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daan333
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what do you find of iway teams? i like them becouse if 2 pets dies you get en healh regen of 8 and gain 10 energy. i always play in IWAY teams and i always win of BALANCED teams. iway teams containing:4 W/R
2 TRAPPERS (r/me)
1 TANTED NECRO (n/ELE)
1 ORDER NECRO (N/MO)
post here what you find of IWAY teams
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| 02/26/06 14:31 |
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Silo_destroyer
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i wonder what everyones going to say........
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| 02/26/06 14:34 |
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Goose1x1x1
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uhhhhhhhh dont u need a warrior or a warrior secondary to run IWAY?
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| 02/26/06 14:41 |
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CrazyTreeBoy
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I find IWAY teams to be fun and easy fame. I run a mesmer spirit of failure build with ward against melee. You're warriors and pets give me more energy than I'll ever be able to use.
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| 02/26/06 14:44 |
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mr-popo
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wat is IWAY..im hearing it alot..dunt know
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| 02/27/06 14:26 |
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IWAY = shame if used in a dumb pug
IWAY = fame if used well (MATH for example)
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| 02/27/06 14:28 |
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IWAY i had it with it... i honestly would like to get a group based on certain things i think that will work, cause doing HOH they'd never expect it
but i am a necro so MF is what i'd like to be all about but i never or hardly ever seen anyone do it anymore.
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| 02/27/06 14:35 |
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Loragon
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I think IWAY is a good beginner Hero's Build. In no way shape or form do I want to even hear of it in GvG.
It's basic. Not many variables. And it's easy to just jump into a group.
Do I like IWAY? Yes and no.
Yes because of above. And no because its overrunning Heros and makes it hard to find another group. Well I can go on and on about the "No"'s and I'm sure everyone is sick of hearing them too.,...
But Gaile said IWAY will be changed within a week. I'm very excited.
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| 02/27/06 14:37 |
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Dark Mek
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Wow im gonna sound like a total noob asking this, but, wut is IWAY? and do u get it...
cause i ussualy just play the story line part of the game, but have decided to branch out.
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| 02/27/06 19:38 |
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Anathor
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...just a build centered around the Strength-based warrior skill "I Will Avenge You!" They take pets into PvP with the intent of letting the pets die. IWAY allows the warriors to gain health regen and increased attack speed based on the number of dead allies.
There is more to the build than just this (necro's role, etc.), but basically that's the jist. It's easy to find specific info. on this build in numerous other places.
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| 02/27/06 19:46 |
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daan333
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rare that not everyone knows what iway is its mostly used in HoH
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| 03/01/06 03:02 |
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daan333
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rare that not everyone knows what iway is its mostly used in HoH
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| 03/01/06 03:02 |
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pure smite
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I don't realy like iway groups, i prefer running organised spike groups or balanced. For the people that don't know what iway is. Iway is a team that contains 4 w/r, 2 trapper, 1 order and 1 tainted. The warriors have pets and use "i will avenge you" when the pets have died.
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| 03/01/06 03:16 |
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There are two reasons why I despise IWAY. It breaks (or at least stretches to the extreme) the claimed design objective that player skill should be the main factor in deciding the outcome of a battle. As a consequence, about three out of four teams in HA are IWAYs. On the last run I had every opponent up to HoH and including was IWAY. It's worse than boring, it's much worse than annoying, it's, like, OMG where do all these mindless munchkins spawn? This game offers almost as much variety as Mine Sweeper. You flawless one, the next identical clone is waiting just around the corner. I've already learned by rote how to whack an IWAY team, thank you very much, now could we please get something more challenging?
I've never played in an IWAY team and never will.
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| 03/01/06 03:58 |
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Archange
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| QUOTE | | This game offers almost as much variety as Mine Sweeper. |
Lol... minesweeper's fun... and IWAY teams, while overly whored can be effecive if used correctly, but are also easily encountered with a good intterupt/spike team, with 6 messies and 2 monks should be able to defeat most IWAY teams, as long as the monks can keep healing and the mesmers can keep up empathy and the spell that causes damage when spells are cast on the necros/ (fragility is great here)...
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| 03/01/06 19:57 |
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Dark Mek
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wow, i just was in an iway team today...it wasnt all it was cracked up to be lol.
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| 03/02/06 19:00 |
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| QUOTE | | There are two reasons why I despise IWAY. It breaks (or at least stretches to the extreme) the claimed design objective that player skill should be the main factor in deciding the outcome of a battle. |
The thing about IWAY, or atleast why I paprticipate in IWAY groups, is that its easy fame farming. At the moment I am rank 1 with 33 fame and I would love to be a part of a blood or ranger spike build but the problem is rank discrimination. I do understand rank discrimination, to a certain extent. I know that being in a group with players that don't understand the build or have not learned to play it yet can be frustrating, but after a certain point I am just as capeable as any r3 player. Also I have defend IWAY, I do beleive there is a certain level of skill involved in the build. If you have never been a part of one, only fought againts then you may not realize how skill can be a part of such a simple build, sure it does require less coordination than a spiker build, but if you ever are part of an IWAY and fight another IWAY you will clearly see that some groups are more skilled than others, this should even be seen after you have fought multiple IWAY teams. I also believe that IWAY is a great way for players new to Hero's Ascent to learn about many aspects of PvP, different builds, and the HoH campaign. I do think pet abuse may be getting out of hand but thats another story...
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| 03/21/06 18:46 |
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NecroRebel
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I don't have a problem with IWAY the build itself, nor do I have a problem with the fact that it's most of what Americans play in HA (which is part of the reason America rarely has favor anymore). The build itself is, quite frankly, a brilliant and original creation and whoever first thought it up should be proud.
The problem with it is that so many people use it and that just displays an utter lack of creativity. They COULD go and form a group that had an original setup, but they don't. They just sit and stagnate; this problem is also evident in rangerspike, bloodspike, and EoE bomb teams. Counterbuilds have been created for them, even counterbuilds to more than one of them, yet people continue using them instead of creating countercounterbuilds and changing the game world.
Really, IWAY is fairly easy to counter; concentrated damage on a single target (and this doesn't have to be spike damage) outdoes the regeneration that IWAY itself gives, and the other characters (especially the Order nec) are frail relative to most PvP builds. Basically, it just takes a team not panicking and keeping organized to break IWAY teams. The main reason IWAY is so successful is, unfortuantely, that many teams don't keep organized when faced with one.
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| 03/21/06 19:29 |
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livingdeadgirl
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Anet nerf the way to run iway, now not only is it easily counterable, it's also just easy to beat with a crappy team... And that's why we dont have favor :\
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| 03/22/06 08:26 |
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Anathor
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Negative. America is not keeping Favor partially because many who overtook HoH with constant IWAY never learned to do anything else well. The bar has been reset, and there is a bit of a learning curve again.
Another reason for our not keeping Favor is the fact that school is in session. Many of our best and brightest are currently engaged in important matters of real life.--Notice that in the evenings we typically do gain favor, when school's not in session and people are home from work.
If our ability to hold Favor was dependent on IWAY, then we deserve to lose Favor because of our lack of flexibility and creativity.
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| 03/22/06 09:52 |
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| QUOTE | | i like them becouse if 2 pets dies you get en healh regen of 8 and gain 10 energy. i always play in IWAY teams and i always win of BALANCED teams. |
IWAY Tells a lot about the person who uses it.
| QUOTE | | i wonder what everyones going to say........ |
I should probably flame now like a madman... but I'll restrain myself. I like HA builds, in fact i love them, but IWAY is so lame and so badly nerfed that even it's own mother could not love it.
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| 03/22/06 10:00 |
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"Easy fame"? Fame isn't supposed to be easy and it's not meant to be farmed, it ruins the system. My rank used to mean something until IWAY came. After that I stopped PvPing. People even used it in TA.
There isn't anything wrong with IWAY players, they want fame, we all do. But if your doing it because you believe it to be "easy fame". Why do you do it? If you really want fame, to mean something to other people then how are you gunna say you got it? IWAY? IWAY to most people (including myself) means nothing.
But if it's allowed, who's going to stop them? The only answer is ANet. They know that IWAY excist but don't want to do anything about it. Why? They believe that IWAY is counterable. Is that true? To an extent. Warrior's are meant to be strong but not abused. Although you can use Aegis etc. these arn't enough because the other teams use things such as EoE and other spirit's which mean that they are getting other sources of damage other than just them killing them, so Aegis, Wards etc. just won't do. To nerf IWAY would be to nerf EoE. That's the main skill as I have found out in many occasions.
I even got to HoH last night with a balanced group just fine. Got about 20 fame that night without using IWAY but a balanced group. We killed alot of IWAY, died vs. alot of IWAY.
My tips to beating IWAY would be:
- Kill all spirits (even a monk can do this).
- If wards, everyone try stay in them!
- Remember they have a N/Mo with Heal Party.
- Remember they have a N/E with Meteor Shower (So try not bunching too much especially in wards)
- Full trapper team!! :)
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| 03/22/06 10:08 |
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Personal i think E/N is best... What do you guys think??!!
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| 03/23/06 08:18 |
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| QUOTE | | The thing about IWAY, or atleast why I paprticipate in IWAY groups, is that its easy fame farming. |
And there, rather succinctly put, you have the very reason IWAY is bad for the game in general.
| QUOTE | | At the moment I am rank 1 with 33 fame and I would love to be a part of a blood or ranger spike build but the problem is rank discrimination. |
Do you think that farming fame with IWAY would somehow make you more proficient at playing other builds as well? And even if you use IWAY farmed fame to wiggle your way into a group which has gotten its fame by running ranger spike (and consequently, being very good at it), what are you going to do when it becomes apparent that your skill is not on par with the rest of the team? Isn't it basically freeloading for fame, then, even worse than farming it? Why don't you just assemble a team out of other rank-challenged players and run a blood spike of your own? Because your team would get your collective noses rubbed in dirt time after time, until you actually learned to play it properly.
There is one good thing about IWAY, though. Before doing GvG our guild teams always do some warm-up runs in HA (we are a large guild so the composition of the teams is not fixed) and IWAY is kind of a touchstone build. Although not specifically designed to counter it, if our GvG team doesn't flawless the IWAYs it encounters, there's something wrong either with our build or the assignment of people to different slots, and some adjustments are made before starting the real play (i.e., GvG).
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| 03/24/06 01:39 |
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First of all, IWAY is just a build and needs to be treated as such, Ranger,Blood spike etc etc are builds aswell, IWAY should not be an exception AT ALL.
Second of all, I ask you how many of you have played in a proper IWAY group, e.g a high rank or guild led one? IWAY is not easy to play, timing is needed especially. IWAY is an easy build to make, but an extremley hard build to master.
Finally, since its a build, there will always be counters to it, just like any other. Smite ball,trapper teams, just and good balanced team will do.
Oh yeah, no body is forcing you to play IWAY, so please dont complain about something you dont really need to do or that you have never done before.
Playing this is other people's decision, so please just let them get on with it
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| 03/24/06 01:52 |
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| QUOTE | | no body is forcing you to play IWAY, so please dont complain about something you dont really need to do |
I don't think that anybody here has voiced his/her distress about being forced to play IWAY, so this is a straw man argument. It's the prevalence of that particular build that is both annoying and a sign of something being broken with the game.
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| 03/24/06 02:59 |
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IWAY= Free fame for me and my guildies
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| 04/02/06 14:58 |
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Dark Mek
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ok, wut shills and wut att points to iway wars have?
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| 04/07/06 20:41 |
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Dark Mek
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ok, wut skills and wut att points to iway wars have?
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| 04/07/06 20:42 |
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iway is a pathetic build. 4 warriors running around thinking "kill kill kill", 2 trappers and 2 necros. the only thing i love about it is that all iwayplayers are stupid and so easy to manipulate. free fame for me ftw!
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