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Akillies
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| What is a really good build for an W/Mo for PvP? |
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What is a really good build for an W/Mo for PvP? i'm done the game and now have nothing to do except PvP, so I want to know some good build
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| 04/01/06 10:50 |
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Genesis_Dragon
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| RE: What is a really good build for an W/Mo for PvP? |
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First I'd suggest swapping secondary to something other than Monk for PvP... Wammos are often laughed at in Arenas.
And because of that, I can't really think of any W/Mo PvP build to share with you.
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| 04/01/06 10:51 |
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Nihil Zarathustra
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| RE: What is a really good build for an W/Mo for PvP? |
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Most people will tell you that a W/Mo doesnt belong in PvP. I say just throw Str of Honor and Judge's Insight on yourself then attack with skills.
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| 04/01/06 10:51 |
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van_goghs_ear
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| RE: What is a really good build for an W/Mo for PvP? |
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what kind of pvp?
if you are talking four man arenas then I strongly suggest changing your secondary class...even if you are using it for smites such as judge's insight, and not the dreaded healing hands, healing breeze paladin, you'll still have trouble getting into groups just on the basis that you are in fact a wamo which is auto assumed to be the biggest noob class in pvp. I am not saying it necessarily is, it's just that the generalization is fairly accurate, and the population of ignorant players have generally given a bad name to the class thus making it next impossible to get into a good group in team arenas with a paladin.
On the other hand, I have seen high rank guilds running W/Mo's effectively for certain tasks.
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| 04/01/06 10:55 |
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fearfactory
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| RE: What is a really good build for an W/Mo for PvP? |
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I honestly think w/mo in PVP can be quite effective if used right. It all depends on who you are going up against. I made the standard paladin build when I first started in PVP within the past month, and many of my groups were making it all the way to a few matches in the Team Arenas from the random arenas. The problem most people see with W/Mo's is that they feel these guys are going to try and tank everything and die quickly. Yes, this does happen, but, if you are a smart player, then a W/Mo can be very effective in PvP. While other build may be better, the one thing about a W/Mo is that you must be willing to accept that self heal is about all you are going to get, so stack up on that. I used the premade build with a few changes, and it worked fine for me in PvP. (except when the other team had more than 1 warrior shutdown mesmer on their team).
I used:
Sever Artery
Gash
Galrath Slash
Sprint
Mending
Healing Hands {E}
Healing Breeze
Rez Sig
I got laughed at for putting mending on, but I owned almost every warrior I fought against. I got laughed at when I protected the monk from the 2 onrushing warriors, but they stopped laughing when the 2 warriors were dead and I was still at full health. (It's so fun to see 2 warriors bashing on you and seeing +25 or so spamming so much next to the -10)
Do what you want in PvP, make any charactor you want. Can't get a group in Team Arenas, go to the random arenas and PvP.
Don't play this game how others want you to, play how you want to.
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| 04/01/06 11:08 |
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cswella
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If you want a really kick*** build for PvP using warrior, go W/R.
Bring 'I Will Survive!' and Melandru's Resiliance. It's awesome against degen groups. Then bring a heal and a bunch of adrenaline skills.
Yeah, as a mesmer, I salivate when I see a W/Mo, since the only reason for it is enchants, so my shatter button finger twitches.
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| 04/01/06 11:13 |
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mooseyfate
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I'd suggest trying everything. W/Mo's have a bad reputation because many bad players do play them. They seem to think that the longer they personally stay alive, the better they're doing (which is only a small part of it). Just because bad people play a W/Mo, doesn't make it ineffective. But about 1 in 10 W/Mo's are very effective. Don't worry about being rejected for pick up groups either. Pick up groups suck. Find a guild with good PvP participation, and just go with guildies and friends.
Here's an example build for you: go axe and strength (both optional... axe has lots of adrenaline skills, and you could go strength or tactics). Take 6 adrenaline skills and signets. Some of the more effective PvP attack skills are ones that cause cripple or interrupt. Take rez sig (typically this is the only rez you want in PvP). Take succor. Cast succor on your monks or a monk and a caster. Succor makes your team more effective, and it's about the team, not the individual. Watch your agro bubble to make sure you stay within range of the casting monk. When you are getting pummelled, don't just continue to attack and complain that the monk didn't keep you up, run away from time to time (but within casting range of your monk).
If you prefer tanking, take restore life or resurrect. Then just do your job of living, and rez people in the group infinitely. Drokolyn Signate and stances can be used to increase your chances of getting resurrect off. I don't think this is a very effective strategy, but it's fun to do for a little while. If you face a team without interrupts or knockdowns, or ones that are ignoring the W/Mo, ( for one these aren't the best groups your facing) it can be a very satisfying win. But then again, I enjoy winning by unconventional means.
As a W/Mo you do have the advantage of solo farming in PvE to gain XP fast and therefore buy skills from other classes. But all secondaries have skills that mix well with a W primary. Just visit the builds sections of GW websites, there are tons out there. Just find a few you enjoy playing, and after you've used enough other peoples builds to get your brain jogging, start making up your own. But don't be afraid to use your PvP character slots either.
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| 04/03/06 04:54 |
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joepjens
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To everyone thinking w/mo sucks, well your partially right.
Alot of people that play them aren't very good and so people came to that believe, which is to the strenght of the ones that do it good.
I have seen 1 w/mo kill 3 of the other group in random arena when the rest of us where dead (we got done fast with target calling, but they coulden't take the w/mo down and he could because they didn't have a healer).
Sure that example those 3 are not the best players, but it's just an example and a well played w/mo surely has something going for him.
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| 04/03/06 05:12 |
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| RE: What is a really good build for an W/Mo for PvP? |
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Myself I use a pretty funny build with a W/Mo.
Attributes:
Sword: 16 (1+3)
Protection Prayers: 12
Strength: Rest (+1 Minor Rune)
Skill bar:
Sever Artery
Gash
Galrath Slash
Final Thrust
Sprint
Vital Blessing
Shield of Regen (E)
Res Signet
Equipment:
Gladiators except for boots where I take Knight's for the dmg reduction.
Superior Vigor and Superior Absorb (On Chest)
And sword with +15% dmg while enchanted. (With Fortitude and Zealous Mod)
A Protection Icon with +45HP and +5 Armor while enchanted.
How to use:
Start of with cast Vital Blessing on yourself and keep it up if it's removed. When I get on low health I use Shield of Regen and continue the fight. And sprint is for running enemies.
Good luck! =)
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| 04/03/06 05:43 |
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van_goghs_ear
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| QUOTE | Myself I use a pretty funny build with a W/Mo.
Attributes:
Sword: 16 (1+3)
Protection Prayers: 12
Strength: Rest (+1 Minor Rune)
Skill bar:
Sever Artery
Gash
Galrath Slash
Final Thrust
Sprint
Vital Blessing
Shield of Regen (E)
Res Signet
Equipment:
Gladiators except for boots where I take Knight's for the dmg reduction.
Superior Vigor and Superior Absorb (On Chest)
And sword with +15% dmg while enchanted. (With Fortitude and Zealous Mod)
A Protection Icon with +45HP and +5 Armor while enchanted.
How to use:
Start of with cast Vital Blessing on yourself and keep it up if it's removed. When I get on low health I use Shield of Regen and continue the fight. And sprint is for running enemies.
Good luck! =) |
no don't you see that this is the problem?! Warriors are final targets, they don't need things like shield of regen and vital blessing. A good warrior in PvP is not a tank, he is a damage dealer.
Stop obsessing over your hit points people, that's the monk's role. Instead learn to create a build that will actually pump out some huge damage. Anywhere above the level of Team arena you shouldn't be worrying about any kind of self heal unless it's doing damage in the process (like a necro) or you are running a build without a monk, which any decent balanced team should be able to destroy with ease, or you're a flag runner in gvg or something like that. Otherwise learn to be good at what you're supposed to be doing which is killing the enemy opponent. The sooner you stop looking at your build as being self sufficient, the sooner you will become a true team player.
I am reminded of the 1 vs 1 wamo...we all know the one who announces at the begining that he would like to 1 v 1 another warrior...this player just doesn't get what it means to be a team player as many wamos don't seem to understand. It's sad really, because it can be a good build, but no one has faith in it anymore because of all the people who have ruined it.
***THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED***
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| 04/03/06 12:49 |
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