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jinxycat
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ok this is sort of a micro rant in that although im only sort of asking for help, and finding out the thoughts of others on this. the whole subjects gets under my skin and consequently can lead to me ranting.
ever since I4 more specifically I5 and definately I6 my scrapper has gone from my way of escaping my squishy blaster life to a hero i could run into a crowd with and still feel safe. to nothing more than a blaster with a sword that just happens to be un stunnable and cant be knocked over.
back in the day when i 1st realised just how to slot my scrapper, Katana invuln btw. i loved it, i could take on massive groups, even +4s i could tank massive groups i could battle tank swipers way above me. i was a demi scrapper in that i could out tank some tanks.
ok I4 didnt really change that i dont think but then I5 hit.
the invuln power set took a massive hit and we all know it. since then i played my scrapper much less but still it was much harder than my blaster. but then came ED and yes i still hate it more than ever. with ED i was forced to take out half my damage res slots and so now combine with the previus NERF yes i said it NERF my scrapper is next to useless. i have no confidence in her ability to take damage in any situation anymore i dont feel comfortable in a group of 6 -1s which is pretty bad really. considering my former glory. i really miss my I3 scrapper i had her perfect. hell it only took me a day to get to 13. i was 32 within 2 weeks. now i doubt she will ever see 50.
my blaster i was able to salvage from ED as she was a little bit of an endurance hog but i used to be able to hit anything with her up to lvl 9s and 10s eith ease. due to a nerf to target drone i had to add acc enhancements. i mean damn. whats happening to this game. i see a day when it wil take a team of 8 a full attack cycle each to take down a minion of even lvl i really do.
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| 02/02/06 00:16 |
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| 02/02/06 00:21 |
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I think ED is a myth.
Prior to ED my two main heroes were a lvl 45 tanker and a lvl 30 blaster. Of course my tanker was uber. She could handle anything. And my blaster was not doing so bad either. Then ED came. Unfortunately I was just busy moving so I didn't play for two months. But when I finally got settled in I took my tanker out for a walk in PI, and I was still able to kick lvl 50 butt. Harder then it used to be, but still doable. So I assumed it was an ED thing, and I respec'ed her. No more then 3 of each. And now I am totally gimped! I did a rugged mission and had to sneak to get glowies and run. On the other hand, my blaster who of course has 6 slottted attacks, hasten and stanima rocks as never before. I have never respec'ed her, but she is even more awesome now then pre-ED.
Now what has any of this got to do with your scrapper? I think you might have made the same mistake as me and feared ED too much, and screwed up your build. I have made a couple post ED scrappers and they are only in their 20's now, but even at that level I can handle a group of +2's. So I am sure your scrapper can still do it. Maybe not 100% but not as bad as you make it sound. The fourth and fifth enhancement really still make a serious impact. Try to re-respec your scrapper on test and see how it works out.
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| 02/02/06 04:07 |
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jinxycat
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i guess i could try a different build when I7 goes up assuming we get a respec, perhaps restore the 6 slots just for the hell of it. but i still stand by my position that invuln had been kicked in the teeth prior to ED
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| 02/02/06 07:00 |
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jinxycat
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ok ok ok, i just happened to have my lvl 39 katana scrapper from the us servers with a respec. who was not made up for ED. it was better but not as good as my new katana invuln used to be. so i did the respec. i now feel much harder than i used to, ok not as good as i used to be ,but stil a damn site better than my new scrapper. ED still sux though.
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| 02/02/06 08:48 |
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BishopDon
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Honestly, I'm not sure what all the issues with ED are about. I had a lvl 50 regen scrapper and a lvl 50 invul tank that made it through and I did not respec anything on them. They still play and handle the same. Yes, some things were changed up in how I play, however, I can still tank and scrap the same way i used to.
I just believe it's more of a mental thing than anything else. Or, folks just can't fanthom changing up their play style to accommodate any new changes or adjustments.
Besides, I just refuse to change my beautiful creations and hopefully, they can stay intact throughout their (my) life with CoH.
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| 02/02/06 10:36 |
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jinxycat
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no i disagree there, there are definately changes from ED. for one i cant 1 shot snipe anything worth killing anymore with my blaster. but i guess if you leave things 6 slotted you can still get by.
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| 02/02/06 10:44 |
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| QUOTE | | no i disagree there, there are definately changes from ED. for one i cant 1 shot snipe anything worth killing anymore with my blaster. but i guess if you leave things 6 slotted you can still get by. |
Well...
For about a month after ED came out, I left most of my ice blaster's attacks 6-slotted for damage. It wasn't long before I was finding I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. By replacing 2 slots with range and accuracy, I was almost as much of a long-distance bad ass as I was before. With assault and tactics as well, I hit in the 90% range almost all the time now.
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| 02/02/06 11:16 |
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| QUOTE | | i guess i could try a different build when I7 goes up assuming we get a respec, perhaps restore the 6 slots just for the hell of it. but i still stand by my position that invuln had been kicked in the teeth prior to ED |
ED cemented it. What it did to invul was ridiculous. We used to be able to 6 slot damage resistance and defense powers. Now what is the point? The drop off in percentages is at 3 slots. I still slot 4, and now get a measly 63% out of my damage resists. 3 slots is 57%. It used to be a LOT higher. The same with attacks. Now the drop off is 96% at 3 slots. I still slot 4 there so I get 102-3%. But 4 slots used to be 133% Now 5 slots is 107%, another measely gain of 5%. Yet pre ED it would have been about 166%. remember , there was NO drop off prior to ED. So our defense would have been able to be 6 slotted, and it would have given us easily over a 100% of what it was non slotted. Now you really can't get higher then about 60% in defense. Now I never 6 slotted damage. I always 4 slotted it and added a slot of Acc. the only power I had 5 slotted for damage was knockout blow on my tank. He used to hit for almost 500 points of damage per blow. When I ran rage it was up almost to 700. Now it hits with about 300 points of damage, probably less IIRC, and under 400 with Rage toggled. ED sucks it made a HUGE dent in our powers. I used to be able to toe to toe AV's. Now for get it. I even made a copy of my level 50 tank on the test server and faught the Citadel copy AV there. On the real server prior to ED release I was able to hold my own with him. Fprget about prior to I5, I could solo him to a stand still without inspirations. I5 I had trouble, and needed a constant supply of greens or blues. Now in I6 it's just ridiculous.
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| 02/02/06 11:31 |
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I'm perhaps not the best to speak on this topic since my main has the least damage output ever...and containment made me much better.
My Warshade solos on Unyielding on a regular basis and I generally only wipe if I am hit by a sneaky Void or Quantum, the rest of the time I kill mobs, use Stygian Circle to replenish my hit points and End and get a Dark Extraction then move on, with hardly any downtime.
My Ma/SR scrapper is not too bad. She is level 30 and once I pop a few Lucks I am good to go in almost any fight.
I do feel your pain though, my friend Web Chambers a 50 Katana/SR used to Solo AVs and now needs a team, and so does my 50 fire tank friend. It seems Invul/fire took huge hits from ED, and that really sucks :/
I hope things get better for your guys with ISsey 7.
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