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blackphoenix
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I just had a rather interesting thought pop into my head. What if you were able make a character that only had or mostly had signets. The first requirement would be a mesmer primary or secondary, due to the elite Keystone Signet. That signet would allow you to immediately recharge all signets. The second would be Mantra of inscriptions to cut down the recharge time of Keystone Signet.
The point behind a signets only build would be energy use and instant action. As far as I know, all signets are instant action skills, and cost no energy.
I was going to put this all together myself, but I changed my mind and desided to post my idea before I start making a build to see if anyone else might come up with better ideas quicker than I can.
So, for a requirements recap:
Must be a mesmer primary or secondary
Must have elite Keystone Signet
Must have Mantra of Inscriptions
The rest is up to you. Have at it! :)
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| 12/16/05 12:29 |
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GodspeedX
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Not a bad idea, but not all signet are instant cast, look at the monk ones for instance. Ive never played mesmer primary so I dont know what fast casting would do on signet activation time.
If you want to look at a nice build with mainly signet here is one :
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content/build...ew-4-id1206.php
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| 12/16/05 12:42 |
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blackphoenix
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Yeah, that's awesome, thanks. +cred.
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| 12/16/05 14:30 |
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TalonWoJ
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Be careful about using all sigs. 1 Mesmer could shut you down with "Ignorance" which would disable all sigs for I think 20(s) at most.
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| 12/16/05 14:39 |
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Seth Oneil
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The mesmer's skill "Fast Casting" only works on "spells" so for example, if youhave a Me/R and you use troll unguent it will take you 3 seconds to cast no matter how much fast casting you have because it is a skill. The same rule applies to signets and non "Spell" skills.
I have loooked at a mostly signet build for my monk and a full signet build for my mesmer. But I believe Signets as useful as they are aren't as powerful as normal spells. Which would leave you weaker and vunrable when your signets in fact need to recharge. Keep playing around with it though.
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| 12/16/05 14:41 |
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KahlanXvii
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Mantra of signets + keystone signet + good old signet of weariness.
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| 12/16/05 14:48 |
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GuhnSlingar
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| QUOTE | | Be careful about using all sigs. 1 Mesmer could shut you down with "Ignorance" which would disable all sigs for I think 20(s) at most. |
"Rust" would also provide some troubles...
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| 12/16/05 14:53 |
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KahlanXvii
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However both can be removed with a smite hex, etc.
But it's true, these skills can disable an entire signet build.
Thats why I got ignorance equiped when I play HoH with my mesmer.
It's good vs Monks with blessed signet, signet of devotion (bye bye bonder =P).
And vs energy drain mesmers that use signet of weariness.
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| 12/16/05 15:16 |
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Joseph the Jester
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| QUOTE | However both can be removed with a smite hex, etc.
But it's true, these skills can disable an entire signet build.
Thats why I got ignorance equiped when I play HoH with my mesmer.
It's good vs Monks with blessed signet, signet of devotion (bye bye bonder =P).
And vs energy drain mesmers that use signet of weariness. |
Good thing I like playing a dominating mes.
BTW, fast casting decreases spell animation time. Lame IMO. It'd be more useful in decreasing actual casting time.
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| 12/18/05 20:52 |
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Ryolan Levi
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uh.. it does decrease spell casting time actually...
Theres a Rezmer called for that reason. He uses fastcasting to reduce the casting time for resurrect with 4 seconds.
The decrease is actually very good measureable.
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| 01/04/06 10:09 |
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BrianFellow
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I'm thinking he means signet casting time and it isn't affected by Fast Casting. Some sigs makes you lose energy as well and they are much easier to interrupt due to most having longer casting times.
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| 01/04/06 10:28 |
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Mann
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That is correct, as signets aren't... spells. Their signets. :p That's what they are for. Only reason why I don't use a build like that, is because my account is filled with 3 warriors. -_- I hate being nice to friends.
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| 01/04/06 10:42 |
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Joseph the Jester
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| QUOTE | uh.. it does decrease spell casting time actually...
Theres a Rezmer called for that reason. He uses fastcasting to reduce the casting time for resurrect with 4 seconds.
The decrease is actually very good measureable. |
sorry, I've not, through my 20 levels + ascension, noticed a decrease in casting time. In some instances I've actually noticed an increase, but that could be because of hexes.
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| 01/04/06 16:41 |
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Joseph the Jester
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| QUOTE | | I'm thinking he means signet casting time and it isn't affected by Fast Casting. Some sigs makes you lose energy as well and they are much easier to interrupt due to most having longer casting times. |
I'm not really impressed with the signets I've seen, except rez and cap. Those are the only two I find immensly useful and worth the cost at all.
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| 01/04/06 16:43 |
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I Opeth I
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something that my guild has experimented with before has been a signet mesmer, which is very, very effective, and it is able to shut down either 3 elite skills, with a little energy denial, or, have massive energy denial with a little elite shutdown. the b uild is as follows
Keystone Signet*, Mantra of Signets, Mantra of Inscriptions, Signet of Weariness, Leech Signet, Cry of Frustration, Sgnet of Humility, Rez Sig
16 Domination
13 Inspiration
the reason why there is no fast casting on this bar is because like someone said earlier, fast casting only works on "spells" and signets are not spells, theyre signets :P
the order that you use your signets in is, Mantra of signets + signet of weariness + signet of weariness + signet of humility + Mantra of inscriptions + keystone signet* Rinse and repeat, the leech signet is nice because on a capping ghostly in HoH, you can interrupt its claim resources 2 times on one mesmer alone by going leech signet, keystone, leech signet. hopefully this build helps people out, also there isnt a mandatory secondary on this mesmer, so you can do mes/mo with a hard rez if needed for gvg etc.
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| 02/01/06 23:45 |
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Lady Lozza
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The same goes for interrupts with the signet build, unless a skill says that it interrupts skills, then you will not be inturrupted when you are using signets :) Furthermore the same thing applies to skills like migrane. Personally I think that signet of midnight might be a better elite than keystone, but they both have their place depending on your 2ndary and what you are trying to achieve.
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| 02/13/06 23:11 |
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