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DwarvenKing

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which bow?

i'm just wandering is there a difference in speed attack using diferent bow,and if yes,which is the fastest?(and if no,what's the other difference between ,say..,max dmg long bow and recurve bow??)

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11/24/05 17:51

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Re: which bow?

i THINK no matter wat bow if they are max dmg they will always have the same average of dmg, but long bows are made for pulling for long distance which have a long arch, short bows are the fastest continous fire bow...think i got that right :)

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11/24/05 17:54

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Re: which bow?

All bows are not equal, and some bows are better for different tasks at hand.

for the interrupt ranger there are 2 current builds running. Some use read the wind prep and a flat bow. The flat bow and short bow have the highest refire rates and the flat bow has the range of a longbow as well, but the flat bow also has the highest arch and is easiest to miss with, especially on a moving target. Read the wind straightens the arc to that of a composite or recurve bow and maintains the high refire rate. Others use just the composite bow wich has less refire, but is always straight and deadly accurate and overall the best bow (clean of any preps) for interruption. It also lends the option of adding a different prep and the ranger won't be reliant on said prep for interruption.

Long bows are great for the pull, wouldn't use them for much else, which is why I find it even more ammusing that people will pay ungodly ammounts for a stormbow (which is spec'd as a long bow)...what an absolute bloody waste of money.

Shortbows have good accuracy and high refire, but you have to be smack dab inside the aggro circle to hit anything. Some rangers don't mind this since they're often final targets, and not primaries, and if the going gets tough they usually have a stance to avoid massive hits. I like to pull my vamp half moon out for when I have someone right up in my face.

Horn bows have the most dmg/hit and rumor has it that they have a base armor penetration of 10, but they also have the slowest refire rate.

Ultimately the right bow for you just depends on the preps and speed buffs you may use, or the role you are fulfilling. My recommendation is to have at least 2 bows at your disposal, I personally have 4 equipped and more in storage.

Just look at your skills to make the right choice, but please, for the love of god, don't buy a stormbow...

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11/24/05 18:41

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Re: which bow?

Conserning the whole Storm bow thing, I couldn't agree more. I see more idiots with storm bows every day and it makes me sick to see people wasting their money on something that just makes you more of a target to others.
also, buying a storm bow is like choosing a crappy car just cuz its shiniest. (if i sound pissed its cuz more scammers use these than anything else)

11/24/05 19:00

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Re: which bow?

Some bow info I found on the internet

Bow Refire Rate Range Trajectory

Composite 2.7 seconds Medium Low Arc
Dead Bow 2.7 seconds Medium Low Arc
Flatbow 2.0 seconds Long High Arc
Half Moon 1.8 seconds Short Medium Arc
Horn Bow 2.7 seconds Medium Medium Arc
Ivory Bow 2.7 seconds Medium Medium Arc
Longbow 2.4 seconds Long Medium Arc
Recurve 2.7 seconds Medium Low Arc
Shortbow 1.8 seconds Short Medium Arc

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11/24/05 23:22

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Re: which bow?

I'm using the Drago's Composite bow for long ranged and middle ranged battles and i use the godly gold shortbow to pack a punch in the short ranged battles.

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11/24/05 23:44

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Re: which bow?

Horn Bows have a 10:10 Sundering on it, but you don't see it. Have to compare the damage for yourself to believe it.

11/25/05 00:10

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Re: which bow?

Van Goghs Ear hit the nail on the head (or ear, whatever floats your boat). +5 cred. Nice, informative post.

Personally, I use:

Fiery Shortbow of Fortitude
Icy Shortbow of Fortitude
Sundering Shadow Bow of Marksmanship (my pride and joy)
Ebon Longbow of Marksmanship (pulling)

11/25/05 00:16

wakka824

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Re: which bow?

Yeah, that stormbow thing is right, i think the minimum for a clean storm bow is like 30k or somthing. For me i got my Graygore's short bow (its up for sale if you want it), and i got my long bow (don't really care about the mods on it, just use it for pulling. I like short bows though... incase any one wanted to know.

11/25/05 01:30

dragoniusx

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Re: which bow?

My ranger allways carries:

(My Primary Bow) Half Moon Bow
i allways use this bow :) i love the half moon bow, there is something special about it... (and what makes me happy the most, hardly any1 uses it! :D )

(my secondary bow) Stormbow (just in case see * part below)

*Well in pvp i often get players with like 10 hp left running like they're running the marathon and that kinda annoys, so i allways carry a long bow in this case my stormbow just in case i need to make this long distant perfect shot acros the arena what players that use melee cant do.

11/25/05 04:00

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Re: which bow?

if horn bows have a sunderung 10:10 does that mean that if i put a sundering string on it, it will be 10:20??

11/25/05 04:13

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Re: which bow?

Bow strings/wraps are replaced by new ones, not added on. All Guildwars upgrades work like that.

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11/25/05 04:25

dragoniusx

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Re: which bow?

the 10:10 sundering string would be ignored i guess...

11/25/05 04:28

SirShaitan

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Re: which bow?

It's my belief that Horn Bows, Ivory and Storm bows have a base 10/10 sundering on them.

You don't see a difference in performance when adding the 10/10 string.

As far as Bows are concerned I keep three on my weapon sets.
The Favorable winds skill is always on my bar.

F1 LongBow 10/10 sundering Pulling and Artillery
F2 Storm Bow 20% enchantment increase << favotite bow
F3 Short Bow increases Poison time << inside fighting

These three have made my ranger a very effective group addition.

11/25/05 06:30

van_goghs_ear

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Re: which bow?

QUOTE

that's the exact reason I have pin down and poison in my skill set...for running monks and running noobs at the end. The way I see it, if you have a res sig still, you are allowed to run, if not, you're just a noob wasting time. Take the time you would've spent running to work on a better build, but if you have storm chaser in your skill set, get a life.

On topic, my bows run as follows:

Poisoner's Composite Bow of Fortitude
15-28 dmg 15>50 +30 health (req 8)

Vampiric Halfmoon of Fortitude
15-28 dmg 15>50 5/1 vamp +30 health

Gargash's Recurve Bow
15-28 dmg 15>50 1/1 zealous +30 health

Sundering Long bow of Fortitude
15-28 dmg 15>50 10/10 sundering +30 health

Fiery Composite Bow of Fortitude
(fire dmg)15-28 dmg 15>50 +30 health

I do switch roles quite often. The composite bow is my bow of choice despite the long refire rate, gotta love the accuracy on it though, the only time I ever miss is because of a stance.

11/25/05 17:27

dragoniusx

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Re: which bow?

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1) I aint dedicating my whole skill setup to some running idiots, when i can just shoot this simple shot across the arena, which takes them out, nuttin to it.

2) We are all different and i prefer it to remain that way, i wouldnt wanna see to much ppl running arround with the same build my ranger uses to get an average 16 conse wins
and delivering over 100 dmg a shot + interuption, killing most spellcasters within seconds... (but thats not the point so ignore that)

3) I dont get why u have to react in such a negative way towards my post, ffs man, its all a bunch of opinions and thoughts, THATS ALL THERE IS HERE!

11/26/05 03:44

DwarvenKing

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Re: which bow?

thx a lot all of ye :D
it's a great help

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11/26/05 04:11

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Re: which bow?

i only use 2 basically, and have about 20

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11/26/05 10:16

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Re: which bow?

ok the deal with horn bows is that it has 15% armor penetration, but short range and fire rate. this is a fact. even check it in the guild wars guide book it explains how all bows compare to each other.

11/26/05 10:40

supersayaingoku

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Re: which bow?

i use a thornbeards horn bow and a gold long bow both for there reasons longbow for when i need my range and then horn bow when middle and short range

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11/26/05 10:48

van_goghs_ear

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Re: which bow?

QUOTE

huh??

1. I wasn't, I was simply stating what I do. If anything I was agreeing with the fact that I hate the runners.
2. Pin down is an excellent monk killer, especially if you're running a W/R in your team build.
3. Don't be so damned sensitive, especially when nothing warrants it.

11/26/05 12:31

healertank

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Re: which bow?

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Gargash's Recurve Bow
15-28 dmg 15>50 1/1 zealous +30 health

is it me or is gargash's 15% enchanted?

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11/26/05 12:52

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Re: which bow?

Gah!!! the ignorance on bows is too much!!(j/k but there is some mis-information here)
Horn bows have the same range and arc as longbows but a slower refire rate and they have base 10% armor penetration not 15%. Composite bows have the shortest flight arc of any bow(short bows have a normal flight arc, but because the range is so short it seems to get there faster.) Flat Bows have the highest arc of any bow and a fast refire time with about longbow range, which makes them good for stationary targets, close-up interupting, and pulling.

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Most of the people using Storm Chaser are using the IVEX trapper build or a modified one. SC comes stock with that template and that build is probably more suited for larger areas like HoH or GvG, not Competition Arena. It would be much more useful to switch out SC for Whirling Defense for Competition Arena, IMO.

11/26/05 13:37

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