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They should make the character's level into lvl 25 or lvl 99 or higher than lvl 20 or something!! THEY REALLY DO!!
You think this if unfair? look:
Max armor for warrior is 80-90. This guy bought FoW armor for 1.6 million and his armor is only 90.
Theres a new armor at nightfall. Max armor now for warrior is 150. This Little newbie bought a max armor for only 10k and his armor is 150.
Yes that sounds really unfair. So... heres my idea. Anet should make a "Armor Upgrader". Like... Lets say you have 15k glads but its armor is only 80. And there is a new armor and has 150 AL. But you dont want to Get another new armor dont you? Itll be a waste of money. Now, Heres what Anet should do:
Make a "Armor Upgrader" on NightFall. Players can talk to that dude and upgrade their armor into 150 AL so they wont have to get another EXPENSIVE ARMOR.
Heres another idea:
Make swords/axes/staffs etc increas their Max dmg.
-Why? 15-22 is old now.
-How? Simple, Anet Change it.
-What will happen to my other weapons that i bought or found Expensive? Simple, Anet will change it.
Also, they should add this "little" feature for guildwars.
-Can insert Socket Power ups into the armor like Diablo 2
-Can see other players "do their thing" outside of town execpt missions.
-Superior and Major runes should not be in the trader. They should get rid of it.
-Buff the assassin =)
-Make storage More bigger
What you guys think?
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| 08/15/06 16:27 |
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not bad, but I think anet's idea is to make you play longer, see now since you bought 1.6mils armors you need to make another same amount to get the new FOW armors, isn't that lovely of them... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah..
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| QUOTE | | not bad, but I think anet's idea is to make you play longer, see now since you bought 1.6mils armors you need to make another same amount to get the new FOW armors, isn't that lovely of them... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.. |
thx, do u get what im saying tho? i was trying to make it more understandable :)
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Some ideas are okay, but most of this is trying to change what GW really is. The very idea of this game is to not make it crucial for players to lvl their characters. There really is no point making the level cap any higher because that just defeats the purpose of GW, which is to win with teamwork and not lvl.
I didnt catch what you said... they're improving the warrior armor?
As for the whole armor and damage thing. Why upgrade both? That'll just even itself out. I have a feeling it would be severe unbalance to the current pvp scene.
As for buffing the assassin. Hehe... the sins are already pretty buffed. They are the quickest damage outputters in the game.
However, I agree the storage can be a little more generous. Since most people here are using "mules"
Also the armor upgrades might not be bad. I also would like to see the ability to take runes out of armor without killing the armor =P I can afford ruines but I dont want to keep different sets of armors in my storage.
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First. i am not flaming you have some creative ideas but I just don't see them working.
2. Higher levels severly unbalences the game
3. The armor thing - life sucks I don't see a armor upgrade in te future.
4. Weapons - this isn't Diable and we have the ability to MOD weapons and Armor (runes)
5. See other people. Everyone has their own little universe when they go out to explore. If they didn't you could get grouips of 20 fighting 1 enemy thereby reducing the challenge. Plus no soloing. I like my own place where I don't have to worry abot some noob either 1 drawing aggro into me or 2 killing me.
6. Max weapon damage is based on game balence. This gameis driven more on skills then weapon damage.
Thats my opinion on the issue.
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A-net already had their long discussion about raising the armor level. The point of guild wars is that it requires skill, not time played to aquire a higher level. Also, they really shouldn't increase the armor level. They already created the 100 AL Setinals armor. Think about it. If they increased the armor level to 150, this would give you amazing farming capabilities and if you were to go back to Cantha or Tyria, everything would be a lot easier.
The max damage of wands doesn't need to be increaed. Casters should use spells, signets and skills to do damage, not wand. That's why a lot of people don't mind have a different requirement staff or a high req one. During battle, you really never need to wand something. The point of the wand/staff is for energy/casting buffs, not damage.
Please don't take this too hard if I was a little rough with it.
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| QUOTE | They should make the character's level into lvl 25 or lvl 99 or higher than lvl 20 or something!! THEY REALLY DO!!
You think this if unfair? look:
Max armor for warrior is 80-90. This guy bought FoW armor for 1.6 million and his armor is only 90.
Theres a new armor at nightfall. Max armor now for warrior is 150. This Little newbie bought a max armor for only 10k and his armor is 150.
Make a "Armor Upgrader" on NightFall. Players can talk to that dude and upgrade their armor into 150 AL so they wont have to get another EXPENSIVE ARMOR.
Heres another idea:
Make swords/axes/staffs etc increas their Max dmg.
-Superior and Major runes should not be in the trader. They should get rid of it.
-Buff the assassin =)
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Level doesn't mean anything in GW, it's all about individual skill and cooperation.
I haven't heard anything about the max armor level being raised, please link me to a quote from Anet with them saying it. otherwise, i won't believe you.
swords/axes/staves/etc are fine where they are now. again, GW is about individual skill and cooperation, it's not about the armor or items you have. if it was, why not just call it world of warcraft?
what's wrong with sup/major runes?
assassins are good when used right, but this is only .1% of the time, so i say just leave the sins alone
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| 08/15/06 16:40 |
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i agree with 2 ideas... 1st one to buff assasin and 2nd make storage abit bigger but all other ideas... i dont know.. i think its great the way it is ;0
Edited: I agree with hambones.. its all in skills and how u gonna use them... it takes alot of time to "dig" :) GuildWars
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| 08/15/06 17:03 |
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| QUOTE | I haven't heard anything about the max armor level being raised, please link me to a quote from Anet with them saying it. otherwise, i won't believe you.
swords/axes/staves/etc are fine where they are now. again, GW is about individual skill and cooperation, it's not about the armor or items you have. if it was, why not just call it world of warcraft?
what's wrong with sup/major runes?
assassins are good when used right, but this is only .1% of the time, so i say just leave the sins alone |
Totally agree, especially about the 150 armour level, if you're going to quote stuff like that, put a link, otherwise people are gonna think your'e making crap up.
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I really dont get it..
If people want to play non-instanced areas and having to grind levels over and over with no reason what the hell are they doing at GW?
- This game is 100% instanced. This way, people can play just the way they feel like. Its up to the very each of us to decide WHEN, HOW and with WHO to play. How could it be any better than this?
- Level cap is not a distant utopy, instead of this, reaching level 20 is only the "adulthood" of a char, where his/her real life as character really begins..
- Why people complain about a newcomer being able to be competitive with him ? - since this is a GW principle: Skill over time played.
- Why dont people try to inform themselves about a game before buying it? This saves time and money.
I, as many others, left other games and play GW cause it is what it is, just the way it is. It can get improvements, since nothing is perfect.
But..if GW becomes non instanced and level/craft/grinding oriented, like all the other titles around, many of their loyal customers will leave.
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But..what I would like to see in Nightfall:
-Smarter and customable henchies (this is hinted to happen).
-Improvements on trade, by implementing personal shops or an auction house(promissed long ago).
-Instead of repeatable quests, why not make a random quest generator npc? Its logical is simple and not hard to implement at all.
-Guild Storage
- 2-handed swords and axes, and why a not a one-handed mace?
- 2 dyeable colors for a given piece of armor, its like: Why the Paragon armors have to be all white with [color] details? ID love to have it blue and silver (and that would add more ways of customizing a characters appearance)
-Night and day, with ilumination changes and events, mobs belonging to each.
-More smooth advancing to level cap, something equal or faster than Prophecies but slower than Factions.
Well..I think thats enough for the moment..
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| QUOTE | They should make the character's level into lvl 25 or lvl 99 or higher than lvl 20 or something!! THEY REALLY DO!!
You think this if unfair? look:
Max armor for warrior is 80-90. This guy bought FoW armor for 1.6 million and his armor is only 90.
Theres a new armor at nightfall. Max armor now for warrior is 150. This Little newbie bought a max armor for only 10k and his armor is 150.
Yes that sounds really unfair. So... heres my idea. Anet should make a "Armor Upgrader". Like... Lets say you have 15k glads but its armor is only 80. And there is a new armor and has 150 AL. But you dont want to Get another new armor dont you? Itll be a waste of money. Now, Heres what Anet should do:
Make a "Armor Upgrader" on NightFall. Players can talk to that dude and upgrade their armor into 150 AL so they wont have to get another EXPENSIVE ARMOR.
Heres another idea:
Make swords/axes/staffs etc increas their Max dmg.
-Why? 15-22 is old now.
-How? Simple, Anet Change it.
-What will happen to my other weapons that i bought or found Expensive? Simple, Anet will change it.
Also, they should add this "little" feature for guildwars.
-Can insert Socket Power ups into the armor like Diablo 2
-Can see other players "do their thing" outside of town execpt missions.
-Superior and Major runes should not be in the trader. They should get rid of it.
-Buff the assassin =)
-Make storage More bigger
What you guys think? |
1- Characters are level 20 to make the game balanced, that will NEVER change
2- Max armor for a warrior is also made to be balanced, will not change it, i would like the link to where you saw there would be 150 armor in the next campaign
3-Damage will not change for the sake of balanced
4- "Can see other playesr "do their thing" outside of town except missions. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH SERVER SPACE THAT WOULD NEED, guild wars is only free because it requires a very small amount of server space
5- Assassins are buffed enough, treat it like a warrior and you die, simeple as that
6- Socket power ups.... this isnt diablo 2
And finally i agree with you on something, storage should be bigger.
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| 08/15/06 18:10 |
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IMO, i think the level cap should be raised. instead of unbalancing it, level 20's should get a new level everytime they get a skill point. i think also that instead of 150 armor, 110 would be fine. and an armor upgrader would be fine, but u would still have to buy the difference in materials and half the amount of cash. wands and staffs, etc. don't really need buffing since most attacks are like +24 dmg. Again, its IMO.
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| QUOTE | | IMO, i think the level cap should be raised. instead of unbalancing it, level 20's should get a new level everytime they get a skill point. i think also that instead of 150 armor, 110 would be fine. and an armor upgrader would be fine, but u would still have to buy the difference in materials and half the amount of cash. wands and staffs, etc. don't really need buffing since most attacks are like +24 dmg. Again, its IMO. |
Then what would be the point of the level raise? Just for show? I personally dont want to see my party list with all diff levels... a straight row of 20 just looks nice. However if we really want to show off how long we've been lvl 20s. There should be a tiny counter of how many skill points we've "leveled up" after 20, and be able to announce using ctrl+ __
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| QUOTE | They should make the character's level into lvl 25 or lvl 99 or higher than lvl 20 or something!! THEY REALLY DO!!
You think this if unfair? look:
Max armor for warrior is 80-90. This guy bought FoW armor for 1.6 million and his armor is only 90. |
Well... You can buy the 90 armor for 1.5k ea at droknars... the platemail or dragon. FoW is about the look not about the stats. Kaening, house, and cavalon have the same armors.
It's not unfair and Anet already has armor upgrades just not as a npc. Before the release of factions, all the warrior armors were upgraded. The max armor is actually 100 so far ( sentinel armor)
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| 08/16/06 01:40 |
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-Player Level is and should stay at 20. In order to keep the balance, everything would have to increase, which is redundant.
-150 AL? I seriously doubt that. It would unbalance so many things. It would be extremely unfair for the other classes as they would be weak against such armor.
-Armor Updater: Could happen, but if Anet needs a Gold Sink, it won't happen.
-They don't need to change anything about armor/weapon upgrades. And 'Socket Power Ups' doesn't go with the theme for GW.
-I like the private enviroments as they are. I'm not a fan of PK'ers and Quest Stealers.
-Huh? No more Superior/Major Runes? Why? If you don't like them, don't use them. I like to use Superior and Major runes all the time. The health loss is no big deal at all.
-Storage should be bigger, I agree.
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hello everyone
not bad ideas at all here is what i think though
i deffintly agree more storage space
i see ur point with the armor idea. but the armor, wepons, and lvl cap are fine were they are. i would like them to raise all that stuff but its not a prioridy but if they do rasie lvls then that could mean more content, whos knows there is pros and cons to both so i dont care what they do with the next game, ill play it either way.
if u wont to rasie armor or wepons then u almost have to raise the lvl cap, others wise u have a inbalence in the game
why take away major/ sup runes they are as much a part of the game as anything else. you take a chance u take useing em so i dont get why u would take em out
the assasion donest need buffs
its would be cool to watch people outside but its pointless in my book
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I think, that they should scrap levels totally. In factions you could get to lvl 20 in 1 hour so if they wanted to skip the leveling process they should cut it and have everyone the same lvl, seeing as level makes no difference. Although I don't know this would effect enemies of a higher level.
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the only thing i want is more pve instances like sorrows furance ( i loved that place)
and *drumroll*
MOUNTS like horses and bears ,birds even
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if anet removed leveling, they would have to remove surivor title too.
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| 08/16/06 05:18 |
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| QUOTE | -Player Level is and should stay at 20. In order to keep the balance, everything would have to increase, which is redundant.
-150 AL? I seriously doubt that. It would unbalance so many things. It would be extremely unfair for the other classes as they would be weak against such armor.
-Armor Updater: Could happen, but if Anet needs a Gold Sink, it won't happen.
-They don't need to change anything about armor/weapon upgrades. And 'Socket Power Ups' doesn't go with the theme for GW.
-I like the private enviroments as they are. I'm not a fan of PK'ers and Quest Stealers.
-Huh? No more Superior/Major Runes? Why? If you don't like them, don't use them. I like to use Superior and Major runes all the time. The health loss is no big deal at all.
-Storage should be bigger, I agree. |
I meant like this, They should take away the superior and major runes out of the trader! Because buying it off the Rune trader is like too easy and i rather want it to be found so itll be "Rare" you know???
and about the 150 AL. I just made that up!! I used that as an example of upgrading the armor! Ok lets pretend the max armor in nightfall is now 110 AL OK??????? AND NOT 150 AL. Ok how about that.
Then... if their's quest stealers then Hostile that noob and kill him... DUH XD
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | They should make the character's level into lvl 25 or lvl 99 or higher than lvl 20 or something!! THEY REALLY DO!!
You think this if unfair? look:
Max armor for warrior is 80-90. This guy bought FoW armor for 1.6 million and his armor is only 90.
Theres a new armor at nightfall. Max armor now for warrior is 150. This Little newbie bought a max armor for only 10k and his armor is 150.
Yes that sounds really unfair. So... heres my idea. Anet should make a "Armor Upgrader". Like... Lets say you have 15k glads but its armor is only 80. And there is a new armor and has 150 AL. But you dont want to Get another new armor dont you? Itll be a waste of money. Now, Heres what Anet should do:
Make a "Armor Upgrader" on NightFall. Players can talk to that dude and upgrade their armor into 150 AL so they wont have to get another EXPENSIVE ARMOR.
Heres another idea:
Make swords/axes/staffs etc increas their Max dmg.
-Why? 15-22 is old now.
-How? Simple, Anet Change it.
-What will happen to my other weapons that i bought or found Expensive? Simple, Anet will change it.
Also, they should add this "little" feature for guildwars.
-Can insert Socket Power ups into the armor like Diablo 2
-Can see other players "do their thing" outside of town execpt missions.
-Superior and Major runes should not be in the trader. They should get rid of it.
-Buff the assassin =)
-Make storage More bigger
What you guys think? |
1- Characters are level 20 to make the game balanced, that will NEVER change
2- Max armor for a warrior is also made to be balanced, will not change it, i would like the link to where you saw there would be 150 armor in the next campaign
3-Damage will not change for the sake of balanced
4- "Can see other playesr "do their thing" outside of town except missions. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH SERVER SPACE THAT WOULD NEED, guild wars is only free because it requires a very small amount of server space
5- Assassins are buffed enough, treat it like a warrior and you die, simeple as that
6- Socket power ups.... this isnt diablo 2
And finally i agree with you on something, storage should be bigger. |
No i dont have any idea how much server space it would need. Then, Why dont they get another server or something? I play Guildwars not because it is free. And maybe they .. Oh nvm.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | I haven't heard anything about the max armor level being raised, please link me to a quote from Anet with them saying it. otherwise, i won't believe you.
swords/axes/staves/etc are fine where they are now. again, GW is about individual skill and cooperation, it's not about the armor or items you have. if it was, why not just call it world of warcraft?
what's wrong with sup/major runes?
assassins are good when used right, but this is only .1% of the time, so i say just leave the sins alone |
Totally agree, especially about the 150 armour level, if you're going to quote stuff like that, put a link, otherwise people are gonna think your'e making crap up. |
There is no Link, i used that "!50 AL" as an example!!
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My Warrior has 150 armor sometimes, Physical Resistance + 100AL + Watch Yourself + Defy Pain + Dolyak Signet. Well Actually thats more like 40+100+20+20+38=218AL vs physical and like 190 vs elemental.
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| 08/16/06 09:37 |
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| QUOTE | Then... if their's quest stealers then Hostile that noob and kill him... DUH XD
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do you know how bad that would be?
there would be lvl 5's in ascalon or shing jea getting owned by lvl 20's.
thats the good thing about everyone group having their own private area when they go out to do some quests etc.
Would you really want someone randomly coming up to you and killing you?
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i dont know if they planned this to make us play longer .. but if they did it was a terrible miscalculation in my opinion
if they want us to play longer.. give us reason to
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personally... i play guildwars because it's the way it is.
if you put in even one of those changes (except for the last two) it would turn into a completely different game, and i doubt half of the people would find it as much fun.
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The only thing in your suggestions that might have the slightest chance of happening is the storage upgrade.
Armor increase, max dmg increase, raise lvl cap, have all been explained very detailed above. It won't happen, nor is there any reason why it should.
Sins are fine the way they are, there's just so many people who don't know how to play one properly.
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| 08/16/06 10:13 |
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soulless tears
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| RE: Nightfall Idea. COME SEE!! |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | -Player Level is and should stay at 20. In order to keep the balance, everything would have to increase, which is redundant.
-150 AL? I seriously doubt that. It would unbalance so many things. It would be extremely unfair for the other classes as they would be weak against such armor.
-Armor Updater: Could happen, but if Anet needs a Gold Sink, it won't happen.
-They don't need to change anything about armor/weapon upgrades. And 'Socket Power Ups' doesn't go with the theme for GW.
-I like the private enviroments as they are. I'm not a fan of PK'ers and Quest Stealers.
-Huh? No more Superior/Major Runes? Why? If you don't like them, don't use them. I like to use Superior and Major runes all the time. The health loss is no big deal at all.
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I meant like this, They should take away the superior and major runes out of the trader! Because buying it off the Rune trader is like too easy and i rather want it to be found so itll be "Rare" you know???
and about the 150 AL. I just made that up!! I used that as an example of upgrading the armor! Ok lets pretend the max armor in nightfall is now 110 AL OK??????? AND NOT 150 AL. Ok how about that.
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There is really no reason to make all runes a drop because it would just be a waste since most of the only runes that are worth a big amount of cash is the monk runes and the vigor. For people just wanting to get a sup rune for thier class and did have drop would have to go on farmimg trips just find a sup dom rune . Rune traders are just convinet plus I think rune drops would incourage more farming which anet I think is trying to limt and if there was a open plane for all players you could a)get killed b)need a bigger sever c)might have to listen to any noob that feels like spamming you .
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| 08/16/06 10:52 |
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SpacedRabbit
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| QUOTE | | They should make the character's level into lvl 25 or lvl 99 or higher than lvl 20 or something!! THEY REALLY DO!! |
no. as been said, youre missing the point of GW
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Make swords/axes/staffs etc increas their Max dmg.
-Why? 15-22 is old now.
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O dear god, lets change the entire infrastructure of the game because the numbers "15" and "22" bore you. And as been said, no point in uping max of staffs and wands
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-Can insert Socket Power ups into the armor like Diablo 2
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go play diablo 2. we have upgrades. though i wouldnt mind shield, offhand, and wand upgrades.
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-Can see other players "do their thing" outside of town execpt missions.
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terrible idea.
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-Superior and Major runes should not be in the trader. They should get rid of it.
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to inflate prices of sup vigor to 100k+ecto? no thanks.
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-Buff the assassin =)
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How bout just getting better with the assassin. some of them are incredibly good.
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-Make storage More bigger
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I whole heartedly agree. not too big though, maybe add 2-3 more rows. or alternatively, have specialized storage tabs that dont take away space from each other, e.g. dye shelf, armor closet, or weapons rack.
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| 08/17/06 16:22 |
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