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skyle1089
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Why in the world did they nerf the ettins dropping runes? This was a poor mans way to make money! I liked having a quick easy and efficient farm too instead of taking 30mins-1hr for FoW plus we dont ever have favor! First griffons now ettins whats next?
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| 04/26/06 16:34 |
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aommaster523
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Let me answer that Trolls they just recently nerfed trolls and it is starting to make me mad they are nerfing Everything soon Gold items wont exsist. This means you ANET
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| 04/26/06 16:37 |
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OMG!! trolls? they nerfed them!!! i sometimes do that to get some easy cash. R u talking about there drops?
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| 04/26/06 16:45 |
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aommaster523
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Yah they reduced the good drops now you just get alot of Raven Staves
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| 04/26/06 16:47 |
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Nihil Zarathustra
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ANet doesnt nerf these things because people are making gold.. they nerf them because people are using bots in those areas.
If people do the farming normally then ANet doesnt have a problem with it (although drops might decrease if the farming code is global) but if people start bot farming the area then ANet has an obligation to take some form of action.
Keep in mind that there are too many bot farmers and sweatshop farmers for ANet to keep track of and ban and there are also (from what i've read in gaming magazines) international laws that make banning of farmers in other countries extremely difficult since some countries endorse bot farming and the gold for cash trade and ANet has to maintain the rights to sell GW in those countries which means they have to follow the laws of the country.
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| 04/26/06 16:48 |
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skyle1089
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Ok then why dont they just nerf FoW they have farmers in there( whenever we have favor) Thats what im limited to now considering every other place to get gold has been taken off the map! Plus we never have favor!
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aommaster523
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But while they are doing that there are reduceing drops and soon Greens will be more common than gold items.
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| 04/26/06 16:49 |
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When did they nerf the ettins? I mean, I knew they nerfed the ones outside of Beetletun, but did they nerf the ones outside of the Ascalon settlement? Because I just started farming those last week, and got a ton of runes. Haven't done it in a couple days, though. And secondly, about the trolls, they have been dropping mostly raven staves for a long time now. It hasn't stopped the farmers though, they just salvage the wood and make it into parchment. And now the price of parchment is down around 70g each.
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| 04/26/06 16:53 |
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skyle1089
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anybody wanna share a place where they make a decent amount of money in a decent amount of time? Wait better now A-Net will nerf it too! but seriously where to next?
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| 04/26/06 16:54 |
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aommaster523
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I agree where to if you need money Griffons-Nerfed Ettins-Nerfed Trolls-Nerfed. What now the Grawl/Devourers in Ascalon!?!
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| 04/26/06 16:55 |
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'easy way'?
i dont think there was ever meant to be an 'easy way'
if they wanted to make the game a little more like they want... they should subsidize crafting mat sales... so that at least the bottom doesnt fall out of the price of vellum, parchment, deldrimore steel, common steel, etc
at least to get these mats, hence earn cash, you have to spend a little time and effort
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| 04/26/06 16:58 |
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Nihil Zarathustra
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letsee..we still got Green farming (SF, ToPK) UW, FoW, Missions, Runs, Power leveling, 55 monking, spider runs, GW buisnesses, and last but not least...pre-searing
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| 04/26/06 16:58 |
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aommaster523
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Yes but all of the prices of greens are Plumbiting because so many people are farming them. And America has never got favor because we dont have any sucessful builds. We have favor I think 2ce a day thats it.
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| 04/26/06 17:02 |
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this constant nerfing of all areas is starting to make me reconsider buying factions... if there is no way to earn the money in game, and get the thing u need, what is the point of playing? by them nerfing every area that we farm, us ppl who do it the right way, then how are we suppose to afford anything other then farming away our lives?!?!?!?
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| 04/26/06 17:04 |
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iluvgw
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SI think we shouldnt be blaming A-Net, we should be blaming those *********'s who use bots!! The Nerf of the ettin is there fault!!
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| 04/26/06 17:09 |
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Why is anet doing something to stop the use of bots...is there only answer to this problem nerfing all farming spots???
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| 04/26/06 17:13 |
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skyle1089
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oh and i was talking about JUST warrior farms and soloing at that. I dont know about you but i can't solo SF or ToPK and i only do FoW with a friend cause its faster. The point is for the people that use bots make it harder for them to get better items, like i have heard rumors of an anti-botfarming program where if you continuously farm that same place over and over and over the drops get worse and worse and worse. It would slow down the bot farmers and give the regular joes like me a chance .
Right now it just kinda feels like my warrior is just rotting away because it isn't usefull to me at all to play him. I use my ranger for B/P ToPK and only for the ecto because the prices of the stupid greens drops what seems like everyday. im currently working on a 55 monk, but am scared because they might "tweak" the skills again then WHAM 100k+ is lost in that investment, and my main sourse of income (ettin's & griffons) are gone. So now my monk project has come to a halt till i pick it up and play hardcore to get it going again.
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| 04/26/06 17:13 |
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iluvgw
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I wonder if they'll nerf FoW and ToPK?
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| 04/26/06 17:16 |
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i wouldnt doubt it...i think they are starting to mess around with this game a bit too much..find a different way of dealing with bots and leave what we do to make money alone...i farm these spots with my warrior...im not a rich man but i have a good stash in the bank now where is the money to be made?? All my charcters are completed and since they are not streaming me any new content what am i supposed to do dance around town??
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| 04/26/06 17:24 |
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Yes Bots are evil, evil, evil. They should implement a way to kneecap the bots. But now that everything is nerfed (let us hope), at least bot-farming wise, perhaps we will actually see some price drops. Plus with the new game, no-one is going to want the old stuff anymore so it would be nice to see some things fall back to the normal "I have a day job" persons range, even if it required some serious game time on weekends ; ). I don't mind paying premo for wicked good items, but these bot-farmers are killing the market with loads of money.
I wouldn't fret too much about everything being nerfed though, Now with Factions there will be a whole new world to exploit in inventive ways. And six months after that another, and then.......
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| 04/26/06 17:28 |
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hmm you guys are pretty closed minded farming wise. There are hundreds if not thousands of ways to farm things. Has anyone ever farmed tundra giants? Grawls outside of droks? Flesh golemns? Anet nerf's things that are so well knows that it id constantly bot farmed. Which is LOGICAL. Oh and btw even thought it needs to be troll farming is not nerfed. Also there is no point of nerfing fow farming. A. you cannot bot this place beacause of needing favor, different spawn's(you know when the shadows own the driftwood's). So if the ynerfed this it would just be pointless. Also if they do farm troll farming you can always farm minitaurs.
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| 04/26/06 17:32 |
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Y'know what? I think y'all are lazy bums. Seriously. OMG, I can't slaughter hundereds of trolls in an hour now to make big bucks.
There's literally hundreds of places to farm. A few were simply exceptionally easy, bottable, and/or unrealistically rich. I've no problem with them nerfing the trolls. Or the griffons. Or the minotaurs. Or the Hydras (which are likely next). If it's easy to kill, you shouldn't get much out of it.
The way I see it, they're trying to make the amount of gold you earn proportional to the amount of work you put into it. Farming trolls isn't work. Neither was warriors farming Ettins or Griffons. Neither is the Invincimentalist farming Hydras.
This is a game of SKILL people. If you're making gold disproportinately to the amount of skill you're using, I think it's gonna get changed.
And as a final note: The update notes also said that all gold and purple item drops have been improved. Nerf? Hah!
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| 04/26/06 17:33 |
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Personally i never made big bucks off of farming trolls ive only gotten one gold drop and it was crap...the point is stop the problem which is the bots not just nerf away...and you call everyone else lazy like u havent farmed the trolls...dont say u havent because you will just be lying
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| 04/26/06 17:38 |
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| QUOTE | | dont say u havent because you will just be lying |
I havent...i only farmed d'alesio :P
As for the bots..there are too many with too many complications such as international laws that prevent ANet from launching an all out attack against them. Also keep in mind that the bot players did buy the game just like everyone else and if the EULA is modified in their countries (as a suspect it is) then it is possible that ANet doesnt have the right to stop them from botting directly. Also keep in mind that ANet is also trying to keep prices up. The more people farm the lower prices get which in turn causes a need for greater farming. If farming gets so bad that it becomes necessary then alot of people are going to quit the game.
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| 04/26/06 17:41 |
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Just related to everyday life. If everyone has an mazda rx8 or a new 2006 mustang no ones gonna want one cause everyone else has one and it's not that cool anymore. So they will become really cheap and then people won't want them at all.
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| 04/26/06 17:46 |
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Pshh. Farmed the trolls with what. My ranger? Psha, right. I farm Avarica with my ele. I did the hydras for a bit, but they weren't hard at all. Avarica can be quite a challenge. I've got almost 50 scalps now.
But that aside over. Nihil has a very good point. In some countries, they may not let ANet stop botters. If they can't do it legally with the EULA, then they need to do it in game, in which they have full control. Hey, at least we know they're trying.
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| 04/26/06 17:47 |
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I really dont see the need for all of this money to get a decent character you really only need 15k I understand that people do want 15k armor and black dye and stuff which isn't easy to get but it can be obtained thru various other ways besides farming. For FoW armour it is supposed to be a challenge to get. I farmed for a while and then i relised what am I doing and that having all that money wouldnt really do any good. I've found doing pvp stuff or going out and capping skills is more rewarding.
I guess if you really like to farm a good spot I've found is the hydras/griffins outside augry rock in skyward reach
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| 04/26/06 18:03 |
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| QUOTE | | Ok then why dont they just nerf FoW they have farmers in there( whenever we have favor) Thats what im limited to now considering every other place to get gold has been taken off the map! Plus we never have favor! |
ok that was preety dumb, WHY nerf FOW? i love fow its howI make all my money nowadays and i make quite a bit and GUESS WAHT! ITS FUN!!!!
VERY FUN!
i love going to solo fow farm teh spiders, its quite challenging and has good rewards, onceuu get the hang of it its not SO hard but you cant lapse concentration or ull die and thats a waste of money, so it has its drawbacks
if ur mad that they nerf ONE THING, FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO FARM!
trolls sucked anyways, crap drops, nothing good, now SPIDERS- Those drops KICKASS
i got a gold req 9 shadowblade max dmg the other day although it sucked :(
but anyway the end of my rant i shall say that there are BILLIONS of ways to make money, and for that toher guy who said he might not buy factions now..? WHY NOT!?
FACTIONS is going to make EVERYTHING else ALOT cheaper, AND you ALL know there is going to be another "troll cave" and another "UW" and another "griffon farm" in factions SOMEWHERE and people will exploit it to the point of nerf, and find something else, exploit, nerf... its a neverending cycle, so GET USED TO IT PLEASE
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| 04/26/06 18:04 |
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I LIKE CAPS LOCK!!!!! yes we're gonna have to find another place to make money, but thats not all of it its just that there are other ways around stopping the botters other than flat out nerfing it!
and about the factions thing, i just never really liked the Asian theme to it kinda unoriginal in my standards.
Also it's not all about the money. I LOVE going out by myself and owning it up, with a challange might i add, and the drops from the ettins make it even more fun and exciting to see what you get. Heck half of the time i didn't get squat but the suspense when a gold drops is so fun, but when it turns out to be a major it just makes you want to farm more to try it again. The best thing i got out of the ettins was a sup vig and i was extatic!
I guess im just too lazy to switch my character around and try new famrs and such just to be even more disappointed when they nerf it.
One question. How are prices on runes going to go DOWN when not as many are being farmed and sold to the merchant?
Just my 2 cents
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| 04/26/06 18:26 |
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| QUOTE | that there are other ways around stopping the botters other than flat out nerfing it!
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like what?
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| 04/26/06 18:28 |
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