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KailTi
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Hey guys! just wanted to know what pool powers did you guys choose for your brutes, im thinking of takeing combat jumping, SJ, and acrobatics. but i was thinking of tele foe. and medicene dont know... i have hurdle already but cant really choose what else. didnnt get a travel power because of jet pack = ) all advice will be appreciated
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Hi ya
I have taken super jump simply because it suited the brute I play. I took jump kick to start with simply as it has a nice knockdown on it.
I also have gone into the teleport pool for teleport foe - simply because of the PvP zones and getting revenge on the kheldians, plus no one expects to get teleported by a brute.
I plan on getting the fitness pool, probably take hurdle just to increase my health and endurance with Health and Stamina.
I also want to get the Presence pool for Intimidate and Invoke Panic - purely good to use in PvP against heroes, like scrappers, who love to get in close.
I might go for concealment, havent decided yet.
I started my build thinking that it'd be just like a tank, but it's not really. Thuggernaut can dish out a beating and take a beating but tactical play is better, always remember that your health bar can drop fast as can your endurance bar. I need to put some endurance reductions on my attacks as the end costs are high and as a brute, it's good to be able to know I got the endurance for a big mob. I'm also thinking of slotting some of the powers with some recharge reductions as well as sometimes I have a second where I cant use a power.
Hope this helps, I kinda went off a little there!
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i heard from many that BRUTES suck in PVP because of the stalkers, even with out shields... do we stand a chance? i hope so? yea im definetly taking tele foe for pulling if i play on the highest diff. is it true that brutes play BETTER when SOLO? right now im struggling on vicious with mine. going to pick up all the leaping powers and thx for the tips!
also i have auto brawl on is that a good idea?[/CODE]
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| 12/16/05 23:53 |
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I think you mean scrappers make our lives hell in PvP, Bloody Bay and Sirens Call being the only 2 I have dared enter yet.
Try dropping your difficulty level down, I play on the lowest setting but thats so that I can enjoy the game and not out level contacts. I'd rather fight something I know I can stand a chance of beating. Occasionally when in debt I'll up it one level.
Brutes are close range fighters. PvP is more ranged attacks, holds and faster close combat like scrappers. Yes we are good on a mission but I only found PvP any good in a one on one situation, or a held hero who I can beat senseless.
I'm sure that there are other brutes out there who can add to this to help out!
I'd sure like advice on PvP from other Brutes.
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| 12/17/05 01:38 |
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yea now it seems as if i die too often if i'm at vicious... so i dropped it down one, its fair i can manage it but alot of ppl told me on the champ server is that brutes are squishy until lvl 18 - 20 is that true? does anyone else feel or felt this way?
also the mish that i died 5 times in was the Wyren Fincier one... i hate it with passion!
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| 12/17/05 03:34 |
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| QUOTE | | ppl told me on the champ server is that brutes are squishy until lvl 18 - 20 is that true? does anyone else feel or felt this way? |
Heck no. My Energy Melee / Invulnerability brute has only recently started to chew floor, mainly because I'm not keeping an eye on my health or resting between fights.
I made sure that when I got the chance to slot a new enhancement I put one in either resist physical damage or into temporary invulnerability. That way my offence and defences were balanced.
Only once did I double slot a defence and that was at level 9 as I was starting to notice that I was losing health faster.
A lot of brutes go all out to hit rage and forget that just sometimes, you aint going to be fast enough to use a health inspiration or the team healers going to be busy doing sommat else.
I'm 25th level and haven't once hit rage max yet. I get close, but never actually get it to the point where it's kill everything in sight.
I've teamed, I've solo'd. It's only when I'm either not playing to my best coz I'm tired or I'm just plain reckless.
See how you go on a lower setting and don't be afraid or listen to other people who tell you that you get more XP on the higher setting.
Yes it's more of a challenge, but I prefer to not out level all the contacts and storylines.
I've got the Sea Witch to take out at the moment and I managed to escape with no debt last time I went in solo. Next time I'm taking a hand picked team I know I can work well with.
Gawd I go on when I'm semi awake. Anyways, I do hope that this helps. I'm currently doing a brute guide based on my build that I'll post up when I get round to finishing it off, takes you from 1st to 25th, based on the powers I have.
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| 12/17/05 03:51 |
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I have a very unorthodox Brute. (SS/EA) I have Combat Jumping, Hover, AS, Fly, Swift, Health, Stamina.
Main reason is because I wanted the CJ / Hover defenses.
I\'ve also been tossing around the idea of getting Maneuvers in the leadership line just for added comfort.
I also wanted to get stealth but I don\'t enjoy the speed penalty altho I\'m not sure if it affects hover speed.
But that would be for defense bonus as well..EA gives me a stealth and I\'m not very sure if there is a defense bonus.
I haven\'t got it yet, desprately needed Stam at 20 so I skipped the Energy Cloak.
Well when I get everything situated I\'ll repost how it works in pvp.
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| 12/17/05 11:48 |
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hey just wondering, whats your build? im a fire/dark brute, lvl 27. Ive been taking mainly my primary and secondary powers, with all of the stamina pool except swift, and the SS pool cause of a nice trick one of the site creators, Nogame, taught me. Anyway, ive been using most of my slots for the basics, damage, acc, and damage resist and ive been coming along great. I do solo a lot but ive noticed that i can take on much stronger (reds and purples) baddies as a member of a team. For a while i was teaming with Protusion on a regular basis when he was 3 lvls above me and usually not SK'ing. Fire/Dark is a great build for not running out of health/end as they both offer powers for refills. I might take stealth at 35, just to help with soloing but im not sure, might wait till 38. I havent done much in the PvP zones, but in the arena i find that i have no shot against villians with range. Brutes might take a big acc. hit or something cause i was getting nothing but air against a corrupter a lvl lower than me. I rarely miss against even lvl bosses so it was weird to me.
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| 12/17/05 16:31 |
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Myself, i have a dark/dark brute, and he can barely hit... lvl 14 i had to get two accs and redxend 3 slotted but he still misses! do you guys get this alot? i MISS alot maybe i should invest into DOs soon but they cost soo much so i would have to team more o well, do you guys expeince this?
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for my money assault and tactics are great for any AT. my stone brute runs both of these and tp foe as well as tp for travel. as far as fury goes I have maxed mine out well over a dozen times. running at a lower difficulty allows me to take on more foes at once which helps the ole fury bar rise.
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| 12/17/05 17:24 |
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Yes my brute misses alot with Super Strenth.. But every DM toon I've ever played missed alot.. Even my hero scrappers missed more than other scrappers I played. I'm not sure why. But with my SS it evens out with the amount of rage I generate. Cause when I do land a blow they are half dead. My KO blow has maxxed at 268dmg w/ almost full rage and no inspirations at lvl 19. I haven't tryed to max it since hitting 21 but I'm sure it will do much more. I also still use brawl atm. Have never brawled for 22dmg b4 and do so alot with this Brute.
See you on Justice w/o Justice!
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| 12/17/05 17:26 |
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I'm a Level 40 Brute with Super Strength and Invulnerbility.
Acrobatics is a must for brute so deffinatly get super jump as your travel power. Also, health and endurance are also really good for brutes.
And so far in PvP, I have only lost once in 1 vs 1 matches and thats to someone in the SG I am in. So far I have beaten him twice and he has beaten me once.
Scrappers are tough. You just need to know how to beat them. They have beaten me before but it has never been a fair fight because the guy either has someone buffing him or a healer following him around. It's annoying.
If you need help on tactics when fighting different classes, just ask me.
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KailTi
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Yes scrappers ARE ANNOYING with their jumping around and hitting me but one hit of ET tje giu is a GONER
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My Stone Brute rules when I got Granite Armor. I respeced out of the other armor selections to get the fighting power pool. Tough and Weave made a big difference. To travel I took teleportation (recall friend, Teleport) so I can get around while in Granite Armor. Of course the fitness pool is a must have. Stamina keeps everything going. Haven't taken it into Warbug just yet but in a Base Raid I recently participated in I served as a pretty good distraction.
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I have a lvl 16 Brute, he has tp for travel, tp foe and tp friend. Tp foe helps out alot =)..I just dont know if i should go stealth or not. I have to use alot of blue inspirations. I even have a good special orgin enhancement for each move like endurance rate, damage, etc..Still have to use tons of inspirations. Is this common for a Brute?
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My pool choices with my two brutes so far have been:
Fitness/Swift - Get from mob to mob faster so as to keep the fury up.
Fitness/Health - Heal faster, obviously.
Fitness/Stamina - Need endurance to power fast attacks.
Speed/Hasten - Hit more often, keep fury bar up.
Speed/Superspeed - Get to missions faster.
I'm not going with the Concealment pool because my secondary is Energy, which has a Stealth-like power (Energy Cloak). With Superspeed, it makes you almost invisible.
My theme with this character is to nail newspaper missions all the way through. I'm going to attempt to not run ANY contact missions. The character is currently level 14 (I don't have Health and Stamina yet, but it's in the works). The concept is, get in, hit things hard and often, keep the fury bar up, get out, get to the next mission, lather, rinse, repeat.
Once I get Stamina kicking in and a couple defense powers running, I'll be jacking my difficulty up little by little to see how that goes.
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Deadpan is 34 and a Dark/Dark. He has:
Fitness pool (for obvious reasons)
Leaping for travel, immob and Knockback resist also reinforces hold resist
fighting- Boxing (needed for others, also not a bad filler attack and occasional stun) and tough makes big diff, debating weave, may skip it
Prescence- playing around with this, like the idea of the fear powrs, Dark aoe fear is toggle and with so many toggles already I think a click might be a better choice, unfortunately i I have to get other powers before i can test it if i dont like i'll have to respec. I took the single target taunt, more chance to get 1 and even when it pulls more i solo a lot so in a big room gettting a few at t time still not bad also good in group of getting aggro from a baddie specially Psi Boss that i can handle but other teammates cant without getting the whole aggro which is more than i can handle well. darks play a bit different may make another later and try different approach.
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I'm contemplating my pool powers currently. Just started Slaughter 'N Pain (lvl 8 currently) and Fitness Pool is a must (all that damage tends to run down the endurance). As for travel, I believe i'm leaning towards Speed Pool. I believe I'll take hasten and SS only. Out of the Fitness pool, I'll take hurdle, Health and Stamina. I'm not worrying about being the fastest Brute alive, so swift is not an option. I just want to try the concept of moving quickly between battles to get to the mission objective.
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i just have a quick question...one toon can have as many pool power sets right? like i could make a character with one power from each set? or more than one?
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You can only select up to 4 Pool sets per toon. For instance, you can have Fitness, (any travel), Presence and Leadership. Then you are maxed out on your Pool sets you can choose from. You can select all the powers out of these 4 pools, but you can not select more than 4 Pool Power sets.
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| 04/19/06 10:29 |
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oh, thanks Bishop!
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Been awhile since I posted.. work sucks..
Anyways, I like the Fighting powerpool for Tough/Weave..
Boxing/Kicking: eh, extra attack..
Tough: Res (smash/lethal) so you don't get hit as hard if you get hit..
Weave: +def(all) so you don't get hit as often..
I have these with a stalker, En/Regen, and I can stand there and re-invis with them swinging away.. as long as you're not hit you'll hide so I've found that more defense is slightly better in stalker situations. Also, 3 slot with single origins for max effectiveness. With ED, realized that 3 slotted anything is pretty much its best effectiveness.. it's like 98% or so, vs 108 at 6 slotted? Something like that..
I don't notice a defense bonus from combat jumping once you pass level 25. It's just roughly 3.5% or so and it's not really worth it, unless you have massive regen rate then hell use it..
Unless you want to focus on your group, vs. beating on stuff avoid the Healing powerpool.. good for MM's but what use does a Brute/Stalker have healing others?
Leadership powers can help either, but the most benefits come when MM's or Corr's use them.. It's up to you, more def/acc/dam is always good..
Presence Power pool can get you in serious trouble if you can't back it up. The 2 taunts, then hold, and finally fear.. The last 2 powers are worth it, if you can take aggro so for brutes or anyone with a lot of defense, you can take these and have a ball with whole groups. Any invuln brute should take these, just for crowd control at higher levels.
That's my spiel on what I use the most and what I tend to lean toward build wise..
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Just a little update on this topic, the character I've been working on with these pool powers is currently level 32, I still have the same pool powers.
Fitness:
Swift
Health
Stamina
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Hasten
Super Speed
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i feel that brutes dont need pool powers besides fitness/travel power. You can dish damage and you cant take it and thats all u need
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| QUOTE | | i feel that brutes dont need pool powers besides fitness/travel power. You can dish damage and you cant take it and thats all u need |
This may be true, but there are going to be some very interesting Brutes builds out there that may need some other help to make it by.
I know it was mentioned that some have taken tp foe, to help with the aggro (because Brutes are not Tanks, their defences are good but not that great).
I know I'm considering Stealth as an option...however, I'm playing like I played my Scrapper, balls to the walls (and I have a little more hit points than my Scrapper did, so go figure).
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I've just recently started my brute and I'm lovin' it so far. I've chosen dark/dark cause I think I'm going to like how stable it is.
But I'm yet concerned a bit on my power-pools, for travel I'm thinking tp foe and teleport for lvl 14, and after that I start on the fitness pool, but since dark brutes get their end refill, at 16-18 I shouldn't worry on havin' stamina the moment I hit 20 just to diss all attacks right? Looks like it's going to be a bit tight all the way from 10-20 with the new skills
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I decided on the speed pool for my elec/elec brute. The hasten + Lightning Reflexes allows me to build fury in a hurry! I also chose to take assult & tactics to help out with my acc and allowing me to slot my offensive powers with only 1 acc enhancement. That way I can focus on the end draining powers and disorients and of course the ever standard fitness pool that I run on every toon I build. (they should just call it the standard pool) hurdle, health & fitness.
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opps!
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sorry sent the same thrice times for some reason!
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