chance of success in the game, so it is a valid investment on their part.
By the way, I define "newbie" as a player that is new to the game, while n00b/noob is a player that just sucks at it. Newbies are OK, I help them out on occasion with advice. n00bs, though, should all be shot in the face.
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| 10/21/05 12:25 |
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also to add on the point of doing PVP in arenas....those people really are noobs that think that the Random Arenas are worth anything...if you are wanting to do pvp, go to Tombs....you get a much more payoff than saying 'YEA MAN I PWND THIS LVL2 NEWB WITH MY UBER FIRESTICK'...people waste their times in any of the arenas...tombs is where the true reward comes from.
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I also agree with you on the skill points. Skills are VERY easily obtainined for a lower level player. The only time the price gets obscene is when someone buys EVERY skill for EVERY profession at the FIRST trader they see. If you are an axe warrior, why are you buying sword skills? If you are a fire ele, why are you buying Air magic? Honestly, it makes people put more thought in their characters, and forces people to be more efficient in some areas than others...and this proves to have more skilled people, who have played the entire game with a fire ele, and knows the ins and the outs of the skills they have bought.
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| 10/21/05 12:29 |
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| QUOTE | To try the new things in another profession? Maybe with the eventuality of having to delete a character I enjoy to do so (annoying but possible) if I choose, not simply because of economic pressures.
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Completely agree in that! I deleted my 4th char because I wanted to play as a different char (wouldn't have done so if I had more char slots of course). What would really drive me mad is creating a char just because I want to capture skills I can't afford buying all the ones I want in a normal gameplaying way.
Another thing I agree is that extreme farming is kind of a power playing and effects other players by creating hiperinflation in certain items. Nevertheless, if this people are happy spending hours and hours doing the same run its their problem (or not a problem at all).
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| 10/21/05 12:40 |
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Opinions are always opinions, facts are facts. Put of course, people mistake opinions for facts, or vice versa. :)
Anyways. We can say against as much as we want to, but it's not really going to change anything right now. Prices are what they are now. And all we can really do is just try to earn more money for the skills we want.
Yes, my response was lacking. Kind of hard to really think late up at night. :p Forgot what i was trying to say... but it was something close to chosing skills wisely.
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| 10/21/05 12:42 |
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you may not like what im saying here...
skills atart of cheap and get more expencive there are few non elite skills that you cant get from completeing the game.
when i say completing the game i mean all the quests you can find.
if you just did primary quests or missioned your way through the game then yes you would spend allot of money at the end on skills.
there is a nice list of skills on the website so you can find the skills you want.
you dont need all the skills to play the game.
i buy skills for a change of secondary but i like to think ive earned at least some of them through farming or saving up for them.
and imho you can make coin while playing the game but people spend it on max dmg this and max dmg that.
save your money take your time it all comes to patient people (im impatient but i still take my time because i dont have much choice.
use the collectors maps that uccat has made to save yourself ... all the money for a max set of armor and weapons at the end of the game.
pick up things and get the bonuses out of them add them to you free collectors weapons. if you want to do it this way you will have plenty of gold to spend on skills you want. as for the skills costing 1 plat the dont they start at 50 gold i think. and rank up quickly so dont just buy buy buy take your time and pick them. you have my sympathy on my first char i spent lots on skills i later found for free. also you do get 2 free cap signets and as you can only use one elite at a time read up and pick one.
ok not the worlds greatest advice but it might help. and in all honesty ive made 6 charicters because i felt like a change and its learned me more about different profession skills than buying them followed by regretting. of which ive done plenty of both.
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| 10/21/05 13:01 |
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Not the worlds greatest advice. But it still is great advice.
I disagree with Star_Gazer about the topic on PvP. Why is it a waste of time? I have not seen one level 2 person in the Competition arenas. And I can assure, it's just as same as Tombs. Except more people, and a different way of playing. But you get fame. With random, you have to set yourself and prepare for anything that comes your way. Maybe useless to you, but not to others.
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| 10/21/05 13:06 |
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The price of skills has actually lowered if you have bought so many skills on one char that the price raised to over 1k, now 1k is the max price the skills can be. When the price was updated the skills were around 800g and would be over 1k by now if it wasnt for the update. Its also easier to get faction now so you can unlock them easier if you play pvp.
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| 10/21/05 13:17 |
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| QUOTE | | if they run, or if they farm, has NO affect on how you play your game... |
excuse me, but it does affect my game, and the way i must play it. It affects the economy, it affects the amount of monks available to play the game as healers, protectors, etc... it effectively eliminated half a dozen other classes from playing the game effectively, it gets places nerfed for players who do manage to try to do the UW quests, AND, i didnt personally attack anyone, other than stating my opinion.
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| 10/21/05 13:32 |
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high priced weapons ore armor aint that bad,.. to my oppinion,.. this way youll have a goal,.. something to look forward to,..
sure 15k is alot,.. but its not imposible,.. not at all
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| 10/21/05 13:36 |
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Have to agree with Uccat. People who run/farm and how much they do it do affect the play of everyone's game. It not only affects the economy, but affects arenas, missions, and what not.
ie. Playing pvp in the yak's bend arena. You just bought they yak's armor, and think you'll do just fine. You find a warrior with Platemail. great.
ie. You are the only one with droknars armor. You are doing a Kryta mission with a group and no one else has droknars armor. You end up the only one alive.
ie. You've worked hard to get to all the places you have been to. You come back to a place where you started off, and spent time coming back there every time you died to get to one place. All of a sudden you read something close to "Runner looking to go anywhere! Offer price."
Could go on, but those are just generalities of what people have experienced throughout playing guild wars.
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| 10/21/05 13:40 |
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| QUOTE | | Have to agree with Uccat. |
woot! 2x in one day, lol, we're on a roll
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| 10/21/05 13:45 |
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yeah but what can the little man do about it,..
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| 10/21/05 13:47 |
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What do you mean by little man though?
Not sure if you are using it as people who are new, or what not.
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| 10/21/05 13:49 |
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what i meant was more more like a single player,..
what can a single player do about it,.. ore what can we do about it,..
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| 10/21/05 13:51 |
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What can one/we do about trying to make a change?
One can try to contact Anet themselves, and discuss about changes. Ask for reasons, give reasons why one thing should change, or whatever. Or, that one person comes here to the forums. As it already has.
In a community, each person has a voice that should be heard. And a whole community is a voice itself. If enough people were willing, a petition can be held. Or just discuss about it, and find other ways. Just because we only see each other on forums, doesn't mean we can't help each other out.
Commuity = like a family. One asks, we give opinions/help. We fight, care, discuss, etc.
You've probably heard it before. "One for all, and all for one."
So in this situation right now, what can one do about the skills problem? Start by learning how to save your money. Spend it along the way wisely. Ask guild members for help if they are willing. Or just join the group of farmers. Other than that, can always go back to asking Anet and us other forum people for advice on how to deal with it.
little men can stil have big voices. My dad's shorter than me but he can kick my ass and sneeze as loud as a bull horn. And can yell louder than anyone I know. :p
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| 10/21/05 13:59 |
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each of my characters have about 3 builds that I pretty much use religiously revolving around maybe 20 skills, and I would say about 90% of those skills were aquired through quests. So paying a couple thousand for cap sigs or another skill along the way doesn't seem to be that big of a deal. Just don't buy stupid skills. Or unlock them with faction which is very easy to acquire.
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| 10/22/05 16:50 |
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Couple of points that might be of use:
One, I agree with UC Cat in that farming and running affect our gameplay as well. Savor it UC :-)
The farming and the high prices for a lot of items are intertwined phenomena which strengthen each other. Read my article on the game economy if you wish to know more about it. The running to Droknar's Forge, or more precisely the Elite Capping, buying 1.5K armor then rushing back to Old Ascalon to beat up 'little kids' in the Arena there adversely affects the gameplay of a lot of people.
Two, this Topic started with a complaint about the cost of Skills. Anet/NCSoft provides us with several different ways of gameplay to get skills, through faction, through Quests, through Captures and through buying them. If you wish to partake of the last option, you'd be advised to alter your gameplay style to facilitate this. I.e. play in such a way that you accumulate wealth. Other gameplay styles will get you the same skills, with less to no expenditure of wealth.
Three. On the subject of changing your second profession. What's keeping you from going back to Old Ascalon and do all the Quests that give you Skills again for your new second profession? That's what I did when I switched from Mo/W to Mo/R. I didn't do all of them, just the one's with the skills I felt I needed for a reward.
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| 10/22/05 17:11 |
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this will mostlly b posted to the uccat fellow who has a problem with solo monks!
1. u dont get very much exp from soloing for 1 seeings how u cant do the quests and b4 changes made in game u needed 20k exp to get it so 1 solo monks didnt get there exp in uw!
2. who do u think kept ecto prices at a reasonable cost definantlly wasn t someone who was just out for money it was solo monks i personnally with friends sold my ecto to the merchant to balance cost s.
3. if u ever soloed the uw ud know every run u didnt walk out with 10 ecto s and 5 gold storm bows it took time to get them just as it would be easier for a group of 6 to get them more often so were did it really benifit the monk?
all u and the rest of the ppl who cry about it r doin is just that u dont know the whole story so u want to rant and rave like u do know something. next time u want to cry make sure u know what ur talking about. u saying invinci monks r low lives is sayin anyone who solo s single areas r lowlives and im sure at 1 point and time uve soloed single areas b4! o and by the way a w/mo can solo the uw as well and ur prolly just mad u hadn t thought about that just as mesmers and necros can so can a ranger o myyy
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| 10/22/05 20:24 |
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| 10/22/05 21:12 |
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umm how does farming make u a dishonest player? maybe its a way to get money *hint hint* to buy the skills u want *hint hint*
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| 10/22/05 21:21 |
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the high price of skills is a bother to be sure.
But this is an online RPG, if you want hings to be easy and affordable go play Morrowind. (a great RPG mind you)
Yeah sometimes i get bothered having to farm for gold so i can pimp out my characters with the latest kick butt armor and pay for skills so i can Ubersize my Necro/ ranger into a necro Monk and then back again on the fly.
truth be told that what keeps me coming back to this game.
the economy is hard on alot of people and easy on others.
but thats the diversity of this game, it forces you to change how you play, offers you incentive to play another way. nothing is handed to you. If you can make 50k farming griffons, well god bless you i tried its hard as hell.
If you want a game where you can be A super hard ass without working at it, then go back to playing GTA San Andreas and learn all the stupid money cheats and weapon cheats.
This game rewards you on how you play not how long. what does that mean? well if you play the game for a short time really well, you wouldnt worry about how much skills cost.
If you play forever, poorly, well the 1k for skills will seem insurmountable.
believe me if you want to beat this game and move on to the next one quickly, you can do so easily without spending any more money than you earn in quests and missions. but if you want to fully enjoy every aspect of this game and earn every reward you get as small as they may be, you'd be damn glad they made it tough.
Sure i get annoyed at farming and selling and sometimes i wish I could just find something that i can sell to a trader woth 50k. But the very fact that I cant is the sole reason why I play this miserable game every chance I get.
thats what an RPG is..Building, attaining the next goal and 700+ hours in 3 months into it, i still have many goals i can attain, good thing is i dont have to..but I do.
Kain
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| 10/22/05 22:02 |
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