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tylerbaxter

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MMO vs MMO

Theoretically speaking, if both games were already available...

If I had a box of EQ2 in one hand, and a box of WoW in the other, and I knew nothing about either one, which would you suggest I purchase, and why? (To make things easier, no, I won't buy both. Say I only have enough for one, or the other)

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11/07/04 20:04

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EQ2 Catches my eye more because its less cartoony then WoW. But if your a fan of Warcraft then thats no big deal. I doubt I'll get either one because I'm a Sci-fi fan.

11/07/04 20:52

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Most mmos seem to be point and click almost all the time which to human nature, most people actually like over the pure player skills and twitch based.

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11/07/04 21:08

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I would go for WoW, just because it has more hype begind it (if oyu ask me) and it has been in beta for longer (I believe). Meaning it wont have as many bugs.

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11/07/04 22:19

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WoW has been in beta longer. Blizzard as a company has more integrity then SoE by far. WoW is much more fully tested and Sony has a bad habit of pushing release dates for their products in order to beat competition (re: EQ2 vs WoW, and pretty much all of the EQ expansions that have come out over the past 3 years).

WoW is pretty cartoony but thats always been the style of Warcraft. They are both very pretty looking though. EQ2 is going to be a rehash of updated EQ content, WoW is going to be Warcraft content. I think both games have the same possibilities for RolePlay and story lines.

Having not played EQ2 at all, I dont know how the game is going to be for all player levels (Ubber gamer vs. Casual players) but i knwo the way WoW has set up the game, it is easy for a casual player to enjoy the game, do neat stuff and get immersed.

I will personally be playing WoW. That should be all the readon you need Wyrdman!!!

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11/07/04 23:05

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Drats. and here i thought this thread was going to be about us being paired off with someone and guess on who would win.

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11/08/04 00:36

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Drats. and here i thought this thread was going to be about us being paired off with someone and guess on who would win.

Actually yes, You'll lose to the WoW and EQ2 boxes as they vie for their position in this thread.

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It depends on the person, I don't get why they're doing an MMO off of a strategy game, hence WoW and I have no desire to play it. But EQ2 to me, even though some people say it's a rehashed EQ, it's more open ended as to how you develope your toon, you don't have a true specific class until later. You know you want to play EQ2 so you can play with the pantless DJ known as Serani.

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11/08/04 04:11

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I'd say buy WoW, sure the characters are a bit funny looking, but so are some of those CoH heros! It's fun and easy to play, and it's about to hit open beta, so you still have the chance to give it a whirl before investing your money.

Personally won't buy another SOE game, SWG has been enough SOE to last me a life time.

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11/08/04 05:17

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Having played EQ1 and SWG since launch and the WoW Beta for months now, Id go WoW without hesitation... except for one thing.

Community.

MMO Games are more fun when you play with friends and so although I feel WoW is a very very good game and Sony deserves all the bashing it gets, if all your friends are playing EQ2 then EQ2 is probably where you need to be.

WoW is cartoony yes, but the quests are great, griffon riding is much better than EQ2 griffon riding, terrain is interesting and varied with superb music. Crafting is not a grind.

Play the WoW Open Beta and try to con your friends into playing it too.

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11/08/04 07:19

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but i have lots of strategy. i shold have like 5 points.

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11/08/04 07:20

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Well that all depends..
are you familer on each games past?
and which would youlike more?
did you play the hell outa EQ, or did you buy all the warcraft games and play the hell outa thoes
is this your first MMO?
next i think you would take into account grafix gameplay and system req's as EQ2 req's a higher performance machine.. while wow just needs a little bit of vid mem and some internet
still a good game just not as visualy stunning as eq2.
all and all if you could only buy one thoe i would go with WoW just for the pure fact that its the warcraft series.. in MMO form.. cant pass that up..

11/08/04 08:12

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Warcraft has a lot more credibility than Everquest ever will. Warcraft has been known to entertain the casual game for a couple hours a week. And suck the life out of hardcore gamers for months. I loved WC1 and WC2. I loved WC3 but i dont own it so i cant play it very often.

As far as everquest goes, it has been known to be cruel to the casual gamers and not give them a fair chance. Leveling is slow and pain staking, and it has also only focused the expansions on the hardcore gamers with new worlds (yes a few new areas for the lower levels but not as much compared to higher levels). But lets say you have plenty of time to devote to one of these MMO's. Im almost 100% positive if you keep with EQ2 for a good year or so, and play fairly often then you will become emersed in the story and everything happening around you. Not to mention the graphics look amazing even compared to offline games.

So if you have lots of time to spare, go with EQ2. But if you just want a liezure activity for a couple hours in the week then go with WoW (Of course the first month of any MMO you are going to play 40 hours a week so you have to think in terms after this first month how long you might be willing to spend on it).

Personnaly, I have sworen to never play a EQ game for the rest of my life, but this is not because I think any and everyone that plays EQ is a "Loser", its because I dont want to become so emersed in it that I am skipping class to play it.

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11/08/04 09:01

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i like how i'm reading this and as i'm reading the abbriviations (why doesn't this word use its own defenition) but anyways, when i get to WoW, i'm not sure how to read it. W..o...W or wow like the word. how do you guys say it. unless you actually see it and say World of Warcraft which complete defeats the purpose of abbriv. (ha, take that websters dictionary). Anyways, on the topic. I've never EQ, but the videos i've seen of it got me interested. i think this time i'll actually go back to my small sprouting and tied D&D roots and create a Dwarf. As for WoW, i'll be playing it because although i haven't played 1 and 2, Warcraft 3 was enough to get me hooked. For the Hoard and Lich King!!!

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11/08/04 11:24

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Hmmm this is a toughy,

EQ 2 has me leaning to it cause of the Lore behind it.

But, WoW has me leaning to it as well cause i love the durability rules and the smoothness of the game (dont lag half as bad as i do in EQ)

But since i can only pick one,.. my vote is going to WoW.

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11/08/04 11:44

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It's EQ2 for me (picking up my DVD's tomorrow morning!!), I enjoy adventuring and exploration, and EQ2's graphics and landscape are much more realistic IMO, and will be much more immersive in that sense.

Another important factor for me was lore. I find the backstory for EQ2 to be very involved and very well written. I can't wait to get ingame and further learn what has befallen Norrath. Of course, mind you, I know almost nothing about WoW's storyline, so my opinion on "depth of lore" is pretty biased.

I think both games will be excellent, it's just a matter of which style of excellence you prefer.

11/08/04 12:29

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I say "wow", simply because monosyllabic words are easier to get out.

I guess I should have added that my fondness for EQ2 stems from having played in the EQ universe for a short while (EQOA), and I am very eager to get back to Norrath and see what shape the land has taken.

edit: as a side note I do beleive there is an abbreviation for the word abbreviation.. I think it's "abbr.".

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11/08/04 12:38

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I'm not going to play WoW. I'm an undead follower. always will be. i think the horde are the good guys and the allience are the bad guys. what do the allience want? to get rid of the horde. what does the horde want? to live alone in peace and are constantly on the run cause the allience keeps waging war on them. I will however be going to EQ2. ive never gotten into the series. I have EQ but at the time i didnt have the power to play it and so i was robbed of any joy of playing it and now there are just so many expansions i dont wanna bother with it. But ive been watching the stuff for EQ2 and its grabbed at my interest. I'm also on SWG right now cause i have no other home to go to right now. CoH doesnt wanna work with my computer anymore and i dont know why. I get this horrible stutter now. Not Lag. a stutter. like i turn the camera around and suddenly its like its rubberbanding and then pops into the direction and everything has moved a dozen frames. But when I get into EQ2 I'm gonna be a kitty ranger with cool red kitty boots.

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11/08/04 14:31

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I have to say WoW for me.....for most of the reasons others have said here.....but I've already gone into all that in two other threads......the WOW and the one Leto started about WoW forum......sorry I don't remember the name of it Leto.....I'm simi off pain killers.....and my head wants them.....

Additionally, I really don't like setting one game against another. I listened (read) that whole biz on Saturday.....you get into a contest where if you don't agree with the majority you are (mind you these in no way describe anything I think, but are some of the insults being thrown around.....you'd think they were discussing politics)
a. immature
b. haven't played an MMO before or a video game before and if you did it was in the Space Invaders generation (a game I happened to enjoy)
c. are a bad parent for playing a game and not watching your kid even if your kid(s) are playing with you
d. have bad parents cause you are playing the game with or without your parents
e. you are a social drop-out and sit in your underware eating cheetos and playing games on and off line with no life otherwise
f. you are such a faker you have to talk like a script kiddie in "l33t" just to make you look like you are a hacker
g. you're such a "noobie" that no one will ever take your opinion for real fact cause your characters didn't come from the original test group and isn't Level 100000000000000 etc.
h. or wouldn't know a good mmo if it bit you in the ...... (fill in the blank)

To say the least, I didn't get into this conversation cause I could tell how bad it was getting every time someone disagreed with the "established truth" opinion (Gee you think some gamers are opinionated?)......and I was happy when we went to Test 6 and Test 7 to be with people who I consider friends.....those from MMORadio. :) And no that is not a kiss up......If I meant to do that it would take much more time.

I just want to play a game that is well designed and written with some challenge but enough that I can relax and enjoy good company of people I like to be around.

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11/08/04 15:06

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I'm in production of what will be the greatest MMO of all time. I just need some money and a corporate sponser and business and computer programmer and designers and artists and secretary and gamers lounge and people that work over night and concept artists and animators and music composers and programmers and director and producer and sound effects and *rambles*

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11/08/04 15:28

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Thanks Arzada_Solace I needed that! lol

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11/08/04 15:31

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I'd have to agree with Mina/Crystal on the whole pitting one against the other. Each has their good points and each has their bad points, I am sure of it. All MMO's have good and bad points. I am tired of people constantly bashing my want to play EQ2. I've dealt with it for months in IRC and I really find it unfair to those who have made their choice because its just that.. THEIR choice. It doesn't do any harm to you if someone else enjoys EQ Live or EQ2.. Let them have their own opinion because thats what suits their needs, wants, and playstyles best.

My suggestion to you, Wyrd.. is to try out the open beta right now that is going on with WoW. Establish your opinion on that and from there you can start asking questions about EQ2 (seeing as its coming out tomorrow) from people who have already decided to get the game. I was in the beta for EQ2 and I am going to try out WoW open beta sometime this week.. however I already decided I was going with EQ2.. I just want to see what the buzz is about.

So far, the dev team on EQ2 has seemed really responsive towards concerns within the beta. Those who say its just EQ thats re=hashed or start on the Sony bashing.. more than likely were not in the beta and haven't played it (most folks who claim, not all.. there are always exceptions to the rule but in general I've noticed this. Its almost an entire new game. It just shares lore with EQ2. If you wanna ask any questions about EQ2, feel free to contact me. As I said, play WoW as well. I want to make sure you aren't going by other people's opinions and are going to go by what YOU feel is best suited for you. =)

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11/08/04 16:17

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hmmm, id have to say WoW.

I really dont trust SOE at all. Blizzard has a good past and i loved WC3. Unfortunatly, when i did the first stress test, i got very agitated because everyone was low lvl, thus the areas were crowded. When i look past that though i see that it was really a great game. The only gripes i have is that you walk too slow and the night elves are ugly.

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11/08/04 17:48

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Another important factor for me was lore. I find the backstory for EQ2 to be very involved and very well written. I can't wait to get ingame and further learn what has befallen Norrath. Of course, mind you, I know almost nothing about WoW's storyline, so my opinion on \"depth of lore\" is pretty biased.

The Lore from previous Warcraft games is found in books and museums in several cities, very interesting reading!

But even better, is the quests you take in WoW are part of a huuuuge story, and it is fascinating. By level 10-15 depending, you can start to see the outlines and pieces falling into place as you talk to more NPCs and take more quests. I am extremely interested in seeing how it turns out.

Not all the little quests are pat of the Big Storyline but they are interesting in their own right. Many are part of a chain... One early Undead mission involves stealing pumpkins (which was a blast to do, Solid Snake style). After you turn in the pumpkins you become embroiled in a scheme to use them and you really really need to do this quest. Dont run away, watch what happens after you deliver them to the next person *wink*.

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11/08/04 18:17

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I would go with WoW for 2 reasons, neither of which really have anything to do with WoW itself.

1: Blizzard versus Sony. Blizzard has a far better track record with games than Sony does.

2: I played EQ for a while, and was not especially impressed. I understand EQ2 is not the same game, and is said to be improved. But, really, it is more of the same with better window-dressing.

11/08/04 18:55

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Okay, first things first:

Thank you all for your opinions! From the data that I have collected, I have made my decision!

Secondly:

This was never intended to be a Game vs. Game to the Death kinda forum. I was looking for assistance. I didn't mean for anyone to take things too personally. I just wasn't sure which game to purchase, and now I know.

Thank you all.

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11/08/04 22:50

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Well...

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Are you going to tell us what you chose? So then we can start bashing you and calling you names for it. And then we will run you out of the forums so you will never come back agian, and then we will eat your friends and family. Have a big BBQ in your honor by eating your dog. Then we will burn down your hometown and eat all the dogs in it.

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Well...

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11/09/04 08:32

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I think we need to take 2 people, get 2 inflatable sumo suits and have them go at it. We'll call one OQ2 and one ZoW (to protect the innocents they represent). Then we can set up a velcro wall and make our 2 sumo champions compete to see who can stick the highest to the velcro wall!

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11/09/04 09:08

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LOL!

11/09/04 11:29

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I need to throw in something here before this is closed off completely:

-Warcraft's lore can be seen by the adverage joe shmoe player, just by playing the warcraft games some you can see the places, and be in the battles that make up the history of it, instead of just reading about it you can actually participate in it.
-A big part of Warcraft's lore is how the world became what it is at the time of WoW. This is all in the storyline of the previous games and specifically in Warcraft 3. Take how the Orcs founded Durotar and Orgrimmar, or how the humans were almost wiped out of Lordaeron (except for Hillsbrad *PLUG FOR SOUTHSHORE!!!*) It's all in the games, and if you just play them casually, you can see and understand these things. There are a lot of deeper things you can get into if you read the books and study the history. But the only reason I know most of what I know is because I played the games from when I was a child.
-From what I know about EQ and it's lore, the adverage person in the world of EQ or EQ2 really doesnt understand a lot of it or have heard of much of it. Most of it is contained in a more elite group of individuals, knows as the hardcore gamers. It may be that those people not hardcore enough to be in the elite group just don't have any interest in learning the history of the world aroundthem, or that they are too busy trying to get more property and experience. I believe that, from what I've heard, lore is only really shared among hardcore gamers because they are the only ones that can possibly access it. Lore in EQ is much like a prize only those that have put insane amount of time into the game can claim.

I like how Lore is something you can actually participate in and experience with Warcraft, it makes you see the world itself of Azeroth and Kalimdor in a very different light. I myself doubt that because I played the Warcraft games so voraciously, that very few people have as much an apperciation ofthe land and geography itself. Even places like the Western Plaguelands and the Hinterlands have very special meanings to me because I understand their significance in time. It is something to be cherished by as many people as it can, and not something that is requird to be earned.

I do understand that my knowledge of EQ and EQ2 may be limited, but I do have multiple friends that played through EQ and are not playing EQ2, because to them its just another shallow made up world. They never learned the lore because they were only casual gamers, and they felt disenfranchised by EQ.

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11/09/04 13:38

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That's why CoH is so cool, because the lore is.... well, pretty much our history! Heh.

Anyways, yeah, I'd play WoW just because I know pretty much everything I'll encounter. Dragons, Orcs, Tauren, the Undead, Abominations.... Ooo, I bet Abominations look cooooool!

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