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sanoj21

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I laugh at your 100AL

With this new sentenial armour with 100AL coming in factions I'm sure at least a few warriors will try it. But I don't think Anet put those armours in to help warriors, it was to make mesmers more popular. A warrior with 100AL is almost indestructable to other warriors but any mesmer could still slaughter them. It would actually be funny if a warrior went out and bought this sentenial armour and got a strength rune to make the 100Al aplicable then walk into a PvP match feeling smug and then realizing that chaos damage completely ignores armour. Lol the though makes me laugh because it would be my mesmer thtowing in those empathies, chaos storms, energy burns and phantasms. Mhuhahahahaha, all warriors will bow to mesmers, unless they get withing sword range and have sprint;'then the mesmers will die.

04/16/06 14:24

bolt_o_lightning

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

i completely agree

mesmers = win against anything... except sprinting hammer warriors :( and some rangers

phantom pain
SHATTER DELUSIONS (DEEP WOUNDED)
WASTRELS WORRY
CRippling ANguish
COnjure Phantasm
Leech sig when trying to use healing sig
power spike if trying to use healing spell (W/Mo)
= dead warrior

lets not forget that AIR ELE'S will have fun against them too :)

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04/16/06 14:26

mwpeck

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

maybe in a PvP standpoint, but i personally think sentinals will be the new running armor(at least chest and legs).....think about it, if there are 20 monsters(with range) that do like 5 dmg to you and attack once a second, thats 100 dmg a second......lets say sentinals reduces that to 0 dmg on an average hit from the same guys....that will make them no problem at all.

As I said, it will probably suck in PvP though.

Update in whenever I dont feel lazy.

04/16/06 14:34

sanoj21

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i personally think sentinals will be the new running armor

Maybe Anet will put mesmers and smite monk imps on the droks run route. I think there was a new smiting skill called light javelin in the FPE, it did lots of damage and looked cool.

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04/16/06 14:37

Riotpoll

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

What you have to remember is most current warrior armours have 100AL against some types of attacks, but they have far more desirable other attributes.

04/16/06 14:39

Hammerite Rozsda

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

A mesmer was capable of taking out anything already. The armor was not meant to protect warriors against mesmers. If you think a bit this extra 20 armor warriors get with that new armor will provide them a significant damage reduction from direct damage-dealing spells, such as an Air Ele, rangers, and everything besides armor-ignoring spells and health degeneration.

To sum it up, you said absolutely nothing new because the way you can screw up a warrior right now will remain available. However they will be tougher against other types of damage. Not that useless to have 100 armor trust me.

PS: too bad most mesmer builds fail against more than 1 target...2 (smart) warriors will gank the living spirit out of a mesmer.

04/16/06 14:40

sanoj21

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What you have to remember is most current warrior armours have 100AL against some types of attacks, but they have far more desirable other attributes.

Mesmers still pwn them from a safe distance.

04/16/06 14:40

sanoj21

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I said it would make mesmering even easier because the warriors are more confident but nothing has changed.

04/16/06 14:42

Hammerite Rozsda

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I said it would make mesmering even easier because the warriors are more confident but nothing has changed.

I don't see how it is EASIER, it is same easy, same strategy =/

EDIT: typos

EDIT 2: warriors WILL (and should) feel more confident because they will be more resitant against a lot of other damage.

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04/16/06 14:42

sanoj21

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I said it would make mesmering even easier because the warriors are more confident but nothing has changed.

I don't see how it is EASIER, it is same easy, same strategy =/

EDIT: typos

Notice the bold. Confident warriors dont know they have empathy on them.(sometmes)

04/16/06 14:45

Hammerite Rozsda

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

LOL...yeah, I noticed. But those are n00b players, no doubt. People not paying attention to conditions/hexes are just dumb and should not PvP at all.

04/16/06 14:46

sanoj21

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

Well not noticing chaos storm is forgivable though, they're so small and low to the ground.

04/16/06 14:52

Hammerite Rozsda

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Well not noticing chaos storm is forgivable though, they're so small and low to the ground.

I know what you mean! So many people just KEEP STANDING in AoE spells, and die, for no reason, they could just move away! So many unexperienced and brainless people =(

04/16/06 14:56

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04/16/06 14:56

Hammerite Rozsda

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WHAT!? Many of you people are forgetting some simple facts here!

Gladiators armor = 80AL + 20AL vs physical
Thats 100AL against physical 80AL against the rest!

Wyvern armor = 85AL + 10AL vs physical
Thats 95AL against physical and 85AL against the rest!

All the new armor provides is +15AL against all damages vs Wyvern armor. One thing you lose is benefits to other aspects like damage absortion or mana.

Gladiators is still better. Most non-physical is already reduced to about the same of a ranger (70 + 30 = 100 vs 80 or 80 + 16 = 96). Are you sure that 20AL vs elemental attacks is worth not having +6-7 mana? I'm not, I think I would still rather have more mana.

Now if Gladiators and Wyvern encounter changes during the update that balance them then the new armor is seemlingly worthless. Especially when its forcing you to have 13 strength to make it worth anything vs even collectors warrior armor.

You have a totally valid point. Extra energy from Glads will still rule the game. However, +20 armor is VERY useful, it is like constant Watch Yourself (and that is useful). Also remember that although it requires 13 strength there will be new and probably very good Strength skills for warriors, so it might worth a try, we don't know yet!

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04/16/06 14:59

sanoj21

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

I'm sorry if you missed the orriginal point Chiou but I was just pointing out how mesmers will still own warrior even with 100AL. Most people don't think about how platemail can be 100AL sometimes, they just think "100AL!! AWSOMW!! I MUST have it!" These people aren't not noobs, just people who don't like to read, and there are lots of them.

Sorry if I have offended someone.

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04/16/06 15:00

Hammerite Rozsda

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I think this new Sentinel armor will be useful for the Platemail using warriors, since that armor gives no energy bonus like Glads, however constant 100 AL vs everything.

Mesmers and health degen will still own warriors of course, but as I said it is useful against Aeromancers because of their penetrating spells.
Also we are yet to see those new Strength skills.

04/16/06 15:02

GStricto

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Confident warriors dont know they have empathy on them.(sometmes)

Confident warriors are completely different from egotistical warriors. The ones with ego are the ones that rush in, get SS, empathy, and insidious parasite on them, attack 3-4 times, die, b--ch out the monk for not healing them, then leave the team.

A confident warrior on the other hand isn't a W/Mo. They are W/N or W/E or W/Me (inspired hex, resistance stances anyone?) and pay close attention to targets, energy, and status conditions.

04/16/06 15:05

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eh?

Forgive me if I didn't get the point but this seems so stupid :/
you keep saying that warrriors feel too confident with 100 AL but you yourself are feeling WAY too confident. I mean mesmers are not superior compared to other classes.

04/16/06 15:06

Hammerite Rozsda

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Hey don't dis W/MOs, they are not all newbs and egoist players. I personally love Monk spells because it makes me less relied on other Monks. Offense warriors are bad in 4v4 but are actually useful in 8v8, mixed with stances/attack skills.

04/16/06 15:08

sanoj21

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

Sorry if I mixed up confident and egoistic, but 100AL does make you feel kinda indistructable doesn't it.

04/16/06 15:08

Hammerite Rozsda

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Sorry if I mixed up confident and egoistic, but 100AL does make you feel kinda indistructable doesn't it.

Definitely, it just makes you a bit more resistant. I got your point =)

04/16/06 15:10

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Sorry if I mixed up confident and egoistic, but 100AL does make you feel kinda indistructable doesn't it.

Eh....no? I have W/Mo, so if you feel invincible good for you but don't think that everyone thinks so

EDIT:GStricto W/mo's aren't all noobs so think twice before saying such things. and if you're a W/mo you can't actually bitch at the monk since you should be able to take care of yourself atleast somehow.

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04/16/06 15:12

chuiu

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Yeah I cleared my post right before you replied. I didn't mean to go on a rant like that and felt it would have been better to clear it but everyone beat me to the punch. :P

I play a mesmer and fully agree. No class, except maybe ranger, can survive a mesmers wrath.

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04/16/06 15:15

GStricto

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

When I play my W/Me I don't think I'm invincible at all. What I do think is that I'm the best line of defense before my team gets totally murderized. If I do my job well, all the damage should come on to me, my armor (being higher) will shrug more of it, allowing my casters to fight back or monks to focus on just me (in which case I might very well be invincible, but only because I put myself and the team in a position where that is possible).

And yes, be uber confident in your mesmer, my ranger will be hunting you like a stray cat.

04/16/06 15:18

spartangod

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I play a mesmer and fully agree. No class, except maybe ranger, can survive a mesmers wrath.

actually Ritualists would be pretty hard to take down with a Mesmer.

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04/16/06 15:35

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

Mesmers have a few problems, one being that it is hard to cover every possibility - to be effective, a mesmer has to take a mix of skills, but this limits the overall power. In the 4v4, mesmers either completely dominate, or are instantly slaughtered. It really depends on what the mesmer is set up to take out.

For example, an ESurge mesmer is useless against a regen tank, simply because the regen tanks always run with 0 energy by design. However, an energy degen mesmer/necro will completely rape a regen tank. It all depends on the build.

Rarely, you will come accross a generalist mesmer that actually works well. These mesmers are quite powerful, and usually win in 4v4.

I don't have much experience GVG or HoH, so I can't speak for those areas.

As for rangers taking out mesmers, it's fairly simple why - the slow attack speed causes empathy / SS / insidious to be a fairly minor concern, and their skills (for a railgunner, at least) don't need to be activated every attack, or even more than once every 10 seconds to be effective. Also, a longbow exceeds the cast range by about 1.5x, so a wise ranger can generally keep out of range of a mesmer.

04/16/06 16:53

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As an experienced ranger, I can say that when I do PvP, i kill more mesmers than anything else. In general they jsut don't seem to view me as a target till they are already on deaths door, and with troll unguent up, i could care less about empathy.

Of course, those damn illusionary weapons mesmers are always a thorn in my side...took me a while to relize that whirling defense had no effect :-( i guess thats what pin down is for.

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04/16/06 17:00

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A confident warrior on the other hand isn't a W/Mo. They are W/N or W/E or W/Me (inspired hex, resistance stances anyone?) and pay close attention to targets, energy, and status conditions.

Well guess what Mr.Confidence, my war is w/mo for only one reason, and that is helping out allies with Purge Signet. A good W/mo can be a true blessing not to only it's woner but to the whole party, but you haven't reach that level as i see ...

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04/16/06 17:03

bolt_o_lightning

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RE: I laugh at your 100AL

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I mean mesmers are not superior compared to other classes.

wrong IMO every class is balanced. mesmers can either dominate or be dominated... the only things i fear as a mesmer is getting major health degen cuz mesmers suck at healing themselves and some monks are really bad, rangers cuz they can cripple, interrupt almost as well as mesmers (which is bad when used against mesmers) and do SICK amounts of damage, and sprint hammer warriors with lots of knockdowns.

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04/16/06 22:46

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