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Hellmeister

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Battle of the masterminds

OK this is kind of a random question (i'm full of these), if all the different pets were to fight in pvp which do you think would win? Like jsut the pets, all 6 with no other help?

06/08/06 16:35

Mzzkc

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Ninjas. Own at melee. Some other pets have decent melee but prefer range and die when faced with pure melee that can take a +3 boss down to two thirds helth right when they all run in and attack (Not exagerated I've done this before but it only works on the first target, the rest are taken down fairly quickly though). They would just run up to the others one by one and one shot them at once. They have the clear advantage in the damage aspect (melee of course) plus they have natural resistance to most damages other pets do. They have double super leap now so if worst comes to worst they could totally jump out of range away from the fire of all the others. Of course they are ninjas, so they would do this in the first place. They would let the others fight eachother then run in and take out the survivors. Because they are ninjas and are not stupid like zombies who would go out in the middle and wait. The robots would attack next seeing as their program usually is shoot on sight. Then the thugs would jump in there cause they can't stand waiting around watching a fight. The Ninjas would wait. The mercs seeing an advantage and being strategical thinkers would make a surprise attack on the other minions. The Ninjas would wait. By now the mercs probably have the upper hand because they are on the sidelines firing AoEs in now while most of the other are bunched up. The large robot would also be of to the side. No one would notice the absense of the ninjas because the Ninjas would have sent out a easily broken coded scroll out somewhere and planned it to be intercepted and say that they were not going to show up to the fight. Once there is only one faction left the ninjas would jump down and pwn.

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06/08/06 20:01

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

i was in warburg playing with my friend, i immobilized all his pets then my assault bot killed all of his pets in one hit with incendiary missles. since they placed a burn and they were immobilised big damage, and thats just assault bot on its own, with protecter bot's disorients and the battle drone's full autos bots ownzor. id think bots wud win.

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06/08/06 20:16

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Bots would RULE!!! I luv my bots. They charge in and wipe em out baby. Luv the full auto and the missles NICE. Bots would win for sure! =)

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06/08/06 20:56

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

I personally would have put my money on either robot or ninja's but really it coems down to useing each different pet types strenghts and weaknesses right.

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06/09/06 06:51

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

At range you would have to take bots hands down. Close in though I think the Ninja would slice and dice and carry the day. Of course if the bots had FF as a secondary that would make it harder on the ninja to get in close. that would be a nice battle to see.

06/09/06 10:41

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

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Actually, the Bots do provide a little FF action. Not the projection thingy, but the encase each other in def bubbles to help mitigate damage. So, they would come to the fight with a little extra defense.

06/09/06 11:10

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Wow, you guys are not giving the Mercs any credibility. With the right power set the Mercs can be a powerhouse of led spewing goodness.

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06/09/06 12:32

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Don't forget the thugs, you know street hardened, they won't go down easy, and persides the arsonist could set people on fire and watch then run around screaming lol (such sweet images...) But then so can the kill (assult) bot. One thing i think the ninja's miss is a poison attack, that would rock.

Thinknig about it, wouldn't the zombies do the best concidering the fact they are already dead?

Such a hard choice >_<

06/09/06 13:57

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Bots imo. I have a zombie MM and the zombies r weak but the grave knights and lcih r strong. But bots all the way. Ninja i dont know and mercs. mercs?

06/09/06 14:52

Hellmeister

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

mercs = mercinaries.

All in all either the bots or ninjas would win out... but whom *looks for a coin*

06/09/06 15:08

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

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Ninjas Have Fire too. And holds. And confuse. And Diorient. And Knockback. And Toxic (Jounin have Poison Dart). And Immob. And Speed. And Defense Debuff. And To-Hit Debuff. And sleep. And slow w/ built in fear. *takes breath* And Hide. And Double Super Leap. And Crriticals. And resist to Confuse, Taunt, Lethal, Smashing, and Fire. And Defense to Lethal, Smahsing and AoE. *Breahts out* I think that covers it. Oh wait I forgot to mention Knockup. Yay.

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06/09/06 16:20

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

*smacks forhead* oh yeah i forgot the oni...

Well thats why ninja's are my fav, persides jsut the idea of ninjas is cooler to me :P

06/09/06 16:52

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

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mercs = mercinaries.

All in all either the bots or ninjas would win out... but whom *looks for a coin*

I know what mercs r. I was just saying that mercs r not even in this fight at all.

And i did 4get about the oni. He totally pwns all the zombies b/c of fire attacks. Hm vs. lich oni would win b/c he has more dmg out put than lich who has mostly holds and debuffs. The bots vs. ninjas would be the ultimate showdown. Old vs. new.

06/10/06 07:08

Hellmeister

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Sorry on the merc thing. Yeah old verses new you know its the ultimate showdown

well so is this but hey http://www.flashportal.com/movies/the_ultimate_showdown.html

Still ninja's for the win!
(I should have made this a poll if i were able...)

06/10/06 07:20

Mzzkc

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

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Sorry on the merc thing. Yeah old verses new you know its the ultimate showdown

well so is this but hey http://www.ultimateshowdown.org

Still ninja's for the win!
(I should have made this a poll if i were able...)

I couldn't help 'fixing' the link for you. =P

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06/11/06 11:24

Hellmeister

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Theres a better link? oh well thank you :)

06/11/06 11:51

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i have a 33 thug mastermind, they arent thaaat great, and normal thugs have no resistance so they would be easy pray. enforcers only have resistance to lethal and smashing, and bruiser has lethal, smash, and a little cold and fire. arsonist has a tiny bit of lethal and fire resistanced, so they would be easy pray to ninjas or robots. plus, even with upgrade they dont hit very hard. arsonist has a weak version of assault bot's incendiary missles(fire bomb) the reason i find incendiary missles so strong is cause they set a burn which burns, lol, the enemy doing a lot of damage if they cant move. i still think ninjas are nice though, and they have a good chance of winning this "battle". Im not sure about soldiers, and im pretty sure zombies arent gonna win, so its either bots or ninjas i think

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06/25/06 15:05

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

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i was in warburg playing with my friend, i immobilized all his pets then my assault bot killed all of his pets in one hit with incendiary missles. since they placed a burn and they were immobilized, it caused big damage, and thats just assault bot on its own, with protecter bot's disorients and the battle drone's full autos bots ownzor. id think bots wud win.

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06/25/06 15:07

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

If ninjas had EMP arrows the would own that robot ass, but they don't :(

06/25/06 15:11

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Robots would definetly win. You forget about their heals!

06/25/06 18:03

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

ok thugs all the way, they deal lethat smashing and fire damadge, enforcers add defence, acc, and i think damadge to all attacks, tactics means no hide for the jounins, thugs make decent damage, arsonist does AoE fire, enforcers do AoE plus the leadership powerset plus firepower with their uzis, the bruiser would own all Melee and plus add backup with his assault rifle

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06/25/06 19:45

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Robots would definetly win. You forget about their heals!

Ninjas are smart though. They will take out the support class first leaving the other Robots more vulnerable and therefore easy prey.

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Ninjas can do all that (minus Leadership stuff. And Jounin would still hit criticals with Hide even if it was seen and again support class first) to a greater degree and more. Plus they can nullify most of the Buffs with their own debuffs (Blinding Powder for accuracy, Katana attacks for defense, etc.) As for the Brawler, Ninjas will always reign supreme in melee because it's just one Thug built for melee only, Against six Ninjas built primarily for melee but fare decently in range as well so if it comes down to it they won't let the thug get close via Ring of Fire and other holds. And even if the Thug does get in range to use it's attacks it won't have the chance with all the knockups/backs and holds being thrown on it.

And in the end. The Jounin would just throw Blinding Powder onto the last group of minions and they would then proceed to kill themselves in a frantic display of confusion and stupidity (Thugs have street smarts but little tactical knowledge. That is given first to Mercs and then to Ninjas with Zombies last and thugs right before that.) So I must again say that Ninjas would win hands down. There really is no contest and I wonder why this sublect was brought up in the first place. =P

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06/25/06 21:42

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

I'll go with Thugs just because I have them ;)
Also they are very powerful at the moment with Thug War but I think this fight only involves the 6 Pets so in that case I would go with Ninjas

Edit: I think the highest level of each mastermind pet such as Ninjas, Thugs, etc, without buffs, vs each other in the arena so we can settle this fight. lol.

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06/25/06 22:07

Hellmeister

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

To be honest, thugs are the most pointless powerset to my belivings, thugs would quite literally be owned by the other groups. Mercs have better guns and better tactics, ninjas jsut kickass no questions asked. Robots would be resistant to bullets, and zombies are already dead = feel less pain.

06/26/06 14:49

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Right well when I see it, I'll believe it.

06/26/06 15:30

Hellmeister

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Okie day, PvP sometime when i get my mm off ground zero?

06/26/06 15:46

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

[QUOTE][QUOTE]Robots would definetly win. You forget about their heals![/QUOTE]

Ninjas are smart though. They will take out the support class first leaving the other Robots more vulnerable and therefore easy prey.

I dont care how smart you say your ninjas are, this is not real life, this is a virtual world wre AI is mostly stupid its just testing the power of pets. Anway, robots are designed to be smarter then humans.

06/26/06 15:58

Hellmeister

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

That would be pure stupidity to make robots smarter then humans!

06/26/06 16:04

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RE: Battle of the masterminds

Speaking as an experienced MM who has at least 1 MM of each type over level 15, I can tell you right now that it'd be a close battle between Ninjas and Robots. The Ninjas have butt-kickin' melee attacks and unfortunately for all the pet types, none of them can take melee damage worth a darn. The only pet group that would stand a chance at surviving would be the Robots. The force fields, heals, and seeker drones that the Protector Bots provide would provide them with enough advantage to allow the bots to get their devastating attacks off.

I'd give Ninjas a 50% chance of winning
Robots a 40% chance of winning
Mercs & Thugs 4% each
Zombies 2%

HOWEVER...with the right Mastermind behind the controls, the odds would change dramatically. Those numbers are assuming you just let them rumble away at each other with no interference from commands or MM powers.

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