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Madclergy

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Dual Wielding Fighter

Like the Description says, I am getting Bored. I have played Duergan (my lvl 7 dwarven fighter) as a toughness fighter with his dwarven axe/towershield and full plate armor for a while now but I am just getting bored. But i have found that for some reason I enjoy dual wielding...its just fun. So I am planning to play a new fighter but wanted to get some input first before i begin...so heres my dual wielding fighter build.

Race: Human

Initial Stats
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STR 16
DEX 15
CON 15
INT 8
WIS 10
CHA 8

Level Progression
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1 Fighter
2 Fighter
3 Fighter
4 Fighter
5 Fighter
6 Fighter
7 Fighter
8 Fighter
9 Fighter
10 Fighter

Skills
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Going for Jump and Swim just because

Levels 4 and 8 Ability Boost
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4th: Con
5th: Con

Feat Selection
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1 Two-Weapon Fighting, Toughness, Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
2 Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
3 Toughness
4 Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
5
6 Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons, Toughness
7
8 Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
9 Toughness
10 Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Enhancement Selection
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1 Fighter’s Strength II (+2; 18)
2 Human Constitution I (+1; 18)
3 Fighters Action Boost
4 Open (Not Sure if the Human Str would Stack with Fighter’s Strength but if it does then I would probably take that)

Equipment
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1. Str Enhancing Equipment (+4 from Delera’s Tomb)
2. Con Enhancing Equipment (Belt from Splinterskull)
3. Mithral Full Plate
4. D/R Enhancing Equipment
5. Saving Throw Enhancers
6. A set of Dual Blades and a Set of Dual Bludgeoning damage Dealers

***THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED***

05/31/06 14:15

Ozone_Friendly

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RE: Dual Wielding Fighter

I think it looks pretty good. If you want you could concider trying to get a 17 dex and going with improved two weapon fighting... I dont know in game exactly how much of a difference that makes and none of my twf characters have a +6 bab to test it out yet. Also depending on how you feel about ac two weapon defense isn't bad

05/31/06 18:32

Waelen

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RE: Dual Wielding Fighter

As you said you wanted input, well I'm openly willing to share input given my experience as a person who has tested out multiple aspects of a fighter.

Dual Wielding -is- fun, I had a great Dual Wielder called Khend the Cold for quite some time. The way Khend worked was simple... It wasn't about how much I was hitting for it was about how often I was hitting. As a Dual Wielder you're going to have to accept the fact that a huge Greatsword is gonna have a large damage advantage over your main hand weaponry and your even smaller, lighter, offhand weaponry (You probablly already know but your offhand should be something light like a Dagger, Shortsword, Handaxe, etc. etc. to keep your Attack rate high).

So how do I ensure that my Score Card looks better than the Two Handed Barbarian foaming of the mouth beside me? I get Precision. Now before someone jumps on this topic and goes on about how it sucks because of Damage Reduction, I can honestly say I have tested it out. It does suck. But if you have a weapon with Bane, Elemental, or Alignment damage? You are gonna hit every time and the damage that is being reduced is your base damage. For instance lets say you swing "Giant Stalker's Knife" which is 1d4+3d6+3 vs. Giants. The only thing that is being reduced damage-wise is that 1d4. So lets say you get the worst possible damage output, which is a one. You still get +3d6 and you still get +3 but you also have that almost 100% guarantee that your next hit, and the hit after that is gonna be just that, a hit.

So in the end what do we have, a person who's swinging fast, landing each hit, and doing effect damage just as good as the guy who's missing twice as much. In comparison to the two-handed guy who's hitting for more each hit, but not hitting as much, and swinging slower. So basically it equals out. But also now you have an advantage at end-game for those high CR enemies who are harder to hit. Believe me, I still miss with +34 Attack.

I hope this helps you out.

Waelen            - 10 Fighter (Slashing)
Waelin             - 07 Fighter (Bludgeon)
Waelan            - 07 Fighter (Piercing)
Azaeda             - 04 Fighter (AC/Saves)
Graeden           - 01 Fighter (AOE Damage)
Waelun             - 07 Fighter (Crossbow) -DELETED-
Professional    - 02/01 Fighter/Rogue (Armor) -DELETED
Waelyn              - 07 Fighter (Throwing) -DELETED-
Khend               - 05 Fighter (DualWield) -DELETED-

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06/01/06 09:31

Madclergy

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RE: Dual Wielding Fighter

Just kinda tossing around ideas before work

Initial Stats
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STR 14
DEX 17
CON 14
INT 8
WIS 11
CHA 8

Level Progression -- Ability Inc -- Skills
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1 Fighter --
2 Fighter --
3 Fighter --
4 Fighter -- STR
5 Fighter --
6 Fighter --
7 Fighter --
8 Fighter -- STR
9 Fighter --
10 Fighter --

Feat Selection
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1 Weapon Finesse (+3 to attack rolls), Toughness, Two-Weapon Fighting
2
3
4 Precision (+4; as per suggestion)
5
6 Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons (+1 attk)
7
8 Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons (+2 damage)
9
10 Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (Extra Attack)

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06/01/06 10:18

Waelen

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RE: Dual Wielding Fighter

What do you mean by "Improved Two Weapon Fighting(Extra Attack)?

Like... if I go with Improved Two Weapon Fighting I get to swing a sixth time?

06/01/06 10:25

Ozone_Friendly

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RE: Dual Wielding Fighter

QUOTE

What do you mean by "Improved Two Weapon Fighting(Extra Attack)?

Like... if I go with Improved Two Weapon Fighting I get to swing a sixth time?

Well in PnP Improved TWF allows you to make an additional attack with your off hand weapon at a -5. So in PnP with the feat you would have four attacks a round, two attacks with your main hand and two with your off hand. In game however It just says you can attack more frequently, so the exact mechanics I'm not positive on.

06/01/06 15:10

Waelen

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RE: Dual Wielding Fighter

QUOTE

What do you mean by "Improved Two Weapon Fighting(Extra Attack)?

Like... if I go with Improved Two Weapon Fighting I get to swing a sixth time?

As odd as this might come out I'm going to try to describe what I do at level 10 with dual wield weapons, I swing once with one hand, swing one with the other hand, then start a spin when I do two hits at once, after that spin I wave my two weapons upwards oddly, also counting as two hits. So in the end I guess I have six attack opportunities without Imp. Two Weapon.

06/01/06 18:57

Madclergy

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RE: Dual Wielding Fighter

That is my guess as well :)

06/01/06 19:22

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