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The Hobbesinator

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Runners

some guy offerened to run my to Piken for 50g, 100% chance to make it as fast/if not faster than other runners (it was with my lvl 5 W/R) so i agreed because i find its cheaper to get run to forges one part at a time.

so he runs to the first portal thingy while i do some "farming"

at the next portal i start running, he doesnt go down towards the black stuff he goes across the bridge...

i got to piken the fastest way (which also takes you through 3+ groups of people) then he asked me to pay him!!!!

then he got pissed when the 2 other people who were in the group paid me the 50g.

thats my story of the best run of my life

02/02/06 21:58

Lavin Astald

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RE: Runners

lol, when I run people places I never charge, but if I did I'd have a clause saying that if you beat me there you dont have to pay, cause you got there yourself and didnt need my help.

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02/02/06 22:08

Kanna

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RE: Runners

LOL!!! Somepeople just want to avoide the Charr altogether. I guess that would be the case. Atleast you made a little profit. ^_^

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02/02/06 22:13

The Hobbesinator

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RE: Runners

i would have loved to see him in person... i love racing the runners (only if i go another way to them) then i get to see the best routes/ least people to fight

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02/02/06 22:17

Kanna

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RE: Runners

Yea, I always run from AC to LA for free. It is a fast and easy run. I can do it in under 10 minutes. Though I do always get tipped, which is nice. ^_^

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02/02/06 22:23

Dark Ritualist

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RE: Runners

I mostly run Rankor - Granite!

I charge them 750 gp for the whole run (wich is rather cheap) but when I get them to Granite most of the times I get tips worth of 5 k, even more then they had to pay me!!

When u run silent, u run fast and u don't have any problems otw people will tip you!

also a hint : Never run trough an area where u might get lost! Had a runner one day and he got so LOST running me from LA to Sanctum that I had to draw the whole way on his minimap!!

The funny part was that he payed me 2k for showing him the right directions ^^

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02/03/06 03:38

osmosisjones

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RE: Runners

i have never charged for a run, and i have done pleanty of them, the only things i have accepted are flowers, and ale, my favourite run would be from LA to Augury

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02/03/06 05:37

Xavier_Darkraven

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RE: Runners

While it is funny to outrun runners the fact is you accepted his service as a runner and he took the time to try and run you. Whether or not he was good or bad is besides the point. If he gets you there (and I assume he would if you didn't zone) then he deserves to be paid. Otherwise why not just run yourself?
I've outrun runners in the desert before when underestimating my new char but I still pay the runner. Also I usually ask if they don't mind me zoning through first. :)

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02/03/06 08:19

axe

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RE: Runners

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Very Very well said. I have to agree.

There are some times where the runner doesnt make it, one time I was getting a run from Rankor to Warcamp and the runner died, but another W/Mo made it, the original runner wanted to get paid and there was a HUGE argument that followed. I paid the original runner and got out of there, I dont have time to argue, thats why I got the run, to save time :)

I do a lot of free runs myself, they are fun and you make friends this way. My favorite run is Beacons to Droks, and I also love doing the Rankor to Warcamp run (Now that I know I can do it)[/B]

02/03/06 08:52

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Yes Pay your runners dont be jerks and run off and not pay him. I run the desert when ever i need money and its a pain when u have poeple just leave in the middle of a run and then ignore you. Us runners are trying to make a little bit of money so dont jip us. Do un to others as you want done un to u

02/03/06 09:09

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Very Very well said. I have to agree.

I disagree. The runner stated he'd get them there as fast, if not faster, as any other runner. By going the wrong way and not beating the level 5 customer 'zoning' into the destination I believe he did not live up to his end of the bargain. I'd thank him for his efforts, maybe give him some direcational pointer, but not pay him. Then again, as Piken is perfectly runeable by a level 5 for me, I wouldn't have bothered unless for laughs maybe.

02/03/06 09:33

XMegidoX

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RE: Runners

I have to disagree with everyone who said he should have paid. You should only pay for a successful run- if you get there first, he wasnt a successful runner.

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02/03/06 09:50

Grundy of Mcgill

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RE: Runners

I disagree with that last point. There are not many one leg runs out there. Most you have to go through multiple zones. So you think that if you happen to beat a runner in the last zone after they have ran you all the way there that you shouldn't pay them? That doesn't make any sense. In the first example of the run to pikens, you farmed while he got you to the new zone and then you beat him. So you basically did nothing for half of the run and then beat then runner in the second half and didn't pay. No matter how you look at it you still go a benefit from being able to just sit there and farm for half the run. You should have paid.

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02/03/06 10:07

Monks_Rule

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RE: Runners

The mere fact that someone other than the runner makes it to the portal first doesn't mean it wasn't a successful run. If the runner wasn't along, prehaps getting all the aggros that let others run by, the run may not have turned out so well. In addition, there are many a run that has been goofed up by those being ran dragging a bunch of monsters into an area where the runner is trying to recover health or energy.

If you agreed to a run, make it to your destination, then you refuse to pay, you are a scammer, plain and simple. Of course, if the runner stipulates that they won't die, or other modifiers, then they have to fulfill whatever they promise to receive their coin.

Running, and being ran, is frought with problems like this. That's why I don't run for coin and have little sympathy for those getting scammed (either runners or those being ran).

02/03/06 10:10

lani

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RE: Runners

Ok, we seem to be getting two discussions in this thread on the mutual subject on whether or not to pay a runner. One about this particular case, and one about running in general. So everyone, keep in mind while responding to other posts that they may be 'in the other discussion' than you and their argument therefore has not much bearing on yours.

02/03/06 10:17

The Hobbesinator

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RE: Runners

i pay every runner who gets me to my target.
even if he dies and we have to restart

but if the runner is lvl 20 and goes the wrong way right from the start on one of the easist runs in the game, and my lvl 5 gets there before he even reaches the tar why should i pay him? he said he could do it faster than other people but i beat him so he didnt do the service he said he would. that is the reason i didnt pay him.

i always pay my runners. i even paid 5k for a run to the forges , and the 5k was what i had been saving for my armor (i havent got the solo farming down, so when i go with a group im always the one who doesnt get a sup rune or sevral dyes... i get the bs slavagable stuff and less than max dmg blue stuff so i never have much money)

this thread started as a funny story about a retarded runner, now its a fight over runners rights lol

02/03/06 13:04

XMegidoX

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RE: Runners

Runners? rights?
If they have to run ppl to get money, they dont deserve rights XD!

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02/03/06 13:09

Julia Heartilly

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Runners? rights?
If they have to run ppl to get money, they dont deserve rights XD!

Runners don't "have to run ppl to get money", runners run people because it's a better source of money than anything else.

On weekend days the past few weekends I found I can easily make 200k+ off running on one day.
That, for me, is a good reason to be running and not doing any form of farming; because the income from farming very much relies on luck which is not the case with running.

02/03/06 13:50

Rogue

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RE: Runners

i run every now and then, but before doing the run for money i always make sure i know my route - i'm good at the desert, and most other places (but i can't do the droks run 'cause i'm a ranger lol)

I beat alot of runners when getting simple runs, but i still pay them (it's nice to have backup - and i wanted to get there, and i did)

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02/03/06 13:57

Nihil Zarathustra

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RE: Runners

Although i don't actually get run anywhere, if i did i would have the following conditions to the run. If he did make the run i would pay him. If he dies along the way and i have to finish the run, then i pay him in part. If he makes a statement like "i'm the best" and dies and i make it then i pay him a few pity gold. If someone is bragging about being the best then they are expected to live up to their name or not say it.

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02/03/06 14:01

axe

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RE: Runners

For this particular case, he stated "I am faster than anyone else" well he may still be telling the truth, the part where he may be faster and get the edge was during the first part of the run (the hardest part perhaps) which he did that part while the OP was farming and killing things, then towards the end he had a different route that wasnt as fast, but in total he may have a correct statement, I DOUBT IT but its possible.

The fact is that he got you somewhere and you didnt have to do anything, like many others have posted, there are a lot of runs where the hardest part is the begining (Lornars pass on the droks run for example) If I make it through Lornars and some R/Wa beats me to Rankor, I still earned my gold (even though I dont charge for runs) because that Ranger could not get through lornars without hex removal. Sure they are faster runners, but there are some zones that cannot be ran without certain builds.

02/03/06 14:46

osmosisjones

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RE: Runners

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Runners? rights?
If they have to run ppl to get money, they dont deserve rights XD!

off the subject of the first thread really, but running isnt the best form of profit in my opinion, unless you charge outrageous prices, thats why i do runs for free, im sure i could make a little extra profit asking for money when i run, but i consider if the person is a lower level than me (generally the case in runs) than they obviously need the money more than i do !

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