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Gunassay
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Ya, i havn't done ToPK for a bit, and they did that Order of the vampire nerf, so i was wondering if anyone here knew the new orders build for ToPK.
Btw i already checked the guides section, it had one but that was before the nerf, thanks.
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| 04/23/06 09:44 |
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Gunassay
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Cmon, doesn't anyone want some quick cred :)
IGN are
Unseen Killa lvl 20 N*
Pure Pwntage lvl 20 R*
Unseen Spawning lvl 20 Rt*
Unseen Haze lvl 20 W*
Unseen Shaman lvl noob Mo*
PvP Slot ><
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| 04/23/06 10:06 |
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Nemesis_Thor
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1) Awaken the Blood - damage boost
2) Order of the Vampire - damage/healing boost
3) Healing Breeze - self-healing
4) Heal Area/Blood Renewal - self-healing
5) Heal Party - party-healing
6) Succor/Free slot - monk energy
7) Blood Ritual - monk energy
8) Rebirth - rez
OR
Order of the Vampire {E}
Order of Pain
Healing Breeze
Heal Area
Heal Party
Blood Ritual
Rez Signet
Rebirth
Blood 16 (12+3+1)
Soul Reaping 12 (9+3)
Healing Prayers 9
Protection Prayers 3
im not much of a necro but this is my idea of an order :P
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.....and we all die down....beautiful as we all drown.....
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| 04/23/06 10:27 |
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Kanna
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Order of the Vampire is well, a must. And then just mix up with random blood skills. Or mix it up with some curses and toss soe points into that instaed of Reaping. As long as you have Orders, it doens't really matter what build you run.
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X-Fire = kannasesshou
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| 04/23/06 10:30 |
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UCCat
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i dont even take OoV anymore, sure, it provides a little boost to the ranger health, but not enough to prevent death from an attack anyway... i bring...
healing breeze
OoP
Blood Renewal
Blood Rit
SS/life transfer
Mark of Pain (yes, it's often AoE, but sh** dies too quick to matter)
Rebirth
whatever you want... i frequently stick in Suffering
or you can toss in a healing such as heal party or heal area
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| 04/24/06 08:47 |
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kevlar22
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wuts ToPK?
forgive me if i sound noobish cuz the builds sound relaly familiar
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| 04/25/06 20:10 |
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God is my Judge
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Tomb of Primeval kings. And yea, unless you are using a vamp, fast shooting, increased by skill attack speed bow then oov is pretty much useless. I rarely see it anymore when I do tombs.
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| 04/25/06 20:12 |
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Tomb of Primeval Kings is attached to the Dragon's Lair mission area and is another place to find green drops / ectoplasm.
All lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.
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| 04/25/06 20:15 |
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God is my Judge
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^^ And to get the cheap 1-5k greens, and the really nice 80k+ grognars defender.
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| 04/25/06 20:17 |
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kevlar22
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OHHHHHHH
u guys shouldve said tombs
lol
u guys r talking bout a orders build?
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| 04/25/06 20:24 |
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UCCat
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| QUOTE | OHHHHHHH
u guys shouldve said tombs
lol
u guys r talking bout a orders build? |
precisely
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| 04/26/06 13:46 |
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SirShaitan
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On my Order I use:
1) Order of the Vampire
2) Heal Area
3) Blood Ritual
4) Blessed Aura - only 10% but it does the job
5) Shadow Strike
6) Heal Party
7) Vampiric Gaze
8) Rebirth - rez
The blood attack skills are for those times when one of the foes breaks through. Usually thats enough to finish it or them off.
Blessed Aura usually gives me enough time with a 20% enchanted staff to keep OoV up at all times.
Heal area is for myself and slow times with the minions.
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| 04/26/06 14:03 |
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maddog199
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DONT bring succor becose each time target ally casts a spell you lose 1 energy so no way.
order off vamp
heal area
heal party
awaken the blood
life siphion
vamp gaze
rebirth
rez signet
can work i think
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| 04/26/06 14:14 |
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meumesmo
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I found out that the best build for TOPK orderis: (for me at least)
1. Order of Vampire (lots of dmg + heal)
2. Blood Renewal
3. Healing breeze
4. Awaken
5. Blood Ritual
6. Heal Area
7. Heal Party
8. Rebirth
1. Why not OoP?
Does not work anymore with OoV, and I would rather have OoV than Oop because of dmg and the heal.
2. Why not bring attack spells/skills?
Your tittle already says it ORDERS NECRO
3.With Awaken you sacrifice too much HP?
With Hb and Blood Renewal you become invincible. ( At least to sacrifice health)
4. I hardly ever use HP HA, there is no need, with oov the b/p rangers are already healing themselves and if they know what they're doing monk will have no problem healing.
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| 04/26/06 14:21 |
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maddog199
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| QUOTE | I found out that the best build for TOPK orderis: (for me at least)
1. Order of Vampire (lots of dmg + heal)
2. Blood Renewal
3. Healing breeze
4. Awaken
5. Blood Ritual
6. Heal Area
7. Heal Party
8. Rebirth
1. Why not OoP?
Does not work anymore with OoV, and I would rather have OoV than Oop because of dmg and the heal.
2. Why not bring attack spells/skills?
Your tittle already says it ORDERS NECRO
3.With Awaken you sacrifice too much HP?
With Hb and Blood Renewal you become invincible. ( At least to sacrifice health)
4. I hardly ever use HP HA, there is no need, with oov the b/p rangers are already healing themselves and if they know what they're doing monk will have no problem healing. |
yup your right creds for you!
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| 04/26/06 14:27 |
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UCCat
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| QUOTE | 1. Why not OoP?
Does not work anymore with OoV, and I would rather have OoV than Oop because of dmg and the heal. |
they are identical other than the fact, OoV gives the ranger 3-13 health each time (even if it counts for each of the 5 arrows in a barrage) in general, they dont need the heal at that point, and if they are being attacked by a grasp, the +13 does squat for them... there are better elites to carry IMHO :P
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| 04/26/06 15:00 |
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UCCat
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| QUOTE | DONT bring succor becose each time target ally casts a spell you lose 1 energy so no way.
order off vamp
heal area
heal party
awaken the blood
life siphion
vamp gaze
rebirth
rez signet
can work i think |
nope, wont stand up to a steady spamming of OoV, you have no progressive over time healing, casting heal party is a waste unless you are almost dead (dangerous) and heal area, is bad if foes are near. really advise healing breeze or blood renewal. Also, using OoV, you cant spam it, takes longer to recharge, just slightly I know, but will prohibit constant running = lost opportunities for quicker kills. (yes it works, i know, just less bang for your buck)
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| 04/26/06 15:07 |
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meumesmo
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| QUOTE | you cant spam it, takes longer to recharge, just slightly I know, but will prohibit constant running = lost opportunities for quicker kills. (yes it works, i know, just less bang for your buck)
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Maybe you're not able to spam like OoP , but I have no problem with a +20 enchtment sword/axe and the blood icon 20/20.
P.s: That's for Topk orders, IWAY is another story.
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| 04/26/06 15:24 |
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meumesmo
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| QUOTE | | they are identical other than the fact, OoV gives the ranger 3-13 health each time (even if it counts for each of the 5 arrows in a barrage) in general, they dont need the heal at that point, and if they are being attacked by a grasp, the +13 does squat for them... there are better elites to carry IMHO :P |
No, they're not identical, and gives you 19 dmg and heal if you know what u doing (blood lvl 18), 13 if your a monk trying to use orders,and do the math lets say 3 arrows x 19= 57, so yes it does squat, and first of all thats why you have mm and pets so they can tank.
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| 04/26/06 15:34 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | they are identical other than the fact, OoV gives the ranger 3-13 health each time (even if it counts for each of the 5 arrows in a barrage) in general, they dont need the heal at that point, and if they are being attacked by a grasp, the +13 does squat for them... there are better elites to carry IMHO :P |
No, they're not identical, and gives you 19 dmg and heal if you know what u doing (blood lvl 18), 13 if your a monk trying to use orders,and do the math lets say 3 arrows x 19= 57, so yes it does squat, and first of all thats why you have mm and pets so they can tank. |
read closer, i pointed out that OoV gives health, which 90% of the time a ranger doesnt need at all... if in fact things go bad, and a grasp gets thru, the additional health bonus from 1 arrow shot at the incoming target (likely you wont be barraging a group while getting beat on) doesnt accomplish squat... I still stand by my assertion that OoV is not the best elite to take anymore... in addition to the fact, it has a 5 second recharge rate... so you cant keep it 'up' every second of battle...
and pleaseeee, tell me that a taking a mm and having pets prevents a ranger from getting hit... things go quirky quite frequently, especially at the beginning of stage 2, and during the section of stage 2 that i call meteor alley, where all the dryders are, and occasionally the beginning of stage 4.
| QUOTE | | 19 dmg and heal if you know what u doing (blood lvl 18) |
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| 04/26/06 16:27 |
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| QUOTE | | ^^ And to get the cheap 1-5k greens, and the really nice 80k+ grognars defender. |
LOL, Grognar's Defender? Exact same stats as the Crimson Carpace shield and uglier skin to boot. Let's hope you meant Victo's Shield.
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| 04/26/06 16:31 |
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UCCat
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i noticed that, but didnt point it out *rolleyes* and fyi, ivicto's shield can be got for 70k :P
still a nice chunk, got another one this past weekend
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| 04/26/06 16:49 |
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kevlar22
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my orders build is n/me
ord of vamp
ord of pain
vampiric gaze
life siphon
blood ritual
arcane echo
rez signet
(any skill i sometimes use parasectic bond to des enchantments)
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| 04/26/06 20:20 |
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KaiSwiftblade
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I saw someone running a really weird idea of a build, but it was working.
Order of Pain
Blood is Power
for the rest, I didn't pay attention, but I assume they were blood skills.
When we first got into Tombs, he casted BIP a bunch, so his max life was at 1 HP. That way, he could spam OOP and BIP without death. He just stayed at the back outta attack range and we did great, until we lost the MM and Monk. I'd suggest trying it at least once.
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| 04/26/06 20:31 |
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| QUOTE | my orders build is n/me
ord of vamp
ord of pain
vampiric gaze
life siphon
blood ritual
arcane echo
rez signet
(any skill i sometimes use parasectic bond to des enchantments) |
what do you echo?
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| 04/26/06 20:38 |
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A little better build...
Blood 12 + 3(superior) +1 (head)=16
Soul Reaping 9 + 3(superior)=12
Healing 9-10 (everything else)
Skills on the bar in order.
Order of Pain, Order of Vampire, Awaken the Blood, healing breeze, heal party, blood ritual, mending, and either Vengence, rebirth, or restore life...(I'm leaning toward vengence as it gives full health/energy for 30 seconds, which is usually long enough for a group to recover if someone goes down, only takes 4 seconds unstead of 8, and doesn't zap all of your energy).
This build maintains your energy as well of your health WITHOUT the need of heal area or a monk. Your health is reduced to the low 300's which allows your +3 (mending)with +6 (healing breeze) to keep up your health. The +12 soul reaping is fantastic as you can maintain almost constantly both orders at the same time without any pause. With +19 on all the time, rangers rip through enemies.
I've not failed at with this build except when some ranger pulls like 15 enemies at once. The real "hard" areas where the enemies are high on the right and left and popups in the middle are easy because the rangers are so strong with orders.
I use the collector staff with 20/20 and added 5energy insigful head with 20% enchanting.
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| 04/27/06 21:58 |
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UCCat
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| QUOTE | | you can maintain almost constantly both orders at the same time without any pause. With +19 on all the time |
*sigh* what is the purpose of keeping both orders on at the same time? You can keep OoP up all the time as well, it recharges before it expires (whereas OoV does not) And yes, any good ranger team can rip thru Tombs if orders is maintained, i dont think it is anything special
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| 04/28/06 08:22 |
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