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hybrid_killer
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Well im a W/Mo in lions arch and everytime i go out of it i get wasted by anything i get near yielding little or no xp, i cant progress through the game due to the fact i just get killed i cant do any quests becasue they are foten too far for me to reach without dying, henches suck its just becoming basically impossible for me to get xp.. you'll probably say go bak to yaks bend or somthing but even there ill either get killed or no xp.
Any i deas on helping me get to lvl 20 cause im fresh out. and its annoying
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| 12/02/05 07:39 |
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blackphoenix
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First off, what level are you? If you are level 14 or there abouts then you are about on the right track.
What henchies are you taking? Try mixing it up a bit. I can usually get along just fine with the henchies. Don't think that just cause Dunham is a mesmer, he is worthless. Same goes for the others. If you have trouble with an area with a group of henchies, try it again, but change up your choice of henchies a little.
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| 12/02/05 07:46 |
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Star_Gazer
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try to redo your skill bar.....henchies in that area are great, if you have good tactics, and go a different route...have you tried to do d'allesio seaboard mission? its to the west of lions arch, pretty much right there. hope this helps...btw, once you get done with d'alessio, go east and head towards a town called beetledun...you can do it, i know you can!
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| 12/02/05 07:46 |
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cswella
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If you are getting killed easily at Yak's, and you are already at Lion's Arch, then there's a problem.
What level are you now?
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| 12/02/05 07:47 |
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hybrid_killer
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im level 15, almost 16. i tried doing the seaboard thing and died, its the bog scale or whatever they are called they kill me when i run into like 2 or 3
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| 12/02/05 08:02 |
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Star_Gazer
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you have to let us know more about u....are you a warrior? monk? what? lets us know ur character and your setup
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| 12/02/05 08:05 |
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cswella
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hmmm... well, bring Alesia, Orion, Claude, Thom, and Durham. those five are usually the best for me to use.
could you put your skill set and attribute sets on here? that would really help us help you.
[edit]: dangit, beat again....
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| 12/02/05 08:07 |
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mit surugi
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| QUOTE | | you have to let us know more about u....are you a warrior? monk? what? lets us know ur character and your setup |
uhm... star_gazer he sayd at the start he was a W/Mo
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| 12/02/05 08:11 |
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hybrid_killer
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ok yeah sorry, im a Warrior/monk
1. Bonettis
2. sprint
3. vigours spirit
4. healing breeze
5.Live vicariously
6.restore life
7. Mending
8. retribution.
4 healing 9 strength 9 swordsmanship..
i had it different than that untill i got really fed up just before this post and messed it all up..
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| 12/02/05 08:21 |
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cswella
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| QUOTE | ok yeah sorry, im a Warrior/monk
1. Bonettis
2. sprint
3. vigours spirit
4. healing breeze
5.Live vicariously
6.restore life
7. Mending
8. retribution.
4 healing 9 strength 9 swordsmanship..
i had it different than that untill i got really fed up just before this post and messed it all up.. |
K, first off, you need some sword attack skills. The reason you are dying is because you are probably tanking but not giving any damage.
Sever Artery and Gash are good ones to start with. Power Attack too would be good.
Take off Live Vicariously and Retribution. You only have two pips of energy regen, and you do need energy.
Yeah, that'd be a good build for tanking, but for damage dealing, no.
Endure Pain is also a nice skill, replace Vigorous Spirit with it.
Try this, and keep your stats where they are:
Sever Artery
Gash
Hamstring
Power Attack
Endure Pain
Mending
Restore Life
Healing Signet
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| 12/02/05 08:27 |
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Star_Gazer
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agreed....that setup is used mostly for soloing higher level areas, but since your questing, you need to be a tank...with massive fire power!...alesia will keep you alive, so just bring heal signet and restore life or any other rez you have that can be used more than once....and you should be on your way to bigger and better things!
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| 12/02/05 08:35 |
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ttn_2005
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4 healing, 9 Strength, 9 swordmanship
And your skill bar doesn't have a single sword attack skill? Like the other said, Sever Artery and Gash is a good combo.
Bonetti's Defense is OK, but not a good choice around Lion's Arch since most foes around that area are Ice Imps, Bog Skales, and Mergoyles, aka Elementalists, Necromancers and Mesmers (except for the bosses). So Bonetti's Defense won't help against those. Besides, this skill is based on Tactics, not Strength, so you'll only get the minimum time.
With no point in Smiting, Retribution shouldn't even be there in the first place.
Healing Breeze and Vigorous Spirit are good, but Live Vicariously AND Mending at the same time are not recommended. If you put both of them on, you will have no energy regen. With only 4 in healing, these won't help much either.
Cswella's suggestion is a pretty good skill setup, though I don't see much use for Hamstring (at 10 energy, it's a bit high). Mending is good, but watch out for the Mesmer and Necro, they can make short work of any spell and enchantment. Also be careful with Healing Signet, using it when under attack can be costly.
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| 12/02/05 08:55 |
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hybrid_killer
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ok ill try all this now. is there any particular place ishould stay away from around here? cause i got to some tengu guys and well i didnt get very far. so is there like some quik way of getting xp WITHOUT dying too much dont really mind about cash or anything like that..
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| 12/02/05 09:02 |
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UCCat
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| QUOTE | | ok ill try all this now. is there any particular place ishould stay away from around here? cause i got to some tengu guys and well i didnt get very far. so is there like some quik way of getting xp WITHOUT dying too much dont really mind about cash or anything like that.. |
like mentioned, load up on firepower, preferably adrenal skills, throw in 1 or 2 energy skills, you need at least 4 attack skills imho, and GO SLOW, work on your agro techniques.... it's tough with all henchies, but if u can perfect it with them, you are good to go... also, what armor are you wearing... and yeah, the chickens are tough everywhere in the game, hate the lil b*****ds
also, try to get into groups... it will help...if i had a lower level character i would come there and help, but if i bring my tank, it would do you a diservice to your development i am afraid.
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| 12/02/05 09:20 |
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You could try going out solo with the suggested skills, start from Gates of Kryta and just kill the Mergoyle Wavebreakers. As soon as you encounter the green scale guys, you zone back and start again. Those Mergoyles are terribly easy to kill, and give an okay amount of gold and xp for that point of the game. You can get to level 17, maybe even 18 there without it taking too much time.
It's also a nice practice for that new offensive setup :)
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| 12/02/05 09:32 |
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blackphoenix
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Ya, anytime I have to go up against the caromi tengu, avicara, etc... I always try to take out the mesmer first. They like to wreak havoc on all characters. In kryta, it is called the Carmoi Tengu Wild. As long as you kill them quickly, and the Braves don't take out alesia you should be ok. So, try not to aggro too many at once.
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| 12/02/05 09:39 |
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Beware of the chikens! I mean Tengus. You should experiment with other foes first before you fight those. They are dangerous because they have the 2 most "annoying" classes in the same group: Ranger and Mesmer (by annoying I mean hard to deal with). Combining that with warriors and they can make short work of your monk Alesia. She's too excited with casting and doesn't run away from the hail of arrows!
From Lion's Arch, head north and get to the beach, then head west and you'll get to Ascalon Settlement. If you're using this route, you'll only encounter Fire Imps, Bog Skale and Mergoyle. If you have trouble getting there, you should take Cynn, Mehnlo and Devona along (they're outside the gate at Lion's Arch).
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| 12/02/05 09:59 |
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hybrid_killer
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haha that is good, i tryed the build that cswella suggested and it works great, im sticking to mergoyles to try it out abit first and yeah it is pretty nice xp, now ll i need is a guide on which items to salvage and what not to im sure i found a guide somwhere but now its gone. and to fix my stupid computer crashing all the time.
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| 12/02/05 10:01 |
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salvage pretty much any white item that you get...i dont think mergoyles drop too good of weapons...dont salvage the mergoyle skulls, because all they give you is bones, and you will be wasting money salvaging vs selling to merchant...my suggestion would be to sell instead of salvage...but its all about how you wanna stock: items or gold?
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| 12/02/05 10:10 |
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Well, at level 16 you shouldn't be having any problems there at all, though quite frankly the build setup that you had sucks. It has too much healing, too many maintained enchantments, uses Retribution with no points in Smiting Prayers at an area where most enemies are casters of one variety or another, and doesn't take advantage of your two highest stats to their fullest.
Like other people have said, throw is some more attack skills, especially Sever Artery, Savage Slash if you have it, and probably Final Thrust if you have it as well. If you don't have Savage Slash, replace it with Distracting Blow (a no-attribute melee attack skill). As far as defenses go, you can't really do anything about a lot of the enemies in early Kryta; Bog Skales, Mergoyles, and Caromi Tengu Wilds all basically ignore it.
Also, you may be having difficulties if you're not fighting smart enough. For example, Bog Skales use Price of Failure and Soul Barbs. The former makes you take damage and miss with one of four attacks; if you miss, it hurts. Soul Barbs on the other hand makes you take damage whenever you get hit by an enchantment or hex. Your skill bar is heavy in enchantments, so if those run out and you recast them, ouch. Bad idea. Mergoyles, on the other hand, use a Spirit Shackles/Mind Wrack combo, but because of warrior's low energy and regen, they can get at most 5 attacks before Mind Wrack starts triggering with every attack, dealing 70 damage at a time. at this point, its better to activate a long-casting healing skill, especially healing signet if you beef up your Tactics attribute a bit.
We can see from your stats that you aren't carrying any runes, but what armor do you have? Warriors should invest in the best armor they possibly can, which for you would be Lion's Arch armor. This will make almost all enemies in the area deal you only about 10 damage per attack, which you and Alesia should be able to handle easily.
Other than that, you might try remixing your stats to have 9/7/7/3 Swords/Strength/Tactics/Healing and rely more on Healing Signet for your healing needs rather than other sources. In Kryta, you'll take only slightly more damage from the -40 armor while using the Signet and it will heal greatly more than that. On top of that, you won't be taking much spell damage when you're using it, so you'll win out overall. If it would make you feel better, you can take "Wach Yourself!" to mitigate the armor loss a bit.
Hope all my rambling helps... Oh yeah, one more thing: Make sure you wait for your henchmen's energy. If you want to know how long to wait, make a monk character and play it through if you haven't already. Personally, I think that everyone should start with a monk primary just so they know what we have to go through... It'll help when you're in a cooperative quest or mission, too, because you'll know how difficult monking can be.
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| 12/02/05 10:28 |
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Well most of that helped, the parts i understood anyway. il have to re-read it again later.
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| 12/02/05 10:39 |
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Like other said, definately make sure you have upgraded your armor. If your still wearing pre-searing armor then you're gonna get killed quickly.
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| 12/02/05 10:43 |
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:) All you guys have GREAT ideas. But I took it at another approach.
What most of you missed is that getting to level 20 isn't hard at all. Actually, I'm sure most of you got there before you knew it! The best way to get to level 20 is just...getting there. One shouldn't worry about it... *cough50,000experiencebonusAuguryrock* ;) A few friends and I actually completed the game with starter armor from Pre-searing. Of COURSE it's possible. Why? Chances are that when you are in a group, most of them will have pretty good armor by Ring of Fire. Just have to make sure you don't get targetted. ;)
Honestly, if you just play the game, you'll get there. When I play I mean do quests one by one, missions, bonuses. It's more fun that way then trying to grind levels which can be a bit boring for some. By the time you reach Droknar's Forge the real way, you'll be level 20. Unless you are one of those silly level 3 people who got ran to Sanctum Cay. :p
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| 12/02/05 10:50 |
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I could powerlvl you, did it with my friend; 1 till 20 min 10 houres(I runned him from ascalon city(lvl5) to aurgurie rock(pfew!!))
 
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| 12/02/05 10:51 |
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I don't know much about warriors but I'd say something must be very wrong if you get easily at Yak's at lvl 15, I've been farming Sand Drakes in the desert with 3 of my characters from lvl 12 up to get good xp.
Do you always try to do things alone/with henches?
If so try to get into a party of human players doing a quest you have sometime and see how they manage, you can learn from others by watching too.
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| 12/02/05 10:53 |
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:( I look down at powerleveling. Like I said earlier, it just takes doing a few quests and all the missions up right away. People who are new to the game who get powerleveled will find themselves asking for more and more ways to do this and that, because they were never able to figure things out for themselves. If you've beaten the games a few times, I guess it's... alright. But the first 2-3 characters I say should be played the right way. I mean, how else are you going to learn and make it stick?
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| 12/02/05 10:58 |
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| QUOTE | :) All you guys have GREAT ideas. But I took it at another approach.
What most of you missed is that getting to level 20 isn't hard at all. Actually, I'm sure most of you got there before you knew it! The best way to get to level 20 is just...getting there. One shouldn't worry about it... *cough50,000experiencebonusAuguryrock* ;) A few friends and I actually completed the game with starter armor from Pre-searing. Of COURSE it's possible. Why? Chances are that when you are in a group, most of them will have pretty good armor by Ring of Fire. Just have to make sure you don't get targetted. ;)
Honestly, if you just play the game, you'll get there. When I play I mean do quests one by one, missions, bonuses. It's more fun that way then trying to grind levels which can be a bit boring for some. By the time you reach Droknar's Forge the real way, you'll be level 20. Unless you are one of those silly level 3 people who got ran to Sanctum Cay. :p |
you are right, unfortunately most of us saw the skill set, and worked on his atatement of always dying, if he can get beyond that, the leveling comes in itself... he seems to be playing the game right, moving thru the cities... but someone led him astray with some skills, or he needed to just be pointed at the fact that it's a balance, staying alive, and killing quickly enough so you can stay alive :)
as for salvaging... salvage, preferably with an expert kit... anything but a material... weapons, armor, shields, most wands and staffs, etc... dont salvage anything like feathers, chicken scalps, skulls, etc... get to know what yields what most of the time... stay away from anything yielding bones, granite, etc...
and remember... wood and glittering dust are your friends... save every bit :)
next to save is steel and iron and leather and tanned hides... you will need them for armor and/or profitable sales after you stack up 250 or so.
and i agree, power leveling is goofy, and even if it's a 2nd or more character... unless you actually play that character i think you are going to loose some serious experiences
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| 12/02/05 11:27 |
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keep glittering dust you say..? well then a big fat oops for me..
yeah id prefer to play the game through a few times before power leveling. and i have armour from yaks bend.. umm gladiators armour or somthing and a wyvern helm i cant remember right now. it seems that the best armour in lions arch is full wyvern which is 5 points higher each piece than my gladiators armour is it worth spending all my ingots for the extra 25 points?
well i never really just go out and try to kill stuff i go and do quests mostly with henches, the only time i have been out by myself was just a minute ago when i changed my skill set.
do you think it would help if i dont have the level bar showing on the screen?
i am lvl 16 now :p 4 more to go!
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| 12/02/05 11:38 |
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do NOT buy each peice of armor every time you get to a town! you will lose money that way, and to be honest, 5 armor wont make or break a battle. and to be honest, I wouldnt stay in one spot to power level....once you get to different missions, and quests, you will have the experience that you need. lvl 16 at lions arch is perfect...by the time you hit about mid-jungle, you should be level 20....but the game isnt about getting to level 20 alone....its the tatics that you use, the social skills that you develop when getting into groups, and its the skillset that does the job for you. level 20 isnt an accomplishment in my opinion....if you have developed a great sense of team play, while creating an awesome build that works for you, then no matter what level you are, be it 1, 5, or 10, you are still better than any level 20 around. good luck in your ventures man, I think youll do great.
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| 12/02/05 11:48 |
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Yeah, keep Glittering Dust, Wood, and to a lesser degree Plant Fibers. These are where the big money lies. Outside Sardelac Sanitartium in Ascalon is a person called Artisan Daved [Materials]. If you bring him 5 wood and 20 gold, he'll give you a Roll of Parchment. These sell to traders for 70 gold each, or, if you can find a human buyer, about 90-100g each. 5 Plant Fibers and 20 gold can make Bolts of Linen, which are sold for roughly the same amount as Parchment but are harder to find a buyer for.
In later areas, especially one crafter that is fairly easy to run to outside Droknar's Forge, you can make Rolls of Vellum for 5 wood, 5 dust, and 200 gold, which can sell for about 400 each, or Bolts of Damask for 5 fibers, 5 dust, and 200 gold, which also sell for about 400 each. These are really profitable to make, but it can be difficult to find a buyer for them since they're largely only used in the really expensive armors.
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