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thejeni

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Raiding

The official forum is up in arms about the announcement of raiding being put into the game. While they have not official announced exactly how it will be implemented just the thought of it being in game really bothers some people.

So what are your thoughts on raiding? Do you like it? Hate it? Any ideas on how it will be in the game?

07/14/06 12:15

Meldarion

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RE: Raiding

To me, it is hard to tell whether something will be good or not until one sees the way it is handled. I am not one who has had a lot of raiding experience because I've never gotten a character to that level. I am more of a socialite than a power gamer.

However, many people who have done literally hundreds of raids know what they like and dislike about it. Opinions may vary as widely as forums members, but I do know one thing: Turbine needs the community feedback to know what the community wants.

I personally could not care less about the way they implement raiding, but I do think it's important for the community to make it's collective voice heard.

Lord Meldarion, son of Beinion
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nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend” -J.R.R. Tolkien

07/14/06 18:08

Mymir

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RE: Raiding

I have seen a lot of responses on this topic and how most of the respondents feel that it is not "lore" appropriate.

Let's see.

A raid, in my definition is a gathering of more than one group or players with the objective of killing a creature/mob for either a reward or to complete an objective.

Sound about right?

Now I may be wrong, but I can think of several different instances in the books where this occured.

The most well-known that I can recall was in "The Hobbit" when a group of dwarves and one hobbit gathered together to take out a dragon. Their objective was to reclaim their ancient home but I seem to recall quite a bit of "loot" being involved.

I'm sure some of you that have read the books more than I can think of quite a few more examples of what would be considered a "raid".

The point being, a raid is what you make of it. Whether it's for "phat lewts" or for an RP event.

It's all in the definition.

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07/20/06 10:14

blackphoenix

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RE: Raiding

Mymir took the words right outta my mouth.

07/21/06 13:57

lenway

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RE: Raiding

didn't know what the heck a raid in "Game terms " was, but now I do.

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07/23/06 22:01

BatteredBarbie

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RE: Raiding

Right well, I'm not sure I really care if raiding is implemented or not as long as LotRO provides equal opportunity for some of us less "social" gamers. I hope there is ample solo play because nothing is going to kill this game faster for me than if large group gaming is mandatory and I end up pitted alongside some twelve year old kid whose wielding some obsidian staff of doom while I'm warding off foes with a twig.

07/24/06 17:30

Meldarion

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RE: Raiding

LoL.. well I doubt that would happen... the way they are talking about crafting, it seems that some of the best stuff will be made by crafters who have reached a level of mastery in their particular craft. There is not much of a chance of letting uber weapons into the game with high magic properties, simply because there are none in Tolkien's Middle Earth. Sure you had Glamdring and Sting who each glowed bluish when orcs were about, but I don't think you'll be seeing any of those.

Lord Meldarion, son of Beinion
Mith Tur, GCoA

“I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness,
nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend” -J.R.R. Tolkien

07/24/06 18:17

lenway

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RE: Raiding

I dont know if you havent read the hobbit or silmarillion Mel, but there are plenty great and well known swords that have powerful magical properties.

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07/24/06 19:00

BatteredBarbie

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RE: Raiding

...not to mention crazy dwarven armor. And the Silmarillion was like the worst book EVER, the language was totally passive. I mean, what was with those tedious singin Ainur(sp)?!!

07/24/06 19:34

lenway

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RE: Raiding

not to be offensive, but to think the silmarillion is the worst book ever means that you did not understand it.

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07/24/06 21:43

BatteredBarbie

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RE: Raiding

Oh I TOTALLY didn't understand it. I think I passed out somewhere around page 80. But regardless, what really turned me off was how Tolkein penned the book in language similar to the King James translation.

07/25/06 13:02

Meldarion

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RE: Raiding

QUOTE

I dont know if you havent read the hobbit or silmarillion Mel, but there are plenty great and well known swords that have powerful magical properties.

Since the Silmarillion is not being used, you cannot count it as cannon, Lenway. I concede that the Silmarillion had a few magical weapons (many of the well known weapons had no magical properties at all, but fine qualities which had been crafted into them by master craftsmen), still they were few and far between and it would be utterly rediculous for Turbine to put these types of weapons in the game. They have stated on several occaisions that they will not. The best weapons will be made by those who craft them, and not the ones that you'll get through drops or quests or raids.

Lord Meldarion, son of Beinion
Mith Tur, GCoA

“I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness,
nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend” -J.R.R. Tolkien

07/25/06 16:23

lenway

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RE: Raiding

point taken. Like my sig Mel?

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07/25/06 18:18

Meldarion

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RE: Raiding

LoL... nice

Lord Meldarion, son of Beinion
Mith Tur, GCoA

“I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness,
nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend” -J.R.R. Tolkien

07/26/06 17:55

Euclid

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RE: Raiding

Maybe raiding will be, like, the ability to raid small farms and take their gold and slay their livestock! >=D

07/27/06 19:08

Meldarion

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RE: Raiding

Although that sounds like a wonderful idea (I've always been fond of slaying livestock), I don't see it going down that way. However, I've been wrong before.

[/sarcasm]

Lord Meldarion, son of Beinion
Mith Tur, GCoA

“I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness,
nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend” -J.R.R. Tolkien

07/28/06 19:18

thejeni

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RE: Raiding

I just wish they would hurry up and give us some details on it. I'm really curious how they plan on implementing these.

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07/31/06 10:23

BatteredBarbie

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RE: Raiding

Okay, well, the details have been provided in a Developer Diary if you jog over to the LotRO site...

08/01/06 14:35

thejeni

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RE: Raiding

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The other objective of a raid, obviously, is loot. Loot in our raids is unique, but we won't limit good loot to just those areas. Again, we are not forcing casual players to participate in raids; there will be other places for more casual players to hunt for good loot.

So this is the part everyone is concerned with I think. In WoW the reason to raid is because the best loot in the game can only be aquired by loot.

So since it is unique, does that mean everyone will feel like they have to raid?

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08/02/06 00:45

thebutcher

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RE: Raiding

Well about the silmarillion the first time i was reading it i had to wrestle myself trough the first 100 pages after that it became more interesting. I ve been reading the book 4 times now and i find out it becomes better every time you read it. You can really see that the "lord of the rings part" is really just a part in the history of all the great things that have happened before. I hope one day they will make a game about silmarillion but i think its impossible to put so much content in a game.

I ve never done raiding before. Seems to me they put in the game to intrest more people. They need to make money so they best attract as much players as possible. They really stress out that you dont have to raid if you dont want and the rewards of raiding can also be gained on other ways so the rewards will not be unique to raiding.

08/02/06 15:53

Meldarion

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RE: Raiding

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So since it is unique, does that mean everyone will feel like they have to raid?

This is the way I feel about it. Since they have said that the best armor and weapons will be player made, then the unique loot would probably be attractive to those who wish to look uber, something that says they did the raid. You wouldn't have to raid if you didn't want the unique stuff, and since I particularly don't care whether or not I look uber, I'll not feel that I must have it.

Lord Meldarion, son of Beinion
Mith Tur, GCoA

“I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness,
nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend” -J.R.R. Tolkien

08/02/06 17:19

Zoch

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RE: Raiding

Personally, I look forward to raids. I feel that it is just another option for the end-game. As I see it now, there are three options for the end-game and that is a good thing: Raids, Epic Crafting, and monster play.

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09/01/06 16:26

Beggerman

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RE: Raiding

Yep think raids are a cool idea, it will mean bigger groups are needed and hopefully will pomote cooperation. Nice - like it :-)

10/02/06 00:47

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