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Increasing barrage damage 

I was wondering if anet can increase the damage on barrage I mean I usually hit around 25-35 base per shot using barrage and I think that is kind of low damage for an elite skill.

If anet can increase it to like 35-55 base with extra 20 percent damage on 50 above health that would be awesome.

What do you think :D
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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Whoa, lol, are you crazy? Barrage is already insane, and to be honest I don't think rangers need a new update, they're more than fine now, and they're skills are just awesome already, anyways just my opinion.




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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Well i have a barrager and it would be nice... but rangers already are pretty powerful esp in the tombs so we dont really need it.



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

If u look a while back, there was an update that did nothing but increase dmg of the ranger skills...

and btw, take say 30dmg per shot(probably vs the more heavy armoured foes) from barrage, and then multiply that by 6....u get a descent dmg output...





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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Just put down a Spirit of Favorable Winds and use a 20% chance piercing bow... U will see the damage ;) And when u need nrg, just shoot 1 or 2 barrages with a zealous bow!

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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Splinter weapon from the ritualist is also fun to add some exstra damage .




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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

yeah, like Vengefull weapon, also nice





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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Oooh, actually.

Anyone tried Wailing Weapon with barrage? That'd be interesting to see a ranger shut down up to 6 melee foes... get some mesmer/ritualists and alternate the wailing weapon while you all barrage, and I can see some tanks that never get hit.



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

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Anyone tried Wailing Weapon with barrage?


Damn, thats so smart i dont think anet even thought of that, think i smell a nerf comming soon. Damn good idea!!!

As for extra dmg with barrage....
R/N
Markmanship-12+3+1
Blood Magic-12

Barrage + 17

Favorable Winds + 6

Order of Pain + 13(+15 if you use awakin the blood)

Vampiric bowstring -5 life stealing

So you figure.

15-22+17+6+13(or 15)+ -5= OVERKILL....LOL



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

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Oooh, actually.

Anyone tried Wailing Weapon with barrage? That'd be interesting to see a ranger shut down up to 6 melee foes... get some mesmer/ritualists and alternate the wailing weapon while you all barrage, and I can see some tanks that never get hit.


how can a mesmer/ritualist use a ranger skill...

and about the wailing weapon, somone tell me what it is/does




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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

As others have already pointed out, Barrage is already a pretty overpowered skill. The power comes from the fact that you can stack a ton of different damage multipliers on top of the base damage. Take a customized 15^50 hornbow (inherent sundering) with a 5/1 vampiric bow string, lay down Favorable Winds, ask your necro buddy to use Order of Pain or Order of the Vampire (this was recently nerfed so that they no longer stack) and ask your ritualist buddy to cast some nasty weapon spell on you, like indeed Wailing Weapon, and Barrage away. Or as a single R/E, just use FW, a fiery bow string and Conjure Flame to boost the damage. Or when low on energy, switch to a zealous bow and actually gain energy on each shot!

And for those that don't know, Wailing Weapon interrupts the targets that it hits. Wailing Weapon on a couple of barrage rangers = total shutdown of enemies.



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Wailing Weapon
Weapon Spell. For 5 - 10 seconds, target ally has a Wailing Weapon. Whenever the Wailing Weapon strikes an attacking foe, that foe is interrupted.

Weapon spells only affect the first arrow though. (otherwise Splinter Weapon would be VERY overpowered).


On an off topic note, remember to use Dual Shot if you are a barrager.
Barrage hits multiple targets, dual hits 1 twice.



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

My Guild Leader has taken to using an Assassin with Barrage.

I don't know the exact build, but I do know you put points into Marksmanship and Critical Strikes.

Then use Sharpen Daggers, Critical Eye, and Barrage. Sharpen Daggers does work on arrows.

A barrage of potentially high damage, bleeding arrows. Works great.

AND, if you have another ranger, bring Lacerate.



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

w00t

Rangers FTW :)

Damn, need to update my sig so people can see I have a ranger aswel xD

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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

I really do think a plus on barrage dmg update is a must. I mean ranger have weaker armors compare to warrior, plus the recharge time of some skills are like a minute by the time it recharge your dead.

And we need better and new bows too =D



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

What level is your ranger?



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

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I really do think a plus on barrage dmg update is a must. I mean ranger have weaker armors compare to warrior, plus the recharge time of some skills are like a minute by the time it recharge your dead.

And we need better and new bows too =D


Barrage? are you talking about the skill or the damage of the bow?

Please specify what you are talking about.

Remember that Barrage is great to attack multiple targets.

If you want more damage vs 1 enemy at a time, use preparations and a skill like powershot or penetrating attack.





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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Barrage alone = not that great damage. Barrage w/ a preperation or for instance, judge's insight == mega dmg.




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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

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I really do think a plus on barrage dmg update is a must. I mean ranger have weaker armors compare to warrior.


???? Um what do warrior's ahve to do with this? What does armor have to do with this? what are you talking about?



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

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Barrage alone = not that great damage. Barrage w/ a preperation or for instance, judge's insight == mega dmg.


To bad that Barrage removes all preparations :p Otherwise It would be UBER-powerfull :) Imagine poisoning up to 6 targets at a time with Barrage...

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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

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Barrage alone = not that great damage. Barrage w/ a preperation or for instance, judge's insight == mega dmg.


To bad that Barrage removes all preparations :p Otherwise It would be UBER-powerfull :) Imagine poisoning up to 6 targets at a time with Barrage...

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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Sorry for my doublepost. >.<



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Barrage is a 5 energy bow attack that deals extra damage and has a 1s cooldown. Even without the barrage effect it's a good skill, as you can stack it on weapon spells or enchants and spam away.



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

I just wish they make ignite arrow stack with barrage, haahaha that would be awesome or apply poison =D



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

no that would be INCREDIBLY overpowered and wed all be getting pwned by 8 player barrager taems using chocking gas, apply poision, kindlearrows + conjure flame, ignight arrows, and any other preps you can thinkn of all at the same time, it would be SO MUCH FUN but way overpowered, imagine IWAY x 1000000000000000000000000000000... +1 = a ruined game

but yea itd be fun




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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Dude, im not sure but i think ur looking at this a bit narrow mindedly.. from what i get, ur talking, "oh no my one barrage ranger in PvE doesnt totally own something" but at the moment.. in tombs barrage rangers are one of the best spikes going, they really couldn't increase it because its already doing very nicely in HA and i mean u can spam it, hit multiple targets, add a hell of a load of damage buffs already i mean do u seriously think it needs to do loads of damage a hit as well?
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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

I seriously dont see what u ppl are crying about, barrage is a great skill.

The +dmg is great, its spammable, slap a tigers fury on urself or a Lighting Reflexes Stance, and u got constant dmg.

Barrage is used for crowd control, great to hit several targets.

Imagine firing a few barrage waves into a crowd of foes...u will soon get more dmg then vs a single target and say with Punishing Shot.

And ya, get a few Spirits, FW maybe Winnow, and u have +10dmg there already.





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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

Barrage is one of the most commonly used elite skills for a ranger. The fact that it is that good to begin with means it is the last elite skill that should be buffed up. If you were to improve any skills...focus on other ranger elites to help vary the types of rangers being played.
Personally I think they are fine as is.



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

If anything they need to WEAKEN this skill. The only class thus far I have beaten a ranger with is my necro. And thats only beacuse my Necro is invincible(unless im fighting a sepcial monk then im screwed). Im fine with barrage as is. Actually a lil underpowering wouldn't bother me a bit.



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RE: Increasing barrage damage 

If you havn't read it yet, check out my build that i posted a little while back, its a Barrage/Weapon Buffer.CLICK HERE







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