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SBOSparda
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first off im sure this is unintentionally turn into a rant so im gonna go ahead and apologize for that and as u can see i don t post alot but this is just gotta be brought up
For the last 2 days the monks have been striking in TDK and unless u have guildie groups no ones getting through there ive been on it for 2wks with my ranger now and am getting extremely aggrovated with the mission. do the monks really have the right to do that they are saying that they should be paid for their services and that they dont get any respect which i think is bull i try to say thnx to monks when they do good but then again ive met monks that have had no business even having the monk as an option to play
And now that this monk thing has started the ele's and everyone else has started to argue and strike is everywhere
IMO this is the stupidest thing and another question comes to mind *have these people ever played a ranger or mesmer for that fact* i mean it is so incredibly hard to find a group as these classes b/c everyone assumes that they are completely useless in PVE and i will aggree that they arent as "useful" in PVE as in PVP but still there services are helpful if they do there part like everyone remembers. I think the things that is being overlooked here is that this is a CO-OP just b/c ur job is most important doesnt mean that u are the most important and if ur not doing ur job adaqueately *spelling sry* people should have the right to tell you whether ur a monk ele warrior or ne other class.
Sry im not much of a writer but i hope i got my pnt across well
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| 02/25/06 13:51 |
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king kyle
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well said
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| 02/25/06 14:06 |
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king kyle
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well said
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| 02/25/06 14:07 |
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Monks_Rule
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Though I started off as a E/R, I became a Mo/N becuase no one else in my guild wanted to be a Monk. If your primary profession is a Monk, you would realize it's a lot different style of play than killing monsters. Throughout a battle, a Monk must constantly be aware of the health of ALL party members and make decisions on what spells are needed on whom and when.
Good Monks make every effort to keep ALL party members alive, even though this becomes impossible in all situations. Good Monks also tend to feel bad when a party member dies, even though there was no way to prevent that death from happening. Unfortunately, many party members will publicly denounce a Monk for not healing them, even though they put themselves into a situation where no amount of healing would have kept them alive.
As for myself, I stopped doing PUG's as a Monk almost right off the bat because too many times one or more players would get abusive even though their deaths had absolutely nothing to do with my skills as a Monk. I get a great deal of praise from my guild for how well I do, so I'm confident in my abilities. There are many battles that took a lot of work to keep my party alive so that we could win. Yes, they did their part in killing the monsters, but without a lot of healing the battle would have been lost.
So, I think that those players who's primary profession is a Monk have just gotten tired of being abused and blamed for things that are no more their fault than anyone elses. Charging for joining a party is just a way of venting. Any Monk worth their salt is able to solo farm way more coin than they could ever make from doing missions.
Monks aren't saying they are more important than any other class, they are just saying that they aren't to blame everytime someone dies. Monks are just tired of taking abuse from PUG's and are getting vocal about it. Bout time I'd say.
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| 02/25/06 21:45 |
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Wiccanflame
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Well said. +cred
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| 02/25/06 22:05 |
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Corrupted Byte
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I might say that if everyone would act mature then 99.9% of the problems in GW and in any other mmo then it would be tons better. Monks have a hard job and if you do not have a monk or played one then I would recomend it. You never know the job untill you try it yourself.
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| 02/25/06 22:14 |
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Seth Oneil
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| QUOTE | | I might say that if everyone would act mature then 99.9% of the problems in GW and in any other mmo then it would be tons better. Monks have a hard job and if you do not have a monk or played one then I would recomend it. You never know the job untill you try it yourself. |
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| 02/25/06 22:36 |
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I like that Seth Oneil that is a good one. Made me laugh.
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| 02/25/06 22:51 |
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Firey007
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Both of the big rants are right, monks have no rihgt to charge for services b/c that goes against whole idea of Guild Wars and mmos on a whole. you NEED a monk to get thorugh the game and people do bash them cause they can't heal themselves. some monks dersive to be bashed cause they are bad, as is true for any other class, who ever started this protest was probably either a good monk in a lot of bad groups or a bad monk who is a little kid who can't take critizism and was like 'I'm mad so im not gunna do any more missions and get other monks to join me'. this is a stupid idea, it is completely wrong for any class to do such a thing so monks should just get back into spirit of game, and people shjould listen to disignated leader so monks do not need to over-extend themselves. on a whole this protest is selfish and should never of happened in the first place but it has and people need to respect monks more than before and monks should not hold a stone over other peoples heads since tehy are keystone to good group.
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| 02/25/06 23:25 |
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lol completly random, but i just thought, the monk gathering for the strike doesnt even compare to the everyday gathering in Augury International dis 1:
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| 02/25/06 23:38 |
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bolt_o_lightning
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augry rock Dis 1
monks much ?
please leave me some credibility :) thank you
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| 02/26/06 01:47 |
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tmakinen
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When I heard about the strike, I took my monk (done everything there is on the PvE side atm, mostly 55HP farming these days), went to THK and helped a random PUG through the mission. Eh, counter-strike? I fully intend to do this at least once a day as long as the strike is going on. And when gathering a group, I make sure that necros, rangers and mesmers get a fair chance to join as well.
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| 02/26/06 02:20 |
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Jamnog
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actually I found my ranger breezed through the game... infact if im going to uw i only take my ranger now because alltho ive go all classes execpt mes to lvl 20 some more than twice i cant seem to do as well with any other class. as for the monk thing sure i agree people shouldnt charge to run missions or just play there part in missions. so if you have a bit more patience then a genuine monk who is just playing the game will come along and put up with a pug. i expect that the ones who guarentee their service and charge you are better monks than i am. perhaps it would mean people would be more apritiative of the monks who would never charge. if it upsets you so much why not make a monk? ive just made my second and this time ive decided not to delete it no matter what people say.
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| 02/26/06 02:22 |
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Callme X
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This is all a byproduct of monks in general not speaking up first. Normally the monks get yelled at because someone who died did something stupid (aggro too many, or cast an AOE spell that scatters the aggro around, overextend, or whatever) We dont speak up because its not considered bad if they dont die doing whatever dumb thing they did...which isnt the case, and in return when they die doing something stupid that you have saved them from before, why should they die this time? (/sarcasm)
I've rarely had people complain about my ability, unless I'm not communicating with them. Spam your energy bar if you get low, speak up and tell them to slow down if they are moving too quickly for you, tell them to not pull as many per pull, etc. If you arent telling them whats wrong, and they die its partially your fault...even if they did something stupid which induces their death.
I agree with them not wanting to do a mission and halfway through have someone do a stupid thing and kill them, but it happens sometimes - even with people you know and trust. Charging money wont make them do things any less dumb, it just makes you look bad.
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| 02/26/06 03:02 |
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gyerekember
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I think this strike is stupid.
Of course monks are an important part of a team. So are warriors, mesmers, elementalists, rangers and necros. What if warriors would start to strike? Or elementalists? I'm playing an elementalist mainly, because that's the profession that suits me best. I hardly get any thanks for my spells casted, even though my meteor and whirlwind saved some life here and there. (And because I'm usually in the support line, it's mostly the monks'...) Most PUGs never wait for me regen my energy. So should I start an elementalist strike now? Should I charge the PUGs for spells casted or energy used? It's STUPID.
It's a large community. In large communities there are nice people and thugs as well. If I don't like a party, I try to avoid THEM next time. Not everyone. I met lots of good friends in PUGs.
Leave polythics at home, and please realize that Guild Wars is a GAME that's for ENTERTAINMENT. Noone's forced to play it. If you play a monk because you like to play a monk, then why protest? If you don't like to play a monk, then why play it?!
But that's my opinion. And that's how I'll handle the game.
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| 02/26/06 03:12 |
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My Monk was my first character. And I have never been "abused" etc.
Every profession playes a part in a team, and a good tank is as important as a good monk! The strike is just rediculous, they obviously want some attention.
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| 02/26/06 03:48 |
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Xavier_Darkraven
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My first and main char is a ranger. So I know exactly what you mean about it being hard to get into groups. However I built up a group of online ranger friends and we can do pretty much any mission including THK (which I loathe) without monks. The other day I was rushing through my new (not lvl 20) ele and my friend was rushing through his new warrior (lvl 16) we took one of our Ranger friends and the rest henchmen. It was easy. This is a perfect opportunity for you to experiment with a team that doesn't rely on human controlled monks. You'll soon discover just how independant you can be with a ranger. If you haven't unlocked R/Mo path then I recommend you do it. Then read through some of the THK guides in the guides section.
This is a chance to develop your skills even furthur. Also if you get a large group of monk friends you'll probably find out that most Primary rangers have Monk characters too. Dunno why it is but we all seem to. So it's great for helping people out when you need some. :)
As for the strike. It's pretty nonsensical. Those striking seriously haven't taken the time to think the situation through. Just remember, the only truely essential member of your team is yourself. THK can be done with just henchies. As a ranger you have a more powerful tactical hand in controlling the flow of a battle with your interupts and conditions etc than a warrior or a monk can. Same as mesmers.
Hehe that's a bit long and perhaps a wee bit arrogant :p
But don't sell yourself short. As a ranger you're far more independant than you realise.
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| 02/26/06 14:53 |
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Back in the day when I still had pretty much all the missions to do, I did most of them with henchies. Hardly anyone accepted me as a nuker. Now I'm a spiker/ Nuker on a mission to get all the ele skills. People are helping me out too.
My account was hacked about 2 months ago. So I had to start over from scratch. Here's the stats:
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Ambuu Syphron (E/Mo) - Level 10
Copeland The Monk (Mo/W) - Level 8
Death Keeper (W/Mo) - Level 20
Ranger Ambuu (R/W) - Level 1
Copeland Farms Dye (E/Mo) - Level 1
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| 02/26/06 16:58 |
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