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| why are -50 cesta required for a 55 hp monk??? |
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i understand putting superior runes that has -75 hp and has +3 attribute but a -55hp cesta??? wats so great about it???? plz tell me!
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| 04/06/06 10:39 |
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blackphoenix
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It has a -50 health mod on it. With the runes you only get down to 105 health, but the cesta gets you to 55 health.
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a -50 cesta meants that u only take 5dmg per hit instead of 10
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| QUOTE | | It has a -50 health mod on it. With the runes you only get down to 105 health, but the cesta gets you to 55 health. |
105 health is like... a little low. so if u equip the -50 cesta then ur hp will be soooooo low that your going to die in one hit!!??? why are people making 55 hp monks ??? i dont get it man
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| 04/06/06 10:44 |
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you get your health down to 55hp so they can use prot spirit and it takes a while for them to die so they are almost an invinci monk :D so instead of them taking 10hp they only loose 5hp per hit
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| 04/06/06 10:46 |
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Protective spirit let's you take no more than 10% of your hp as damage, 10% of 55hp is 5hp.
With Mending and Healing Breeze, you can easily heal yourself.
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The key is the skill Protective Spirit.
| QUOTE | Protective Spirit
For 5-19 seconds, target ally cannot lose more than 10% health due to damage from a single attack or spell. |
If you have 105 hp, a hit will do 10 damage to you as 105 * 10% = 10.5 and since we dont deal in half hp, 10. With the cesta, your hp are now at 55 so, 55 * 10% = 5.5, or 5 damage per hit.
Now if there was a way to reduce your hp even more, say down to 20, you would only be taking 2 dmg per hit. That is why you need to have the cesta. It's a difference of 5 damagae recieved per hit.
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| 04/06/06 10:47 |
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Fatal Rescue
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LOL, 55 monk use prot spirit. It makes you get no more dam then 10% of your max health, if your max health is 100, you get 10 dam every attack, if your health is 55, you get 5 dam every attack, thats why its the best to get your health as low as possible as a 55 monk.
EDIT: Damn you were just a sec to fast :p
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We use Protective Spirit, which makes all dmg recieved not hit you for more than 10% of your max HP. With blessed aura and my axe of enchanting on, it last for almost 30 seconds. With my HP at 55, i only take 5 dmg per hit and with healing breeze and mending, i have +10 heal regen, making us unkillable.
the only thing that can kill us are mesmers and necros.
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chicks boy
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ooo... thanks
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cred always welcome ;)
EDIT: :P
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cred always welcome ;)
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ok... lol... 10 credit for all
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thx :)
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| 04/06/06 11:00 |
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If you are using something that makes you take only a certain percentage of damage (protective spirit and protective boon are a % of max health, aura of the lich is a % of regular damage), then the effects of health regeneration and degeneration are exagerated. Remember how fast healing breeze healed you and conjure phantasm hurt things in pre-searing?
So while the "take only a % of damage" skills may be a wash, the lower your health, the more effective health regeneration skills become.
That's why the 55 build is mostly a PvE thing, and mostly only for farming. You choose foes that don't deal degen (or deal less than your regen). In PvP, 55 builds can drop fast to high degen. And you commonly see more degen than regen in PvP. This doen't mean that the principal can't be applied to PvP, but you have to be careful.
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| QUOTE | If you are using something that makes you take only a certain percentage of damage (protective spirit and protective boon are a % of max health, aura of the lich is a % of regular damage), then the effects of health regeneration and degeneration are exagerated. Remember how fast healing breeze healed you and conjure phantasm hurt things in pre-searing?
So while the "take only a % of damage" skills may be a wash, the lower your health, the more effective health regeneration skills become.
That's why the 55 build is mostly a PvE thing, and mostly only for farming. You choose foes that don't deal degen (or deal less than your regen). In PvP, 55 builds can drop fast to high degen. And you commonly see more degen than regen in PvP. This doen't mean that the principal can't be applied to PvP, but you have to be careful. |
yes, the only thing my monk does now is make me money so my other characters can have the items they want.
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Tor Den Mektige
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personally I like to die once first then switch my weapon to my Kephex Refuge, I have 33hp then, even easier and safer to farm, untill you kill everything, then your right back to 55 hp :P
but yea, the lower your hp, the better :) (to a certain extent, lower than 25hp gets pretty sticky and hard some times)
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| QUOTE | We use Protective Spirit, which makes all dmg recieved not hit you for more than 10% of your max HP. With blessed aura and my axe of enchanting on, it last for almost 30 seconds. With my HP at 55, i only take 5 dmg per hit and with healing breeze and mending, i have +10 heal regen, making us unkillable.
the only thing that can kill us are mesmers and necros. |
Not true. I would have died while 55hp farming the Mino's in Elona Reach (sp?) many times had it not been for Zealots Fire. That made it so they gave me a break from all the attacks. Think about it, while farming the mino's, there are normally about 10-13 on me at once. They all attack at once, you're dead. Thats why I like to use Zealots Fire. Gives me a break from all the constant attacks. Also, combine that w/ SoJ that does 44 dammage, Zealots does 22, I deal over 120 dammage by the time they get up. Spam quick spells- Prot spirit, HB, Reversal of Fortune, I love that combo.
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Did some tests- 100% Demon
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Level 20 Mo/W/Me Apollo Rosewind- Healer, Bonder, 55hp
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Level 20 W/R/Mo Ares Deathwing- Tank, Runner
Level 16 R/Mo Sniper Deathwing- Training to be a B/P, Interupt
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| 04/06/06 13:58 |
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| QUOTE | | Also, combine that w/ SoJ that does 44 dammage, Zealots does 22, I deal over 120 dammage by the time they get up. Spam quick spells- Prot spirit, HB, Reversal of Fortune, I love that combo. |
Interesting, my SoJ does 53 dmg :)
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My SoJ does 50 Dmg for 20 seconds, combined with Blessed Aura and My Fiery Flame Spitter of Enchanting, it last for 30 seconds. I run into any group of minos, trolls, or hyrdas and cast prot spirit and healing breeze over and over until they are all around me. Cast SoJ and continue to cast both healing breeze and prot spirit. The entire group usually drops before SoJ ends.
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| 04/06/06 14:06 |
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chicks boy
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soooo... ummm, my w/mo usually is my money maker in desert griffins and making 700-1.500k every 5-10 min... but which one is a better money maker? the w/mo or the mo/w ? (just a nobbie question.. )
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also I just did that quest to get the -50 hp cesta with my necro and it doesn't give you that item anymore.
EDIT: did it with my warrior and it did give me the item.. wierd though.
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| QUOTE | | soooo... ummm, my w/mo usually is my money maker in desert griffins and making 700-1.500k every 5-10 min... but which one is a better money maker? the w/mo or the mo/w ? (just a nobbie question.. ) |
how long does it take to drop all the griffins?
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| 04/06/06 14:20 |
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Oh? Perhaps they actually removed it this time...
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | soooo... ummm, my w/mo usually is my money maker in desert griffins and making 700-1.500k every 5-10 min... but which one is a better money maker? the w/mo or the mo/w ? (just a nobbie question.. ) |
how long does it take to drop all the griffins? |
wat u mean? how long do i drop the griffins???? i said i get 700-1.5k every run in prophets path in every 5-10 min......
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| QUOTE | | also I just did that quest to get the -50 hp cesta with my necro and it doesn't give you that item anymore |
I hate to correct you posmotors but they still give out the -50 offhand I just got one about a week ago. You know there are 2 quests given out by the same guy. It is the 2nd quest that gives you the -50 offhand.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | soooo... ummm, my w/mo usually is my money maker in desert griffins and making 700-1.500k every 5-10 min... but which one is a better money maker? the w/mo or the mo/w ? (just a nobbie question.. ) |
how long does it take to drop all the griffins? |
wat u mean? how long do i drop the griffins???? i said i get 700-1.5k every run in prophets path in every 5-10 min...... |
I mean, when you run into a group of griffins and aggro them all around you. Usually with an entire group of griffons attacking me (5-10), they all die within 25 seconds
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| 04/06/06 14:32 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | soooo... ummm, my w/mo usually is my money maker in desert griffins and making 700-1.500k every 5-10 min... but which one is a better money maker? the w/mo or the mo/w ? (just a nobbie question.. ) |
how long does it take to drop all the griffins? |
wat u mean? how long do i drop the griffins???? i said i get 700-1.5k every run in prophets path in every 5-10 min...... |
I mean, when you run into a group of griffins and aggro them all around you. Usually with an entire group of griffons attacking me (5-10), they all die within 25 seconds |
oooo, ya that wat i meant... griffins and monituars surround me, i attack them and only take like... 25 sec? or 40 sec? between those numbers. and i take about 15 griffins at a time so itll only take me about 5-10 min.... u get it now???
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| 04/06/06 14:36 |
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sure
what is your IGN? we can meet up in about 2 hours and kill some things, Mine is Scarlet Monroe
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| 04/06/06 14:37 |
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| QUOTE | sure
what is your IGN? we can meet up in about 2 hours and kill some things, Mine is Scarlet Monroe |
hey wats ign means, and wat do u mean meet up in 2 hours... ???
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