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Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Hey ive been fighting with my bro for a couple month now and im not sure if guild wars or world of warcraft is better i want to get quild wars because i dont have a lot of money but my bro wants wow cuz his friend has it.

are the expansions for quild wars free?? or do u have to buy em from a store??

plz reply this the first forum if ever posted in. . .

03/27/06 10:26

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

WoW: fight and kill 24/7 for over half a year to get a good Chest armor...fight 24/7 for another half a year to get a good weapon.

WoW is for nerds/geeks/freaks...who commit their life sitting in front of computer NON-STOP.

I recommend GW...lighter, enjoyable, better graphics.

EDIT: you pay monthly fee for WoW...you pay for the expansions in WoW. You buy the expansions for GW as well, however it is not necessary, and they are like standalone games, not true expansions.

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03/27/06 10:28

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Sorry, you DO need to buy the expansions. However, there are also free updates, and WoW has sucky graphics, or so I hear :P

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03/27/06 10:29

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

first, welcome to gameamp.
second, u have to pay for expansions in BOTH games. (WoW is bringin 1 out soon too)
WoW has huge monthly charges.
Play runescape, if you literally love it, then buy WoW otherwise GW is much better.
GW takes more strategy.
GW has a story.
GW has less grind.

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03/27/06 10:30

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the problem with WoW s that the game only gets really good when you have reached lvl 60. So that you can go on raids etc.

Good thing about GW is that there is both a storyline to it and also PvP aspects to it, so you get a nice mix of both.

03/27/06 10:34

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

The only times you'll have to pay for Guild Wars is for each Campaign. Starting after Campaign 2, there should be one every 6 months. So every 6 months, you can choose to pay 50 bucks. That's about 8 bucks per month. But it's optional, you don't have to buy if you don't want to.

I like this better than a forced monthly payment just for having the account. Even if you don't play for a month, you still have to pay for it. Plus, the people at Anet are (IMO) much more player oriented than the people at Blizzard. Anet has a great tech support, they listen to players and sometimes act upon that. We have parties! Like Holloween and Christmas Events.

I say, get Guild Wars. But that's the kind of response you'll get on a Guild Wars Fansite.

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03/27/06 10:35

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Sorry, you DO need to buy the expansions. However, there are also free updates, and WoW has sucky graphics, or so I hear :P

You don't have to buy the new Campaigns. You only need to buy them if you want to buy them.

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03/27/06 10:48

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Sorry, you DO need to buy the expansions. However, there are also free updates, and WoW has sucky graphics, or so I hear :P

WoW does have the suckzorz in the visual department, at least compared to GW

BUT

Both the games have huge differences (like the single player "story mode" verses pvp.) I say play one for now, then make some money and play the other later.

Have fun no matter what.

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03/27/06 10:51

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Anways, it all comes down to money. Guild Wars is the cheapest and alot of fun. WoW costs more with its fee basis. YOu would spend about 200 bucks year to play WoW, vs. 50-100 to play Guild Wars. Depends on if you wish to by the new campiagns or not, though they are not needed to play the game you buy.

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03/27/06 10:53

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Welcome! to the forums, if you get GW we look forward to seeing more of you.

In my opinion - WoW graphics are truly horrible, monthly fee after you've also paid for the game, too much level grinding, no choice in the kind of people you come across in the game while playing. Some of the game play itself is nice, I like the more advanced options for professions.

On the other hand - GW buy it and thats it, no monthly fee, choice is yours on expansions, graphics are great, own teams instance of an area means your less likely to come across people who will ruin the experience, great storyline.

As others have mentioned your unlikely to get any WoW over GW viewpoints on a GW fansite - in short buy GW ! :-)

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03/27/06 10:57

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

The major benefit that few people touched on (surprisingly) of GW to WoW is that GW is all about equality and balance. In WoW you will find that you are unable to access a large portion of the map or certain resources because they are controlled by high lvl players that play 24/7. In GW you will find that there aren't many hax, no dups, no cheats..bunch of easter eggs..but no cheats..And you will find that it's about skill not how long you play. You have the same opportunity to get the best equipment as anyone else. So unless you like controlling resources and laughing as people try to get past you..go with GW.

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03/27/06 11:02

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Well, I'm not gonna lie. WoW is a decent game, I like how the Perfessions and Jobs are set out. But the game is all about numbers and no skill. The game is nothing but numbers. GW on the other hand, is all about Skill, and that is why I love it so.

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03/27/06 11:07

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

First of all, welcome to Gameamp!

Right I'm going to give you a true opinion here that is un-biased.

I play both WoW and GW and they are both great games, for different reasons:

Guild Wars

Pros

*No monthly fee
*Great Skill based system
*Easy to pick up and play
*Less level Grinding
*One of the best MMO's graphically
*Use AI controlled henchmen if you dont want to group with real players
*Able to combine different classes for endless possibilities
*New addition coming next month
*Able to instantly teleport to previously visited outposts
*Great Pick-Up and play PvP, as well as strategical PvP.

Cons

*Can be very hard to make any cash due to there being no crafting/gathering skills.
*Map is Smaller than WoW.
*Less content added than WoW
*Less Armour and item skins than WoW
*Level Cap is 1/3 of WoW
*Not really any Epic 'Dungeons'
*Not able to Solo areas for your current level unless you use specific expensive builds.

World Of Warcraft

Pros

*Huge Map
*Classic fantasy theme
*Many different races and classes, each with specific skills and bonuses
*Customisation is very deep
*LOADS of different and unique items
*Despite what many say, WoW has a unique cartoony graphical style that looks nice, particularly on more powerful graphics cards
*Regular Patches with new quests, dungeons and items (free of charge)
*Alot more quests than GW
*Able to Solo
*Easy to make money with Auction houses and trade professions
*Many, many epic dungeons, including huge, 40 man dragon raids
*WoW now has great PvP ranging from 1 vs. 1 duels to 40 vs. 40 epic battlegrounds.

Cons

*Monthly fee bothers some people
*Alot of grinding and questing involved
*Slower to travel through the world as you must walk, fly, or travel via mount.
*Can be hard to find groups for dungeons at certain times
*Graphics are slightly worse than GW
*Gear based... spend more time buying armour and weapons than GW
*Despite WoW having good PvP, GW excels better in some areas.
*Takes up alot of time to play.

In conclusion:

Guild Wars is great If you like tactical play, a game easy to pick up and put down when you like with no commitments, however towards the end things can get boring (the up and coming second chapter will no doubt solve this for a while) and it can be hard to make money.

WoW is great if you like traditional classic Epic fantasy, with a humourous cartoony twist. Customisation is deep and there is alot of high level content; however grinding can be tedious and the monthly fee ($8.99) some people feel they cannot pay.

I love both games and I continue to play them both happily, god knows how I balance playing both lol.

I hope this information was useful to you, and you can trust me as I play both games and I like them equally.

Here are some nice links that will help you with your decision:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/
www.guildwars.com

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03/27/06 11:14

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Guild Wars is better

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03/27/06 11:22

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Just read this and I dont understand what you are talking about Nhil, please clarify =)

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03/27/06 11:25

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Just to clarify something: expansions for Guild Wars do not require a purchase. They're free, and ANet streams them directly to your computer. Factions is not an expansion or an update. Factions is a sequel, a complete game in and of itself that does not require the user to own the original game. Sorrow's Furnace was an expansion, because it did exactly what the word implies: It "expanded" the original game by adding a sizable new area and about a dozen new quests. Factions is a new game altogether, and no doubt there will be an expansion for it before the third chapter of Guild Wars releases.

As for which game to buy, I went for Guild Wars because there's no monthly fee. I find WoW intriguing because it seems to be heavier on classic role-playing elements than GW, which is really more action/adventure than role-playing. But, from what I hear, WoW is plagued by cheating and unsavory players, and while GW has its share of idiots and freaks, they can't negatively impact your experience if you don't want them to. And the monthly fee, well, it doesn't get much cheaper per month than GW.

03/27/06 11:28

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Just read this and I dont understand what you are talking about Nhil, please clarify =)

In WoW it is possible for a group to gain 100% control of a resource or killing ground on a server meaning noone else will get to it...

I'd clarify more but i have an exam to get to. so i'll leave it at that and finish it off when i get back.

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03/27/06 11:34

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Just read this and I dont understand what you are talking about Nhil, please clarify =)

Actually map control is fixed for either horde or alliance, players have no influence on it =)

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03/27/06 11:38

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

well the way i see it is if you have to pay for the game once (about 60$ for wow) and you have to pay about 15 bucks a month takes a lot of Money$$$$ if you are going to keep it for a while...But Guild Wars is nice because you don't have to pay monthly like every one said and it doesn't cost as much... but close...

And welcome...

03/27/06 11:52

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Ok.

Having played quiete a bit, GW played in beta and started again like a month or so and WoW from release till a month or so, I think I can make a good comparision.

PvP:
WoW has no good pvp, battlegrounds ruined world pvp, which was why I started WoW in the first place. Long queues for the battlegrounds (think 1 hour + easily).

Guild Wars pvp is also instanced, but more fun. Queues are very short, longest I had to wait is 2 minutes.

Class Balance:
WoW has awfull class balance. I played a rogue and warlock at lvl 60 both (max), in the start with my rogue I would win from most and now rogue is pretty crap because others got buffed and warlocks win from every class because they got so much buffed that they are imbalanced. Seriously, the classes really are shitty.

GW haven't noticed anything game breaking as in WoW, sure there might be some small things that need to get tweaked sometimes (like the recent iway nerf), but not major class buffing and nerfing as in WoW. You are more on even footing here. Also a big reason the pvp is more enjoyable (I don't like to play my lock and own all, since I know it's overpowered and has nothing to do with how I play).

Leveling:
Both very easy, should be no problem to level. Could have taken longer for me in both games, but I guess I am in the minority on that one.

Cost:
WoW has a monthly fee, around 12 dollar (I payed 24,95 for a 2 month gamecard here). Pay for expansion (but cheaper then a normal new game, 35 euro instead of 50 euro I heard for now, prices may chance and vary in locations).

GW no monthly fee. But you have to pay full price for expansions, with an expansion coming every 6 to 9 months (that is there goal) you will still spend lets say an average 8 euro a month (I dod 6m = 50 OR 9m = 50 12m = 100 OR 12m = 66,67 (100 + 66,67)2=8,34). It is cheaper. Also you do not have to purchase the new expansions and still keep playing what you have.

Pve:
WoW has not everything instanced, but everything worth looking more then twice too is. In GW everything is instanced.

As I said leveling pve is done fast in both, so you will reach the highend soon. In GW your more pushed towards pvp then and in WoW raiding and pvp, I adressed pvp earlier.

Endgame pve in WoW is raiding mostly, I love raiding. Getting 40 people to drop that boss, it's awesome when you get your first kill on a boss. Ofcourse after that it's farming to prepare for the next raid instance that gets relesed.

In GW there are no raids, you will be limited to small groups doing bosses, I don't feel the same pve challenge as with WoW and raiding is the only part I miss from WoW.

Story:
In WoW there certainly is a story, despite what someone else said, but you need to read the quest logs, in GW you get cutscenes and quest logs. I really like the cutscenes myself and neither stories are absolutely mindblowing, but they are both amusing.

Server stability / queue's etc etc:
In GW I haven't noticed any downtime myself, probably also because I am euro. So I am not going to judge about it here, as I have no real experience with it. Server never ever has queue's! Sometimes things get a bit laggy, but it's not so bad.

WoW there is 1 morning maintenance a week, so you can't play that time. On patchday you normally coulden't play till late in the afternoon. Queueueueueueueueueues, lots of them. Most of the servers have queue's, if a server hasn't its a low populated almost abandond one which is also pretty boring. Because of the overpopulation on those servers the lag is pretty bad with times, which ruined raiding more then just a couple of times. Granted we got a server transfer to a different server, my guild choose to do that and now we are on a low population realm with a lack of players (like I mentioned earlier).

Race / faction:
WoW has different races, which I liked, however i didnt like I couldent communicate with people from the other faction. In GW there is only human is playable race (atleast for now, might be more in the future) and you can talk with everyone.
New GW release also as factions you choose, but you can still talk with each other, it is just for pvp and pve purposes as far as I understood, will find out details on faction release.

I think this is a good unbiased overview.

Sorry for the long rant, went on a little more then supposed to, but GW fanboys etc don't help the guy and I rather let him try to see the actual differences.

edit: double post, sorry :s

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03/27/06 12:22

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Hammerite i completely disagree with what you said yes WoW is big and lots of people mainly in S.Korea China etc are addicted to it but im sure the same is for some people on GW except Gw is less big than WoW and no i have'nt heard of people commiting suicide over GW like a few have done over WoW or stabbing each other etc which im sure happends on alot/some other games but the point is calling people nerds,geeks etc is'nt fair and more importantly not nice. I myself am getting WoW in Summer as well as Rotating between Gw/GwF/Call of Duty 2/WoW now i don't care about people saying GW is free much better why pay £8.99 P/Month for a crappy game etc well for those people who take it too far and might resort to calling me a nerd etc well screw you its my option and i have my reasons.

Anyway i think both are good though i have'nt pled WoW but it seems good but all MMORPG's have their problems and i have friends and other people who think Gw sux whether or not they've palyed it some because of the portal thing and not tons of content in Chap 1 but there you go.But what i reccomend is both of you saving up for both and sharing the comp if u only use 1 or have only 1.

03/27/06 12:38

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Oh and the reason WoW has mediocre graphics on medium-max and it's bad. on minimum-low and on some models etc is because of the Sheer Size and Content in WoW comapred to Gw so if WoW had that sort of graphics etc as Gw or better then the System Requirements would be pretty big.

03/27/06 12:40

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

yeah maybe, but its an undeniable fact that in order to be someone in WoW you have to play TONS..and i MEAN tons! without godly equip you wont reach anything. and if you want to have a life, then this grind is not for you, aka WoW is not for you. and since you need grind or you won't be strong, it's an endless circle. you get it.

he asked for opinions, here is mine. you dont have to agree with it, you can do what u wish, but these are the facts. high-end PvE and PvP will be a total disappointment for you if u play WoW 3 times a week for 2-3 hours.

03/27/06 12:43

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Hey don't want to start arguements because i love Guild Wars and most of the time i look past it's flaws just like every other game i have or will get and/or i've heard about it,but i just feel i have to say this because some people don't know some facts about WoW.It has Holiday Events etc and their player support is renowned from WC/WoW players and non WC/WoW players or people who have'nt played it thatm uch at all.
And just the fact that Blizzard have continuosly kept Warcraft going through Books,Computer Games,Board Games is proof of that.:) Just thought i'd say that before people start saying things that are'nt true.

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03/27/06 12:46

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I respect your opinion just like everyone elses even if i disagree with it but after all is'nt this what the Gameamp Communtiy is about voicing your opinions as well as having a helping hand etc(not literally that's just creepy, i can wipe myself thankyou:)But me correcting people is not me being smug just sstating facts. Now i don't mean any hostility jsut to keep the air clean.

03/27/06 12:50

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

course, no one meant hostility. and...um...we are all very glad you can wipe yourself ;D

03/27/06 12:52

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

I don't want this to turn into a flame war, after all were all part of the same friendly community. However I will say this: Just because a game has a monthly fee, or doesn't have 'amazing' graphics, it doesn't mean it sucks; some people need to see that all games have flaws and strengths, and they need to back up statements (e.g. WoW SUCKS!) with facts and reasons.

I used to be small minded, I used to think that Monthly Fee= Automatically bad; but I now actually enjoy WoW, it is very different to Guild Wars but I like both games equally. And.. @ Hammerite Rozda, I'm not a 'Hardcore' player of WoW, and I gained level 30 in 1 and 1/2 weeks by playing 2-3 hours a day, sometimes 1-2 hours.

/end @ Hammerite Rozda ^^

And, if anyone flames the game again, without reason, I will give you a trial key =). Then, if you still think it sucks, I will accept it =)

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03/27/06 12:52

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

The extent of the WoW story is Horde vs Alliance: do wot u want.

I asked 2 good friend WoW players what the story is, the reply from 1 was "MMOs dont need a story" and the other was "what story!?"

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03/27/06 12:57

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

Particularly what i said about facts etc those bits, i just said it. long-winded. But Hammerite no hard feelings i jus't disagreed the most about the Nerd etc thing and btw i know some people who are low lvl and actually get someewhere in WoW. so it really does vary on what your view of 'achievement' in a game is. and I WANNA TRIAL KEY(no seriously I WANT ONE

03/27/06 12:58

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RE: Can some one help me i wanna buy Guild Wars but my bro wants WoW

i think WOW sucks but thats because of the monthly fee as im not very rich and dont have a job. if it didnt have a monthly fee i would easily buy it. my friend plays it and he loves it but he can play it cos his dad pays for the fee

03/27/06 12:59

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