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I just have a simple question. Is soloing effectively possible? From what I've seen so far to make any real noticable progress soloing is not possible. Yes I know you can wait til your up in levels and solo quests 2 levels or more below you, but as I'm only level 3 thats not really an option at the moment.
One more thing before I go. Do any of you think they will ever make it easier for the solo player? (BTW please leave the 'go play something else' comments out. This isn't a topic to voice how you feel about soloers, it's merely a question, thank you)
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| QUOTE | I just have a simple question. Is soloing effectively possible? From what I've seen so far to make any real noticable progress soloing is not possible. Yes I know you can wait til your up in levels and solo quests 2 levels or more below you, but as I'm only level 3 thats not really an option at the moment.
One more thing before I go. Do any of you think they will ever make it easier for the solo player? (BTW please leave the 'go play something else' comments out. This isn't a topic to voice how you feel about soloers, it's merely a question, thank you) |
Ok, 1st off you don't ever have to worry about hearing "go play something else" here. We aren't that kind of community.
As for wether they will be adding more solo friendly quests. On the official forums, there have been many rumors about in the future adding a few quests in there that are for solo play.
As of right now only a few classes have the abililty to solo, but I don't think there are a lot of quests that they can do. I've just started doing some of the House quests and they are pretty stout. And, no I haven't been running quests higher than my level.
I would like to see a bit more available for solo players actually. Not a whole lot of quests, but it would be nice to have a handful of them available at a level other than 1.
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From what I have seen soloing is possible only for the first few levels and then after that its not only less effective but questionable in contention. Allow me to clarify. If your not a thief when soloing you will miss out on the trap bonuses and secret door bonuses most likely. As well if you are a thief you will probably not be able to kill monsters as effectively as if you were a fighter. So lets say you took a fighter Thief now your dividing your levels so neither side will be as effective as if they were pure. Furthermore now that you are part fighter you will want to confront the enemy head on, because you are soloing you won't have a cleric to heal so that means you will have to either stock up on potions (quite costly $$$) or take a couple levels of cleric to compensate. Thats three classes that you are splitting between.
I am not bashing solo players I am just admitting that I have a small amount of pity for those who would go through the anguish of trying to solo, to me it sounds a bit hard. So as to the question of is it possible? I say sure, anything is possible, is it difficult I would say most definitely.
Remember no bashing just answering the question in the most effective manner I can see possible. :)
Edit: Darn hoped I would be the first to reply *snaps fingers and says shucks*
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It's only possible if you buy lots and lots of potions. Even as a cleric - you'll need em.
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| QUOTE | | Edit: Darn hoped I would be the first to reply *snaps fingers and says shucks* |
Thought I'd keep you on your toes and get up early this morning *grin*
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I haven't tried much aside from quest 1 level lower than my Paladin. That so far is doable for lower level quests with out a problem, but you do take a bit of an xp hit for being over the quests lvl. Your best bet is probably going for AC so tower shield and one handed if possible, and full plate to try and minimize damage taken, just be sure to focus first on shamans, clerics, and the like as they will tear you a new one no matter what your AC is. I personally would also recommend going either paladin, cleric or bard(dont know on this one anyone tried it?) The reason for these is you get the ability to heal yourself(although paladin later than the other two) This could save you valueable potions or wand charges. Paladins also at lvl 3 are immune to fear, a spell that can totally mess up another class's chances at soloing. You might have a fighter or barb build that has a better damage output, but that means squat when you cant attack. Out of the three that have self healing paladins also get the full BAB +1/lvl (shhh, I am NOT biased in any manner to paladins why would you even suggest that? :P) So it is possibly at least at lower levels, and going slightly under your lvl will make it pretty easy (I did waterworks one and two solo with my pali at lvl 3, and ww 3 and 4 solo with my pali at lvl 4) If you try, as said before bring pleanty of potions or wands. Take it slow, and if possible know the quest well so you know exactly what you are about to come across, trap locations, monster types etc. Anywho that is enough for now. Good luck!
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Cool thanks guys/gals. I'm coming from EQ and EQ2 so I've gotten used to soloing. As some of you may know, casual players in EQ were usually left to solo. Hardcore raiders is what that game is marketed towards (a raider I am not). They both also left a nasty taste in my mouth when it came to grouping. I met some really nasty people in my 5 years in EQ.
I do understand why people think soloing in an MMO is silly, but it's what I used to like. I could chat with my friends while doing my own thing, and not having jerks ruining my fun.
Now from what I'v seen in DDO so far, grouping is not only less stressful, but it's also much easier to find a group. My only mistake was, I didn't pick the 'unoffical server' to play with folks from here /cry
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| QUOTE | Cool thanks guys/gals. I'm coming from EQ and EQ2 so I've gotten used to soloing. As some of you may know, casual players in EQ were usually left to solo. Hardcore raiders is what that game is marketed towards (a raider I am not). They both also left a nasty taste in my mouth when it came to grouping. I met some really nasty people in my 5 years in EQ.
I do understand why people think soloing in an MMO is silly, but it's what I used to like. I could chat with my friends while doing my own thing, and not having jerks ruining my fun.
Now from what I'v seen in DDO so far, grouping is not only less stressful, but it's also much easier to find a group. My only mistake was, I didn't pick the 'unoffical server' to play with folks from here /cry
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I dont think it is silly at all to want to be able to solo, personally I like grouping better, however I have a 14 month old daughter, and although I can play some when she is napping, I might have to afk or drop suddenly when she wakes up etc etc. I like to be able to run on my own in that situation, for my own sake and for the sake of the group. I might have to just say "um sorry gotta go" right in the middle of a quest, and I dont want to do that either.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | Edit: Darn hoped I would be the first to reply *snaps fingers and says shucks* |
Thought I'd keep you on your toes and get up early this morning *grin* |
Well you succeeded...can I get down now? I have been walking on my toes all day at work..thats difficult to do with my body stature lol
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| QUOTE | | I dont think it is silly at all to want to be able to solo, personally I like grouping better, however I have a 14 month old daughter, and although I can play some when she is napping, I might have to afk or drop suddenly when she wakes up etc etc. I like to be able to run on my own in that situation, for my own sake and for the sake of the group. I might have to just say "um sorry gotta go" right in the middle of a quest, and I dont want to do that either. |
Yeah that's basically what I was saying. I too have to go AFK at random and even sometimes just log off with little time to explain why. As you can imagine some people aren't shy about telling me what they think about that (and yes I do explain before we even go).
Also you got the people who just love to toss orders in a not so nice manner. You all know the type I'm sure so I won't get into that hehe. For these reasons I refuse to ever play a healer class in a game again, but again that's another story.
Like I said though this is coming from another game and I'm hoping I don't run acrossed people like that in DDO.
On an off note, what is everyones levels on Adar? I'm debating swapping servers and starting a new character (I'm only lvl 3 on my server). I'm having a bit of trouble finding people to talk to on my server. Getting a group is easy enough, but a nice friendly chat with folks would be nice too.
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Like I said though this is coming from another game and I'm hoping I don't run acrossed people like that in DDO.
On an off note, what is everyones levels on Adar? I'm debating swapping servers and starting a new character (I'm only lvl 3 on my server). I'm having a bit of trouble finding people to talk to on my server. Getting a group is easy enough, but a nice friendly chat with folks would be nice too. |
On Adar, I'm only level 4. I don't get a chance to play as much as I would like. But when members of the guild are on there is conversation in guild chat (at least when I'm on *grin*).
As for the soloing, I don't really have any reason for sudden afk's, but sometimes I just want to go and smash stuff, and not deal with humans. And well I think it would be nice if I could
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No, you have to at least sleep that way!
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[QUOTE]Well you succeeded...can I get down now? I have been walking on my toes all day at work..thats difficult to do with my body stature lol[/QUOTE]
No, you have to at least sleep that way![/QUOTE]
Alright well its off to class for me, I would hate to have to walk around like this all day...I gots to do stairs and all :)
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Alright well its off to class for me, I would hate to have to walk around like this all day...I gots to do stairs and all :) |
Ok, you can get off your toes now... I guess.
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Hi everyone
I guess the words "We aren't that kind of community" tempted me to post :)
It seems that soloing is a bit of a hot topic in some places but unfortunately, some of us aren't able to find a group as easily as others. My time's limited anyway and not least because my husband plays more than me :p The great big lunk just lent the graphics card in my computer to a friend so he could keep playing DDO too so that excludes two accounts. Not that I mind as neither of us get that much free time and when we do, one of us has got to be with our son.
It'd be great if there were more things we could find to do solo as I'm quite liking this game, even though I've mostly watched so far. I suppose it is easy enough to find a group under normal circumstances but having to disappear when real life friends get online or worse, a 2 year old who's found he likes to shout "'pider!" and "dat doggy bit me!" down the microphone isn't really attractive to most people hehe. Last but definately not least, more solo content will stop me having to listen to a certain someone asking why they couldn't have NPC henchmen to team with for what seems like the millionth time :p He even made me look up a DnD rule book when I asked what a henchman was. I learned my lesson after that but I wish they'd do something because I swear, it's horrible to hear a grown man whine. Now I just have to hope he doesn't click here and see I posted this hehe.
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First off welcome to the site Amber! We tend to be a friendly bunch and aren't much for flaming and the like :) Although I have been known to bite from time to time :P
Feel free to ask questions because no one is going to jump down your throat and yell RTFM or anything lame like that. So enjoy your stay. :)
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| QUOTE | | On an off note, what is everyones levels on Adar? I'm debating swapping servers and starting a new character (I'm only lvl 3 on my server). I'm having a bit of trouble finding people to talk to on my server. Getting a group is easy enough, but a nice friendly chat with folks would be nice too. |
I dont know how I missed your post, but I have in my siggy down below, Faralith a lvl 5 Paladin, Sana a lvl 3 Rogue/lvl 1 fighter, Cinosa a lvl 3 sorcerer, and Kozzir a lvl 1 fighter... i'm not entirely sure what everyone else is but there is a list of names in the adar server list of those of us playing there, so if you feel like switching just send a tell if you see us on :)
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I just might switch. The server I'm on is ok, but honestly it's pretty hard to get anything done besides Waterworks there heh.
Right now I'm on dial-up and the lag is pretty bad so grouping and the like is pretty limited as to what I can do and where I can go. Waterworks for example I can't even finish because I lag to bad on Dial-up. However I'm hopefully getting Cable again soon and when i do I'll be around alot.
Thanks again all, it's nice to find a place where being a 'noob' isn't an automatic ticked to get flamed.
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| QUOTE | Hi everyone
I learned my lesson after that but I wish they'd do something because I swear, it's horrible to hear a grown man whine. Now I just have to hope he doesn't click here and see I posted this hehe. |
HI!!!! And Welcome to the site!
I just had to comment on this part. It really, really is horrible to hear a grown man cry *grin*
And I know that in Guild Wars you can use henchies, and it really is a great feature for when you do have real life keeping you from sitting down for 5 hours straight to play. It would be a nice addition. Then they wouldn't have to create a bunch of new quests that you can solo.
| QUOTE | | Thanks again all, it's nice to find a place where being a 'noob' isn't an automatic ticked to get flamed. |
The way I see it is that the only way to not be a "noob" is to be able to learn about the game. And how are you supposed to do that if you can't get an answer to your question. Also we were all new at a game once. No reason to be hard on someone for that.
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i'll try and look you up sometime. My in game name is/will be Adoniis of course =)
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I am a level 3 warforged fighter. I am on the Lhazaar server. I have soloed most (not all) of the quests that I have attempted. I have found that it is hard but not impossible to solo most of the quests I have done. A few were almost easy. And for the most part doing them at the level suggested. I have died several times trying this, but have enjoyed the fact that if I die it is my fault and not a member of my party doing something and getting me killed. For the most part the things I worry about are getting feared and traps. I have found that when feared that I can still make ranged attacks. My tactic now is when feared run around a corner and switch to ranged and pop out and hit shaman and duck back behind cover till he is dead. As for traps just pray and run through.
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Welcome to the site Moneaone.
I don't enjoy soloing myself, I just have more fun being partied with friends.
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| QUOTE | | I am a level 3 warforged fighter. I am on the Lhazaar server. I have soloed most (not all) of the quests that I have attempted. I have found that it is hard but not impossible to solo most of the quests I have done. A few were almost easy. And for the most part doing them at the level suggested. I have died several times trying this, but have enjoyed the fact that if I die it is my fault and not a member of my party doing something and getting me killed. For the most part the things I worry about are getting feared and traps. I have found that when feared that I can still make ranged attacks. My tactic now is when feared run around a corner and switch to ranged and pop out and hit shaman and duck back behind cover till he is dead. As for traps just pray and run through. |
1st off Welcome to the site!
Also what kind of character are you playing. I'm intresting in knowing the race and class of solo-able characters.
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1st off Welcome to the site!
Also what kind of character are you playing. I'm intresting in knowing the race and class of solo-able characters. |
| QUOTE (Moneaone) | | I am a level 3 warforged fighter. |
Aye welcome. Friendly bunch of folk here =)
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I tried submiting this in the guides area but failed when I ran across this thread thought this might be ok. I soloed this character in the shadows and through the mist like every good rogue likes to work ...am I right have you ever heard of a Sneak thief / assasin / ranged, going to work in the middle of the night with 2 battle crazed barbarians hootin and hollerin like wild banshees, 1 deranged tank mage lighting the night like the 4th of July, 1 Armor laden Holy man running back and forth laying hands on everyone and 2 Giant Adamantine clad hulks swinging greatswords and Halberds one from each hand ???Only on a slow nigght..I solo'd almost to lvl 5 with this character and think this is about as far as I can go, I based him from Gary Gygax' rogue/wanna-be wizard, GORD the Rogue. I love that character and I feel I play him very well, cause I up'd my UMD not sure if it makes a difference or not but I like to fizzle out scrolls and those funny lil crooked sticks that sometimes go BOOOM !!!I hate face to face fighting toe to toe not my style, I rather sneak by every mob in the dungeon just to hit that big fat chest in the corner and on my way out slit the throat of that ugly 'Named' Boss and wear his rings just for show not knowing if the make me look like a woman or talk like a kobold. Here's my dilemma love to hear your thoughts on character development and maybe some ideas on how to get more SOLO quests or tasks or jobs or hits ...whatever for those so inclined.
I'm playing a sneak-thief/assasin now at lvl 5.1 using AP's for skill bonus' . Now I'm at the point where I need some input. Greymouser -Human Rogue -STR: 12, DEX: 16, CON: 8, INT: 16, WIS: 10, CHA: 10. Not sure where to go with this but I think I'm onto something... thinking max sneaking to 50% with spring attack, tumble, dodge, weapon finesse , two weapon fighting add some nice bonus rings belts boots etc. Think 'The Greymouser' could actually be a complete blur and virtually untouchable when it comes to the art of Assasination and melee attacks ?? Like a spring loaded can of razor blades opened up in the center of a Texas Tornado.?? Just leary of making the wrong choice as far as feats and Enhancements go...not sure of the mechanics of the bonus' which stack and which don't what works what won't well if you know please add-on... thanks
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| QUOTE | | Here's my dilemma love to hear your thoughts on character development and maybe some ideas on how to get more SOLO quests or tasks or jobs or hits ...whatever for those so inclined. |
1st off Welcome to the site!
2nd I don't know much about the rogues, but I know some people here do play them and maybe can answer some of your questions about those. And we do have a handy dandy Rogue guide. (Actually two guides)
3rd There is something I can answer *grin*. The dev's have said that they do plan on making some quests in the near future that focus more on solo play. So hopefully in the next module we will get to see some of those. Also I do know that there are some classes that you can solo higher level quests with. I believe one is the Paladin, and I'm not sure how well they solo but Sorcerers really dish out some mega damage.
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I really wish they would implement some form of solo content. I also have a small child and when I am home alone with her I don't feel comfortable grouping up during her nap time as she may wake at any time.
I played EQ2 for almost a year and I must say I do NOT miss crafting or killing turtles in EL. So monotonous and boring! I'd be happy if they included some quests that were geared towards a 1-3 person group. The XP could be sub-par as could the loot but at least it would be something to do. There are times when I have 60-90 minutes to do something and I just don't bother since by the time I find a group, we get sorted out and decide what to do, I have to log before we finish a quest.
I just remind myself that the game is still very young and I'm sure some form of solo content will be introduced. On a side note, my most memorable solo experience was during the 10 day beta test. My 4th level Warforged fighter soloed Waterworks from start to finish. It was tough but never in an MMO have I had such a feeling of accomplishment!
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| QUOTE | | I really wish they would implement some form of solo content. I also have a small child and when I am home alone with her I don't feel comfortable grouping up during her nap time as she may wake at any time. |
I know what you mean, I have a 2 year old son. Sometimes I don't play because he's not napping well and so cannot make that 1 hour plus commitment if I join a group.
A few solo adventures would be just the thing to fill in those questionable time slots I sometimes have.
Currently I will do the odd solo, but as a Rogue I go through a lot of healing potions (500+gp worth at least). Sometimes the loot doesn't even cover the costs I incur during the quest. But hey, it's still fun to do even if I have to abandon the quest.
One other thing I've learned is you cannot play DDO with a 2 year old in your lap ... it's not pretty ... don't go there. ;o)
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Nakoma
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | I really wish they would implement some form of solo content. I also have a small child and when I am home alone with her I don't feel comfortable grouping up during her nap time as she may wake at any time. |
I know what you mean, I have a 2 year old son. Sometimes I don't play because he's not napping well and so cannot make that 1 hour plus commitment if I join a group.
A few solo adventures would be just the thing to fill in those questionable time slots I sometimes have.
Currently I will do the odd solo, but as a Rogue I go through a lot of healing potions (500+gp worth at least). Sometimes the loot doesn't even cover the costs I incur during the quest. But hey, it's still fun to do even if I have to abandon the quest.
One other thing I've learned is you cannot play DDO with a 2 year old in your lap ... it's not pretty ... don't go there. ;o) |
I will say this much... this is where a good guild comes into play. Most people are very understanding about it, especially when you team with them alot. One of my best in-game friends has a new addition to the household, and frequently has to step away to take care of her. He usually says something before doing it, but sometimes the situation doesn't allow him to. But we usually notice, and have picked up on it when he does... and its no big deal. A large portion of the community out there are adults, and plenty have kids or have experience with them. If you give out the warning at the start of things, most people will be cool with it.
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| 04/13/06 13:18 |
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I had a thought as I was thinking about soloing tonight, here it goes..
"Sunny what are you doing down their in that dark room, by yourself?"
"Playing DnD mom!"
"By yourself?"
"Yes mom! Ok so I get jumped by three ogres, what am I going to do? Man the plots in this adventure are so lame, I wish the GM would do his job better, Hey man I am the GM stop bashing maybe its the player(s), man this sux I am going home!"
Disclaimer: Not meaning to bash anyone, just thought it would be good to see a bit of humor in all this
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| 04/13/06 21:33 |
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