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Blackmane_of_Fenris

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Loch Ness monster tooth

I found a cool article, which can be found here

But you can read it here instead.

"A Police officer stationed in Inverness, Scotland, has contacted Nessie investigator William McDonald with knowledge about a 4-inch barbed tooth, found in a mutilated deer carcass at Loch Ness back in March by two American college students.

Inverness, Scotland (PRWEB) June 29, 2005 -- A Police officer stationed in Inverness, Scotland, has contacted Nessie investigator William McDonald with knowledge about a 4-inch barbed tooth, found in a mutilated deer carcass at Loch Ness back in March by two American college students. The officer, who refused to be identified, stated that he was present in mid-March when the two students entered police headquarters on Perth Road in the early morning hours.

“I remember them because they had all their luggage with them. One was stocky, the other thin, his head cleanly shaven. They insisted on seeing the water bailiff, then got into an argument about an incident that happened the prior afternoon on Loch Ness. I had no idea at the time what they were after, but figured it out after speaking with a few other officers.”

The officer said he’s looked into the matter on his own time and is convinced the tooth was real and was, in fact, confiscated, but not by a water bailiff. “Could have been one of the PWLOs (Police Wildlife Liaison Officers). These are officers that police the area for wildlife crimes. I plan on speaking with our coordinator about the situation, it’d surely be nice to collect that reward money.”

William McDonald was hired in late March by the two American students upon returning from their trip. After reviewing original photos taken at the site, he conferred with several marine biologists, paleontologists, and board members of a few prestigious museums, raising $100,000 in reward money for information leading to the return of the tooth. “This is a major lead, “ said McDonald. “I expect this case to break soon.”"

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04/04/06 21:18

Nihil Zarathustra

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You know there are some things in life that should not be proven or disproven by science. Some beliefs like the existance of a soul, the existance of God (or gods), the loch ness monster, big foot, whatever.. Things like that should be left alone. What fun would the world be if everything was based on science and equations? What fun would life be if i could predict ever move you make and every thing you say? Would people be just as happy about death if they knew that oblivian waited for them? Sure we can prove or disprove the loch ness monster but isnt it better to just believe rather than know? To wonder rather than admit?

Edit: Beliefs are innocent. they are the last bits of innocence that we have left in our adult years. It's science that's dirty.

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04/04/06 21:29

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Edit: Beliefs are innocent. they are the last bits of innocence that we have left in our adult years. It's science that's dirty.

I disagree.

Most wars start threw beliefs.

And science is the way we evolve now, science is a good thing.

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04/05/06 02:12

cswella

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

Science is good, I won't argue that, but the whole of human existance is based on belief. People don't start or end civilizations based on fact, they do it based on their beliefs.

If Science were to turn all that we believe into fact, there would be no point to life. If God were proven, then there would be no choice whether to worship or to ignore. If God were disproven, the meaning of life for billions of people would cease to exist.

There are some people who base their lives on things like the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot. They say they wanna prove those things exist, but what would happen if they did? Their goals or meaning in life would end. In reality, they don't want to solve the mystery, they wanna continue to pursue it. Their goal is to collect enough data, get in the history books, and hope someone discovers it after they die.

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04/05/06 02:35

Nihil Zarathustra

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

You know here is an interesting fact for you. It is possible to write an equation for each and every aspect of your life. Write an equation for your actions when you wake up, while you go about your daily life, how you think, why you think, why you breath, why you work. I could use physics, psychology, etc to write an equation for a human life in such a way.

The only thing that can not be written in an equation or explained in psychology is why we believe. Why is it that we believe things that have even, at some point in time, have been proven false? Noone knows why people believe in a soul even though there is no proof of its existance.

It really is an interesting occurance that cant be explained. Everyone can give a reason why people have beliefs but noone can explain it scientifically.

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04/05/06 02:43

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It really is an interesting occurance that cant be explained. Everyone can give a reason why people have beliefs but noone can explain it scientifically.

Are you sure?

When people go trough hard times there chance to turn to a believe is higher.

If people get raised by (for example) extreme muslim parents they have a bigger chance to become an extreme muslim themselfs.

Believe is by a big part decided by your background (parents etc) and where you live.

Now say that there was prove that there are no gods at all, the world would be a better place in totall. Sure some people will be bummed but there would be less war.

In my eyes believes are not a good thing, I rather see everything proven.

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04/05/06 02:57

Nihil Zarathustra

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Are you sure?

Pretty sure. If you can find what part of the brain beliefs come from and where they originated, where the idea of having beliefs originated and why the need for beliefs exists and also why people dont give up beliefs easily all with numbers and figures..you'll probably become very very rich and extremely famous not to mention have alot of awards coming your way. Noone has ever been able to do it.

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04/05/06 03:01

joepjens

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Are you sure?

Well I can not do that, but as posted above you can with maths calculate the chance someone becomes a believer now a days.

Anyway, I have to go, back later this afternoon.

Will make a nicer sig when I think of something ^^

04/05/06 03:06

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

interesting topic.... moving thread to Off-Topic Forum.

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04/05/06 03:16

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

I'm with Nihil.

Of course science is a hugely important and necessary part of life, but it cannot explain everything.

Without going into beliefs, which is always a dangerous subject to broach in public, I'll ask something more simple..
So we are here, on earth: outside of that there is the solar system, and some yummy chocolate-sounding entities.. all this is in the Universe.... but what's outside of that? and what's outside of that? and what's outside... you get the idea.. We're floating in space, but what's space in..?

So if we evolved from some funny little organisms in the sea.. how did they get there?

How dull it would all be without mystery..

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04/05/06 03:39

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

Did you noticed that the tooth is actually curly at the edge, what kind of creature eats with curled teeth ? =/

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04/05/06 04:00

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

was the original artical on the 1st of april?
edit oh june 29th

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04/05/06 04:07

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

Lol, well just back to the topic of the original article: that tooth really doesn't look real, how many teeth have you seen that can float in mid-air. That hand is clearly not holding it. The Photoshopping isn't too bad, but still.

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04/05/06 04:31

Xanatos Greenbow

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

Science is important, thats the way how humanity itself improves and becomes smarter. Yet like others already said, there hundreds of quistions that science cannot answer. Like why do we exist, how, when. wath is the true meaning of the universe, earth etc. here's another example

My friends father had cancer.
Doctors could not help him anymore. he went home to die there. and suddenly after a week, he became better and he had no more cancer. Doctors could not explain and where totally shocked.
(it realy happend).

So, why can't there be a big beast of loch ness? I mean, everything is possible in this world

04/05/06 04:49

Hammerite Rozsda

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Everyone should read the book (I guess it is called) The Swarm, from Frank Shatzig. We humans think we are at the top of the food chain...well, you never know. An interesting statistic shows that we know more about outer space and the universe than our own planet. Sad I think. Read it!

04/05/06 04:55

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

I think the tooth isn't real, it looks like it's made from a fosile tooth.

I don't believe in any religion, but i do think there is something, there are much things science hasn't approved yet...

04/05/06 05:21

TarisDale

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Belief n religion, unless you all support the same religion I guess this is a war topic from an april fools joke :S

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04/05/06 05:40

maddog199

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Did you noticed that the tooth is actually curly at the edge, what kind of creature eats with curled teeth ? =/

its a hook tooth cats have it and dogs to they use it to get them good into the flesh so they prey doesnt get away and with the hook curled they got a hook that iff the aniaml would try to escape damage their flesh even more -i think-.

and on the religion thing: its not religion but our own beliefs that bugs the other humans and creatures.
ideology is your own way off thinkin whats good and bad: all those Imans shout war against the west while the koran doesnt alow any kind off war although the history off it is being wrote in blood to like all the koran is like all other religion away to "inlightment" and peace but can be used wrongly to like the crusades in the medievals its the same thing

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04/05/06 05:50

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RE: Loch Ness monster tooth

How will your beliefs be changed when we find proof of intelligent extraterrestrial life?

And what if they have no belief in the soul or religion or a god?

Science is the solution not the enemy. I have never heard of a war fought over science. I have heard of people being persecuted because of their beliefs (Darwin, Galileo).

I have no problem with religion, just don't force it on me or others with different beliefs.

Evolution is Science and Intelligent Design(Creationism) is a Belief.

Beliefs are yours not others so, don’t put them on others. This how we have got the mess we are in the US. To over simplify, “Greed is good.”-Capitalism

But about the tooth, I say AWESOME just another question to answer.

04/05/06 06:02

kyro27

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i think its holding it :-\ the root part of the tooth is fatter so it makes the other part stand up without touching the palm of his hand.

or i just dont know when somethings photoshopped -_-

04/05/06 06:09

joepjens

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Ofcourse there are things that we can not explain with science and logic (yet?).

But look at it this way:
If people did not believe in God, Allah etc etc, alot less people would have died by wars / terrorism.

People that believe try to force there believe upon others, which is a bad thing.

There is no proof for god, there is proof for evolution.

Sure as stated above how did the 1st cell get here?

But that does not mather when trying to prove evolution is real, Christians say at day 1 he made blabla, he made the humans and animals all so close together, which is not possible according to fossils found and I wonder how humans in that time would have survived the ice age.

About space, well I am not sure about that topic, but if you go a certain distance from our solar system there are no stars anymore etc etc, so there might be multiple solarsystems with planets, it's just with our current technology impossible to investigate.

I do think a believe can give a person strenght, but that is in there head, it is basic psycholicy (sp?).

Anyway, sorry for the off-topic :P

on-topic: I think it is fake, look at the white part in the direction of his thumb, you can see some pixels there, I think they used a blur tool there. And maybe there should be more shadow on the ring finger, considering the thumb is most part shadow and the tooth doesn't seem to drop shadow there in that direction.

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04/05/06 06:57

Nihil Zarathustra

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Is it real?..is it real?...you know i would hope not. If that tooth is real and there is a loch ness monster then it's clearly an intelligent creature that is capable of making decisions that aren't simply based on instinct. That would explain why we haven't been able to see it or capture it (other explination is that the investigators are just incomptent but we'll not go there :P)..You know..is it a bad thing that there is a creature as intelligent or more intelligent than humans roaming a lake area? No not really..it's only bad if it finds a way to reproduce and spread to other environments. Then humans have competition and it all goes downhill from there.

Edit: Of course i also wonder how long that myth has been around..since it is possible that the loch ness monster is in fact reproducing but in a very limited amount (DUM DUM DUMMMM)..which would mean that...i dunno what it means but still cant be good :P

Once again this is all assuming the tooth is real

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04/05/06 07:10

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**crying** thats so marvelous, what a great writer you are ! +cred that man

04/05/06 07:16

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Looks like a fake to me, theres alot of pixelation down both sides of the tooth (more noticeable above than below) and the lighting on the hand appears to be different to the tooth.

Also just seems like an odd way to hold an object of that size and shape. Think the hand was holding something but whatever it was has been modified/replaced.

The quickest way to a man's heart really is through his stomach, because then you don't have to chop through that pesky rib cage.

04/05/06 07:26

cswella

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"If God were disproven, there would be alot less deaths."

Actually, I don't think this is true. Think about it, humans fear God's Wrath. So they adhere to his rules. One of God's Commandments is to not kill. The other Religions have similar rules.

Religion isn't the reason for war, it's the excuse. You can tell this by their actions. If they truely believed in their Religion, then they wouldn't kill anyone, no matter what.

The Crusades were supposed to be the eradication of evil and Hearsay. But in reality, it was a takeover of another group of people, forcing taxes and stealing land.

Any group that is fighting and killing for a religion are just trying to find purpose and meaning in life. That's not gonna stop with the removal of a Godly being.

If tomorrow, God were disproven, people would find another reason to kill others. One that would make them forget about their greed.

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04/05/06 07:28

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ill have to corect you religion is NOT the only thing nor i scizence the only thing their r alot off things that start a war but you can NOT exclude science: religion dont start wars on their own thats like saying games makes people violent becose off the fighting and are u violent?

04/05/06 08:48

joepjens

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Actually you are right and wrong.

Alot of people use religion to justify there actions, but some religions just go that far:

008.012: "When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."

008.065: "O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding."

9:5: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

9:29: "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute [jizya tax] readily, being brought low."

Basicly a non muslim must either: become a muslim, pay money to the muslims (forgive full allah, right) or simply die according to the Qur'an (koran spelled here, but that should be the right translation).

And now a days, who does the most killing?

Terrorists and the US army would be my guess.

Terrorists are mostly Muslims and justified by the Qur'an, the US retaliates against there attacks.

True christians for example wouldn't kill others or aprove of war or something, but now a days they just bend the rules so it fits them more.

There was a forum of some christian, that got invaded by /b/ from 4chan, so I took a look and read a bit with the guy said himself. He thinks it would be a good idea to invade Iran and he bans people who say something different from him, while he sould hhow respect to others.

edit: btw If I come over as offence to any religion I am sorry, I just think it's an interesting topic to discuss.

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04/05/06 08:49

thiswonthurt

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joepjens, that is a none sense !

first, Who were the most powerful empire in the middle-age ?
answer: muslims

and if they where powerful, why did they slay every none beleiving person in the world ? and beleive me they could.

you saw an example in the movie kingdom of heaven,sallahdin told the chrisitians to leave because he didnt want alot of blood spilled ( why didnt he kill them all ?) and the christians left with their belongings
(if muslims were such barbarians and "ork beheaving humans" as you try to say, why did they invent algebra? dicovered the heart? first to use irrigation systems? improved mettalurgy? discovered new techniques to travel in seas? 1001 arabian nights? and many many more...

My friend, stereotyping done by americans to muslims, is to create a an image of an enemy to fear, and the biggest reason is to take their oil and other.(to be continued

04/05/06 11:55

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^^ i dont know if thats a justified statement, we have no idea what the hell is going on in the presidents mind, it might be for oil and it might not be. Everyone is quick to jump on a bandwagon and point fingers, i hate it. Theres alotta things that we dont know about our government and i garuntee if people somehow found out that it would cause chaos. The fact of the matter and its the sad truth is i would rather be alive and well then someone else.

04/05/06 12:09

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Science is not evil or damaging its people who are the problem...religion or ( belief ) is nothing more than a way to control the masses and it always was...even christianity was nothing more than a way to undermine Roman rule..the only people who say that things like science are evil are religious extremeists who sit at home and watch thier televangelists on TV<<~~~WHICH IM SURE WASNT INVENTED BY GOD!!...the fact is we need some answers in this life..people like to sit back and think everything is alright...you know what its not..and were going downhill fast..

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