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Torlax
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Here is a quote for guildwars.com
Bots Banned 26 May 2006
In our continuing efforts to preserve a solid game economy and to support the legitimate Guild Wars player, we have been actively pursuing those who use "bots" in Guild Wars. In the last week, we have closed more than one thousand accounts of those using third-party programs, and we will continue to take similar action in the future.
About time they did this.
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| 05/26/06 13:03 |
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Brynden
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Alright! Go Anet!
+cred for the find
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| 05/26/06 13:04 |
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Torlax
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I counted once and found 37 Mo/W in elonas a few days ago. It was insaine.
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| 05/26/06 13:07 |
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The labmonkey
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This is good.
Working on the lag and hitting bots hard.
We've got some good news recently.
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| 05/26/06 13:07 |
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blackphoenix
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| QUOTE | | In the last week, we have closed more than one thousand accounts of those using third-party programs, |
In the last WEEK! at $50 a pop, that's over $50,000 they made for free in one week, cause you know they arent refunding people's money when they ban someone.
$50,000 in a week and all because someone wants a bot.
That brings up an interesting concept...think about it for a minute and tell me it doesn't. That's free money for ANet for each bot they ban...
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| 05/26/06 13:12 |
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The labmonkey
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This is assuming that people who run dubious businesses don't use stolen accounts/pirated software etc.
Anyway, banning a load them at least slows down the damage they cause.
The best solution to bots I've seen is the approach taken in Runescape. Random characters who will ask you to respond. Players get a small reward, but if they don't answer, they get attacked by an incredibly tough mob or teleported somewhere, so their macros will take them on a useless path.
Besides, bots cost Anet money. They are a 24/7 drain on a server, but real players need rest/food/a life.
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| 05/26/06 13:17 |
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Torlax
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In the terms of agreement it says that your account will be non refunded when removed because of the use of third-party programs, hacks, cheats. no its not free for them the only new diffrence is that there is 1k less people online. these bots have been playing for a long time. if some newbe player plays for 1 day and hates it he doesnt get a refund nor is it considered free mone for guild wars.
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Torlax The Brute - W/Mo - lvl 8
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| 05/26/06 13:21 |
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johandh
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u have also got to realize that bots r never accepted in the gaming servers as far as i have seen. its basicaly cheating and correct me if im wrong but against the user agreement. so that leaves u with 2 options. either dont do it. or dont get caught. it IS a drain on the games economy. it IS a source of problems for players. and it most definitly IS a drain on the anet servers.
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| 05/26/06 13:21 |
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blackphoenix
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| QUOTE | | Besides, bots cost Anet money. They are a 24/7 drain on a server, but real players need rest/food/a life. |
You're right about that. I was talking about banned bots though. Unless they are stolen/pirated, like you say (and I'm sure there are plenty that are) they are free moneyf for ANet for each banned bot.
Everyone needs to realize that each time someone buys gold/items off the internet, they are buying that botter another account to continue running bots in the game.
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| 05/26/06 13:23 |
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dragoniusx
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Haha, nice one Anet! :D
and yeah, +cred for the find ;)
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| 05/26/06 13:25 |
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Rogue
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still... isn't that only american/european bots that they are legaly able to ban?
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| 05/26/06 13:26 |
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blackphoenix
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| QUOTE | | In the terms of agreement it says that your account will be non refunded when removed because of the use of third-party programs, hacks, cheats. no its not free for them the only new diffrence is that there is 1k less people online. these bots have been playing for a long time. if some newbe player plays for 1 day and hates it he doesnt get a refund nor is it considered free mone for guild wars. |
They are getting free money out of it. Look at it like this, when you pay $50 and log in to GW, you are paying for the game and everything with it throughout the life of your account. So basically, they sell you the game with the intention of providing enough resources for now until forever. When they ban a bot, they are esentially terminating the agreement and keeping what is left of the cost of supporting that account. So lets say $50 is good for 10 years of play on Guild Wars. If they terminate a bot account after only one month of play, they have just received the money for 9 years and 11 months worth of supporting and account for free. So yes, in this sense, they are getting money for free.
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| 05/26/06 13:28 |
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Torlax
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Im not sure. I need to look into the laws in other countrys. As for this this will ban the American and Euro bots from the severs. This will help prices of dyes and runes go back up. As for the other contrys its not going to effect them. They will still but the money they make up on ebay or other sites.
Torlax The Great - R/(Everything) - lvl 20
Drogod Rathen - E/Mo - lvl 19
Torlax The Brute - W/Mo - lvl 8
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| 05/26/06 13:29 |
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A L E X Z A N
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They can never banned all the bot user just impossible. I mean people who use it usually don't stay long enough for them to get caught. I mean yes, 1k account banned whoo yooo but I am pretty sure those account are already dried up no longer in use.
I mean can you imagine if they really ban those company selling gold at ebay that is pretty much anet bread and butter not to charge gw player monthly fee.
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| 05/26/06 13:32 |
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Charlotte The Harlot
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well its not 50 dollars because theres the fee for manufacturing the disk the box and all that not much i know but then theres the mark up on the sale so they sell the games for like 30 dollars to a shop then the sohp sells it for 50 so its not a full 50 that their making.
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| 05/29/06 21:45 |
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Jinx Serenity
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Well, the bot banning was inevitable, but far too late. Those bots indirectly destroyed an old guild of mine. Leader and several members got sick of competing with macros, and quit the game. Small guild, half the members leave... well, you can the rest.
Now the focus should be on exploits. Namely leeching in aspenwood or 12v12 battles. There have been various arguments for and against such people being banned, but imo they are no better than bots, and some are clearly repeat offenders. I was appalled to see a member of Rus Corp (i say no names, i am not sure on whether forum will allow giving of names) who i have spotted leeching in a number of alliance battles. Its not as if this is just some random from an unknown guild, this is RUS, a fairly high ranked guild who have members leeching in Aspenwood. Certainly shall not be routing for them in any gvgs to come...
On whether bots are getting ANET money. Well, these bots have not gone out and bought a copy of the game themselves. The majority of the bots are other peoples accounts stolen by key loggers embedded in cheat software downloaded from the company that runs the bots. In a way the cheaters get their accounts taken, and then used by bot farmers. So, in a way, banning the bots does decrease load on servers, and yes the copies were bought in the first place, so it could be said ANET do in fact reduce losses from kicking bots off the system. What must also be remembered, however, is that bots are a small proportion of the whole. 1000 bots out of the million+ accounts. Thats 1/1000 of the GW pop.
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| 05/30/06 08:59 |
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