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Asmodeus

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Could someone please tell me why the skill "Quick Shot" is elite?

Quick Shot
Shoot an arrow that moves twice as fast.

Energy: 5
Recover: 1

Why is this skll elite? I mean, here is another skill that rangers can use:

Called Shot
Shoot an arrow that moves 3 times faster than normal and cannot be blocked or evaded.

Energy: 5
Recover: 3

As far as i can see, called shot moves faster and cannot be blocked or evaded, with the only downside being you have to wait an extra few seconds to charge, and thsi isn't exactly a spammer skill? Any help appreciated, I'm sure i'm missing something....

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12/07/05 10:52

blackphoenix

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

It has to do with damage over time. If you shoot and arrow that does 15 dmg, and you shoot it every 3 seconds for 12 seconds that is 60dmg.

Now take the same and do it every second for 12 that is 180dmg.

So, potentially there is a 120 dmg difference in 12 seconds between them. That is why it is elite.

12/07/05 11:02

Asmodeus

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

But with that reasoning, wouldn't shoting an arrow normally do the same as a Quick shot, just moving through the air slightly slower?

I can see the bonus against a running foe, but what about a stationary one?

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12/07/05 11:24

Mann

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

Phoenix has it right. Not only that, but think of the stacked damage you can add with it in a short period of time. Adding it with an elemental string, or kindle arrows and then put on conjure flame, or what not, the damage adds up quickly. Yah sure, called shot is good, but when spiking, doing quick, fast, and hard damage is the way to finish off an enemy quickly.

12/07/05 11:26

Asmodeus

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

TY guys. +Cred for yous.

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12/07/05 11:30

blackphoenix

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

It would not be the same as shooting a normal arrow because of the inscreased speed of the arrows. Increased speed of arrows increases accuracy, which means even if your target is moving across in front of you there is a greater chance of hitting it than if you used a normal shot.

12/07/05 11:32

The True Myth

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

And just a correction... I think that called shot cost 10 energy.

12/07/05 11:40

blackphoenix

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

Unless it's wrong, our skills section says they are both 5 energy. If it is wrong, then you should take a screen shot and post it in the "Help the staff contest" thread. Get yourself a bribe(credibility) for it. :)

12/07/05 12:04

Asmodeus

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

QUOTE

And just a correction... I think that called shot cost 10 energy.

I was using called shot at the time, so I think its 5, sorry.

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12/07/05 13:25

darccyde

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

I have to disagree with you, guys. The skill says that the ARROW will move TWICE AS FAST. NOT the bow. Bow's have set firing rates. The only thing that can alter that is Increased Attack Speed skills. So you are NOT going to be able to fire a Quick Shot ever second.

12/09/05 10:21

Mann

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

Don't see where there is a disagreement, really. :) Of course you are not going to be able to fire quick shot every second. But remember, the faster the arrow goes out, the sooner you will be prepared to shoot another, if you noticed. Yes, bows do have varied shooting speeds, but when the arrow is out, you get ready for another one.

12/09/05 10:32

GW_Ranger

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

Actually I used Quick Shot for a while for spiking and it does seem to actually fire faster than a normal shot as well as move faster. Before some updates the original text was along the lines of:
Quick Shot
Fire an arrow twice as fast as normal. All of your attack skills are disabled for 2 seconds. This is an elite skill.

Obviously they got rid of the disabled part of it, but I think they kept the firing speed increase and added increase arrow speed.

Once I can get on later(much later)today, I will test this out. Feel free to not wait for me though and conduct your own experiment.

12/09/05 15:32

dragoniusx

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

have u guys tried the spirits EW and QZ with Quickshot? :P hehe

QZ: Quickening Zephyr
Create a level 1-8 Spirit. For creatures within its range, all skills recharge twice as fast and cost 30% more energy to cast. This Spirit dies after 15-39 seconds.

EW: Energizing Wind
Create a level 1-8 Spirit. For creatures within its range, all skills cost 15 less energy (minimum cost 10 energy), and skills recharge 25% slower than normal. This Spirit dies after 30-126 seconds.

both spirits have their neg's and poses so by using both of them they basiclly blockout their neg's, meaning: using Quickshot would cost u less energy and also the recharge time is reduced a little :)

so:

R/E: Kindle, Conjure flame, quickshot, QZ, EW.etc would really work well :) u might even consider adding Called shot;
Energy cost would be reduced slightly and so would the Recharge Time.

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12/09/05 16:44

GW_Ranger

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

The way to go is to somehow manage to cap th skill Chimeara of Intensity or the shout KILROY STONEKIN! Both of those do the same thing except Chimeara is better in that you don't have to be in shout range for it to take effect, but KILROY removes hexes and conditions.

12/09/05 23:29

GW_Ranger

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Re: Could someone please tell me why the skill

Sorry to double post, but I have just conducted my Quick Shot experiment. I used a Storm Bow(longbow) and used a default attack, Barrage, adn Quick Shot.
I measured(more estimated) the time for each attack as the time it took from bringing the arrow back to release.
For Default= this was about 2-2.5 seconds, but I'm leaning more towards 2.5 seconds.
Bararge= followed the timing on Default
Quick Shot= roughly 1/2 of the timing on Barrage and Default.

I also tested whether or not the arrow travels fster and I found in my limited-not-so-scientific experiment that it does not travel any faster than a normal attack.

In summary, Quick Shot fires an arrow in roughly 1/2 the time it takes for a normal attack to fire. Quick Shot arrows do not move any faster than a normal attack's arrows as the arc for both Quick Shot and a normal attack's are the same. Both the default arrow's and Quick Shot's arrow had the same travel time to target measured from release of the arrow to impact on target, which was roughly 1 second in this case.

These are just my findings, if you don't think they are truthful or reasonably accurate, please conduct your own experiment.

12/10/05 00:26

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