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Xaviak
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I don't like the idea how ANet decided to make Factions a stand alone game instead of an add-on.
First of all, the game moves way too fast at the beginning and the tutorial isn't nearly as well planned as the first one. They just have 1 little tutorial and then just some lumps of rocks in the first city and that's it. -.-
Second of all Factions shovels up xp so fast to your arse (excuse my french) and you actually get to lvl 20 in 1-2 days! IMO that's way too fast! What's the poiint of having any lower lvls in this point?
It's a good idea to have a fast paced RPG where you don't have to spend years to lvl up but this has gone too far. :/
IMO Faction's doesn't seem that *stand-alone*...it's more like an add-on. But that's just how I feel ^^
EDIT: I mentioned this at another thread but it was so off-topic there so I made a thread of my own. :P
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| 05/01/06 15:06 |
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i agree totally...stand alone or not, this game is geared towards old prophecies players...you level up in 2 days...you are expected to BUY every skill you want that isnt given to you on the little island. if you must buy everything, how are new players going to get armor or weapons or things? i just think that anet took sorta a wrong approach to this game by making it stand alone, and to be honest, its deffiently not fair to new players who never played prophecies and had the chance to save up money and stuff....once agian, my 2 cents on factions
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I love factions so far. Remember that one of the biggest and coolest things in this game is the alliance battles and elite missions. You cannot participate in these battles if you aren't level 20.
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| 05/01/06 15:13 |
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Xaviak
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Well then this game should've been a simple add-on instead of a stand alone. I was very disappointed when I noticed how fast the lvling up was. :/
And yes the skills draina huge portion of players money. I tried playing without using my already earned funds and it was kinda annoying to find out that when I had bought all the skills that I saw necessary I couldn't afford any new armor. It really isn't nice to against all the mobs on the mainland with a 15AL armor. :/ They usually kill me with a few hits. So think how the newbies feel! :P
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| 05/01/06 15:16 |
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I do agree with you that the game is going way too fast. I havn't even gotten my ACTUAL Factions game, just the pre-order and I have a ritualist that is already a level 15 and going on 16 in about 2K xp. I have only spent about 12 hours on him, but mostly i was farming out the naga fangs for the Day of the Tengu. I do like the fact that you DON'T get to run people through the game. you have to do quests in order to get into the next areas. But technically its a good thing that they have the xp get shoveled out so fast because once you get onto the main land, your dead if your not as experienced with your character all that much. Mostly everything is a level 20 (where i have been so far) and they are hard to take down if you don't have a very good/smart group to deal with. Overall, i like factions and its add ons, but i really wish that they had added it to tyria instead of making it a continent on its own and not even being able to travel their and back w/o entering the boat at lion's arch.
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I like factions apart from getting like 1.5k xp for nearly every quest on that tiny island :)
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| 05/01/06 15:21 |
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thats another thing i don't like, the gold from teh quests is nice and all, but the XP is OUTRAGEOUS! 3K xp for a lvl 5?! thats almost a whole level for them. they should definetly reduce the amount you get, like the quests in ascalon that only give out 250, 500, 1K w/e
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| 05/01/06 15:26 |
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I'm getting about 3-3.5k Xp for each quest at the moment.
The good point is that I don't have to team up with lowbies in the future. The down point in slower lvling up is that some people want to rush it through and I hated it in the Prophecy campaing when I had to team up with lvl 10-15 in the Desert missions. :/
But I think the new xp system is too fast, though the rushers don't bug me so bad anymore. :P
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IMHO, Factions seems more detailed and the places more interesting, but it's true, the exp bulldozer is annoying. AND, you don't get skills from quests!!! That was the way I got my skills before... Now to spend that hard-earned gold... I really think that Factions should have been an add-on or expansion, or something like it, because my friend who just got it thinks it sucks because he has no idea what to do. The tutorial teaches some of the basics, and just touches on more advanced gameplay, like combos and whatnot. But the environments are a LOT nicer IMHO.
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| 05/01/06 15:31 |
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You're right, Wulfgar, the surroundings DO look nicer and the background music is awesome. But still... :P
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| 05/01/06 15:32 |
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i agree with all of you really...factions is a great game...but yeah, 3.5k xp for a simple quest is nuts...also, anyone noticed how anet is trying to compensate for the skill buying...150 gold per quest...thats great and all until you buy your first 20 skills...then you have to do 8 quests to come close (too lazy to do the math, so bare with me)...i think that anet should lower the xp on the quests, and bump up the gold gained for the new players
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| 05/01/06 15:41 |
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| QUOTE | | Second of all Factions shovels up xp so fast to your arse (excuse my french) and you actually get to lvl 20 in 1-2 days! IMO that's way too fast! What's the poiint of having any lower lvls in this point? It's a good idea to have a fast paced RPG where you don't have to spend years to lvl up but this has gone too far. :/ |
Life starts at level 20.
Up until then its all a tutorial i feel. Yea there are missions and stuff before then but the fun comes when you reach lvl 20.
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| 05/01/06 15:43 |
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Xaviak
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Yes it starts at lvl 20 but I like lvling up! Besides they shouldn't have lvls at all. Just make a tutorial with a lvl 20 char. Wouldn't that be the same thing? :P
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| 05/01/06 15:44 |
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| QUOTE | | i agree with all of you really...factions is a great game...but yeah, 3.5k xp for a simple quest is nuts...also, anyone noticed how anet is trying to compensate for the skill buying...150 gold per quest...thats great and all until you buy your first 20 skills...then you have to do 8 quests to come close (too lazy to do the math, so bare with me)...i think that anet should lower the xp on the quests, and bump up the gold gained for the new players |
That's true, and also later on your all money goes to getting skills and there's nothing left for armor.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | Second of all Factions shovels up xp so fast to your arse (excuse my french) and you actually get to lvl 20 in 1-2 days! IMO that's way too fast! What's the poiint of having any lower lvls in this point? It's a good idea to have a fast paced RPG where you don't have to spend years to lvl up but this has gone too far. :/ |
Life starts at level 20.
Up until then its all a tutorial i feel. Yea there are missions and stuff before then but the fun comes when you reach lvl 20. |
yeah...i agree with you there, but, i also think that the new players are just rushing through and not learning the basics they need to be able to be good party memembers...example- playing with a monk the other day...you could tell he was new (i first noticed the cathan armor, just an idea) but he was using terrible skills, did nothing but shout GO THIS WAY NOOB with terrible spelling and so on and aggroed anything in his way...now, you can say they would do that anyway, but, i think there might be an improvement had it been harder to get to 20
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| 05/01/06 15:46 |
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Well, they made it so that it couldn't be run, so people couldn't get to the high level areas and powerfarm. But then they give massive amounts of xp so that it's easy to get to lvl 20.
This is great for Prophecies players, as many of them are bored by the low damage output of lvl 10. They don't want to spend too much time getting to lvl 20.
But this is horrible for newer players. They don't get the kind of experience they need to learn how to play well.
What I think they shoulda done is give people who merged accounts a choice to do the current 'presearing' and start at lvl 10. Or join people with only Factions who have a longer learning curve.
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| 05/01/06 15:58 |
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It should be a stand alone game. Just a 25 dollar game tohugh. I mean think about it. Less than half as many new classes, Half as many spaces, half as much time to get to lvl 20, Half a game.
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| 05/01/06 17:46 |
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The leveling up fast is a good idea for me. I don't have the time like most of you guys have I can only play for like few hours a week maybe a bit longer on weekend if there is nothing to do. Took me 5 months to level up to 20 on the prophecy side. And another 3 months to start getting coins to make a decent armors.
I praise the developer's who develop faction, I just wish they made it possible for mission to be completed with henchman as optional. Because I hate people who quit or leave during mission or any other things "Blah".
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| 05/01/06 18:08 |
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| QUOTE | | i agree totally...stand alone or not, this game is geared towards old prophecies players...you level up in 2 days...you are expected to BUY every skill you want that isnt given to you on the little island. if you must buy everything, how are new players going to get armor or weapons or things? i just think that anet took sorta a wrong approach to this game by making it stand alone, and to be honest, its deffiently not fair to new players who never played prophecies and had the chance to save up money and stuff....once agian, my 2 cents on factions |
Well, I admit i only just got factions, so i'm not really anywhere yet, but did they remove collectors for armour and weapons? collector's ftw!!!
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| 05/01/06 18:10 |
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^^ There still is collectors armor and weapons. But they really aren't that great compared to the stuff you buy from the crafters.
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| 05/01/06 20:03 |
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People, People, People....
This game is NOT about leveling up. It is about the skills, and how you use them.
Stand Alone = Money to keep servers up and more games coming, Different Story-Line, and the availability to Not have to buy the previous Titles to play the Most Recent.
So chill out, eat a Taco or two... And Just Have Fun!
 I've seen a rich man beg. I've seen a good man sin. I've seen a tough man cry.
I've seen a loser win And a sad man grin. I heard an honest man lie.
I've seen the good side of bad And the down side of up And everything between.
You know where it ends. Yo, it usually depends on where you start.
At least that's what they say when you play the game.
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| 05/01/06 20:26 |
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I'm getting factions in 2 days but i just hope that i'm not going to be forced to farm in order to be able to succeed in factions. I dont like farming and i never want to do it.
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| 05/01/06 20:33 |
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i wouldnt really worry about having to farm just to get gold...yeah you have to buy all your skills, but a lot of the skills are just the same as the old ones, and some are really just not worth taking...the new elites on the other hand...some are very good, others just arent...same old same old, you'll just have to find your niche again
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| 05/01/06 20:40 |
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| QUOTE | | I'm getting factions in 2 days but i just hope that i'm not going to be forced to farm in order to be able to succeed in factions. I dont like farming and i never want to do it. |
don't worry you will get mush better drops jsut palying the game rather than farming here.
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| 05/01/06 20:40 |
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ok so 1st off i dont have factions but here is my 2 cents (god it hurts to use tht phrase).
ok now this was a huge mistake on anet's part. my 1st char (doing all missions ect.) took me almost a month to get 2 lvl 20. however i liked the way it progressed i learned alot and now consider myself to be a positive for my team.
now for a person who has prophecies not a huge deal but since it can be a stand alone game u have ppl who have no GW exp or money who r bieng rushed and bieng forced to pay 4 skills.
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| 05/01/06 21:00 |
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well heres my advice. If u got prophecies and are good at gw ge factions. If not buy prophecies .
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| 05/01/06 21:12 |
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imo Faction is wayyyy to short to be a stand alone expansion... If i wouldnt of played prophecie fist and only bought Faction it be on my shelf already...
But having played both games.. it's good :)
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| 05/01/06 21:22 |
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| QUOTE | | What's the poiint of having any lower lvls in this point? |
There is no point in lower levels, that is why you level up to 20 so quick. Anet has said it before, and this game is not about levels or experience points(which is usually based on how much you play), it is based on skill and the usuage of effective skill combinations.
I for one think that Factions is a great game and whether it was an expansion, or a stand alone game, i would have enjoyed it anyway.
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