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ianbriley
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No Please read this before you post...
I want people's opians and ideas, no accusing, no ranting, flaming, I want clean and consertive replys about the huge change Factions Luxon/Kurzick boundries. Anyone that breaks these rules are open to negitive ratings on there posts.
So first question do you like seeing the map change, I do because I got tired seeing the lock.
Secondly what do you think Anet will do this about? We've always been complaning about the lack of map moveage.
Thats all I have in mind right now I'll post more questions, and reamember the rules.
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| 08/15/06 18:12 |
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The Quick One
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lol seems like this is the kurzick revenge from saying FA(Fort Aspenwood) is rigged for luxons (which its not) all that happened is that the luxons slipped up on the ab and the kurzick guilds took advantage of it. No they didn't fix ab's becasue if you kurzick you cant join on a luxon ab unless you get and invite from a luxon guild im assumeing. Hope they get better I want to see what its like if luxons win a whole lot in kurzick area ;)
Edit: lol got off topic but imo I love to see the map change from the usally 4 maps that got boring.
Anet wont do anything the luxons got to do it.
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| 08/15/06 18:19 |
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Bacon
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I loved seeing the map change since: 1) I'm a Kurzick guy and 2) Its about time the line finally shifted!.
I hope doesn't do anything about the line and where it is now, the game is player based and the only way the line should change should be with the ability of the Luxon players and not the powers of the GMs. If the opposite had happened, would you want the line to be changed by ANet? And also on a sidenote, its not our, Kurzicks, fault that Luxons aren't fareing well in battle.
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| 08/15/06 18:21 |
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The Imperialist
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well, the luxons were the ones losing sooo, i don't think Anet will actually do anything. But I regularly switch be tween Luxon and Kurzick guilds. If u play on the Luxon side, sometimes you'll see Kurzicks capping so by the time you get fighting it will all ready be Kurzicks=5 Lux=2. But on the Kurzick side I didn't see any possible way of doing what i just mentioned. As much as i love the Kurzicks, some groups are exploitng a glitch... And i like the maps change of pace. It got rundudant just being Grenz, Saltspray and Etnaran. A Kaanai Canyon is purty. Lolz
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| 08/15/06 18:21 |
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i really don't care about the map changes but while we're on the topic i have another question: does it stop ppl (luxon) from doing certain things?
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| 08/15/06 18:27 |
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evil geek
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| QUOTE | | some groups are exploitng a glitch |
Lets keep reminding Anet of what that glitch is, if its being exploited then it upsets the balance and that is something Anet really strives hard to retain. We know they read forums on a reguler basis, the more they are informed the more info they have to work with, exposing it may mean an increase in it's use in the short term but ultimately will mean it being fixed :)
ianbriley thanks for trying to encourage our fellow members to treat this topic and each other with respect - one topic has already been locked, lets treat this one more seriously so it doesn't have to follow.
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| 08/15/06 18:28 |
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ianbriley
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Yea it does stop people from certain things like mechants in the occuppied towns. They say that the Kurzicks are wanting to slauter everyone in town and they can sell or buy stuff from you.
One I'm Thrilled with the map change, got tired of seeing locked map, and two it'll be interesting to see what Anet does and two what the Luxons will do to counteract the Kurzicks.
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| QUOTE | | ianbriley thanks for trying to encourage our fellow members to treat this topic and each other with respect - one topic has already been locked, lets treat this one more seriously so it doesn't have to follow. |
Thank you sir, will do. Also I've felt that something need to be weasy to tip the balance so it make the game more interesting, like the boundries for expample.
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| 08/15/06 18:30 |
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Keo
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Personally I don't get this huge shift, our guild has been pumping Faction in all day and we clocked up about 100k this aft alone. I lost 1 out of a dozen AB's and most of those were in the order of 500/250ish. If the Kurzicks side were all playing the same that means that the Luxons were winning at a staggering rate overall.
In our guild we have our ideas about why the line has moved so dramatically but I can't understand why it hasn't stopped?!?
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| 08/15/06 18:37 |
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The Imperialist
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | some groups are exploitng a glitch |
Lets keep reminding Anet of what that glitch is, if its being exploited then it upsets the balance and that is something Anet really strives hard to retain. We know they read forums on a reguler basis, the more they are informed the more info they have to work with, exposing it may mean an increase in it's use in the short term but ultimately will mean it being fixed :)
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Well I already said what the glitch was, but I don't think its that exposed. I did 6 AB's in a row and not a single group used the "glitch". I'm just curious how they do it. When I was at the front gate it was sealed and my usual playing with the lever did nothing. Hmmm... awkward.
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| 08/15/06 18:43 |
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ianbriley
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Well Luxons Just won back Breakers Hollow, Maybe The Luxons will march into Kurzick lands now... This will be most interesting, also it was cool when the Luxons took back Breakcs Cuz a bunch of Luxon Guards came in and attacked the Kurzick Guards, it was prety cool.
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| 08/15/06 18:48 |
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i dont know what has changed, either anet changed the way the line moves, or something. I have had factions since the weekend it was released, i have never seen it move this drastically. I played ab's this weekend as a kurzick guest, and was about 50/50 with pug teams, ... Kurzicks didnt all of a sudden get this good, nor luxons this bad... so imho, something fundamentally has changed. Hopefully it was a fair change that is simply the map moves in great amounts each win, and it will waver enough to see now.
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| 08/15/06 19:30 |
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i started the other topic and it got out of hand....but honestly, something fishy is definetly going on here. a shift this big just doesn't happen all of a sudden, the luxons lost 3 outposts.
another exploit. which has been bragged about by people that the kurzick guilds are supposedly sending people to the luxon side and starting ABs then losing on purpose to do these shifts. names have been sent to ANET, but it's doubtful if there is any real way of tracking this.
ANET needs to look into this.
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| 08/15/06 20:03 |
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I dont have factions yet :'( But from reading about it the Kurzick/Luxon alliance battles seem like sooooo much fun. With the line changing and it effects Globablly.
I really hope to get factions soon. I'll probably join the side thats loosing, so i can get a harder expirence.
I like how in games how it can constantly change. In other games everything stays the same. If/When i buy Factions this feature i'll use to the fullest :)
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| 08/15/06 20:16 |
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I'm glad that I finnalyget to see the line move rather then the old deadlock. I've been abing on the new map and only lost 1 out of 5 battles . I still think ethan is the hardest for me when im playing . I do hope that the glitch other kurzicks guild have reportly been will be fixed but i havent seen ne abusing of it lately anet plz take notice of it and fix it plz.
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| 08/15/06 20:31 |
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When i was luxon, i just switched to kurzick, kurzicks we're racking up the points at an astounding rate, faster then i have ever seen them do, i do not know if this is the "glitch" but i do know that theyve done something an ele did 250 dmg with phoenix on my ele who has 15k pyromancer... it doesnt seem like it'd be possible with the defense to fire damage and elemental damage.
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| 08/15/06 20:59 |
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ianbriley
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What Anet should do is post how, the key word here is how, the line is effected, like whats the formula for making the line change there for maybe guilds could set up tasks with in their alliance to help the war effort, like this guild Faction farms, while this one fights on the front, while this guild focus on Jade Quarry. But I think it would be usefull if Anet posted how the line works and what effects it.
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| 08/15/06 21:34 |
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my guidl has been winning abs all day we are luxon and cant under stand whats going on. as for the area change altho i like to see the kurzicks having fun most of them are taking this power to seriosly. i mean i step in brekaers and a bunch of kurzicks start mauling me wit hate pms and insults aobut my guild.
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| 08/15/06 21:40 |
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its been a few hours since ive played so im not sure where the border is. regardlessly im a luxon and i seriously hope tht anet doesnt do any thing to intervene (auto moving the border back). even if the kurz were using an exploit
i did like 6 ABs today and only in a few did i see the kurz using an exploit. i hope that anet fixes this as it gives the kurz a very large advantage.
either way anet should clairify the specifics of how the lux/kurz border works.
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| 08/15/06 23:01 |
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there's the map the last time i logged in
it looks like the luxon land is crying =P
I found it sort of nice because I could finally buy something from leviathin pits w/out having lots of Luxon faction. I think accusing the Kurzick of cheating is just making up excuses for losing. If you lose, just admit you lost. Don't blame other people for your mistakes. When I lose in Fort Aspenwood, I don't blame the map. I've won in FA before just by clearing out the entire puruple side just using minions =P
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| 08/15/06 23:34 |
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I found it sort of nice because I could finally buy something from leviathin pits w/out having lots of Luxon faction. I think accusing the Kurzick of cheating is just making up excuses for losing. If you lose, just admit you lost. Don't blame other people for your mistakes. When I lose in Fort Aspenwood, I don't blame the map. I've won in FA before just by clearing out the entire puruple side just using minions =P |
i'm luxon and i can still goto the leviathan pits and still buy weapons from there. i don't think the weapons guy is specific to alliance apparently. everyone else in the town is like "the kurzick dogs are just looking for an excuse to slaughter everyone".
i heard one or two people bragging about sending people to the luxon side to loose on purpose and so have many other people..and they have been reported, but again...i doubt there is a real way of tracking this.
but i would say the maturity level of the kurzicks coming to those towns and the comments being said, proves that these are immature players and that they are more or less probably taking advantage of the exploit(s).
i was going to go kurzick with one of my characters along time ago. but could never find people to do quests and the missions. all they wanted was people for Faction Farming. so i'll stick with the legetimate players of the Luxons. i don't see luxons all in the towns saying "LF FF" all day...if at all. always people looking to do the quests and enjoy playing the game.
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| 08/16/06 06:16 |
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Well whatever is goin on the Luxons have pushed the line almost all the way back. With any luck we can keep pushing all the way to Arbourstone!!
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| 08/16/06 06:40 |
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there's the map the last time i logged in
it looks like the luxon land is crying =P
I found it sort of nice because I could finally buy something from leviathin pits w/out having lots of Luxon faction. I think accusing the Kurzick of cheating is just making up excuses for losing. If you lose, just admit you lost. Don't blame other people for your mistakes. When I lose in Fort Aspenwood, I don't blame the map. I've won in FA before just by clearing out the entire puruple side just using minions =P |
WTF!!! i havnt played in a couple weeks and this is what happened? Anyway on the lux side we have alot of bad abers imo. U will always hear 1 team say all go 4 roost and 4get rez points which sets us up 4 a loss. AS 4 eternan 1 group always says mob up which doesnt work most of the time unless the kurz side is bad at that point. I have also notice that kurzick has a lot more monks and mms on their side than luxons. Anyway unless kurz pushes back lux all the way 2 cavalon only then i doubt anet will fix it.
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| 08/16/06 06:46 |
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| QUOTE | | What Anet should do is post how, the key word here is how, the line is effected, like whats the formula for making the line change there for maybe guilds could set up tasks with in their alliance to help the war effort, like this guild Faction farms, while this one fights on the front, while this guild focus on Jade Quarry. But I think it would be usefull if Anet posted how the line works and what effects it. |
from wiki...
Every three hours, the nation that has won more Alliance Battles moves the battle lines and takes territory away from the opposing nation.
Outposts on either side are sorted in order of value. When an alliance accumulates enough faction with their respective side, they will take over the lowest outpost in value. As they gain more they will begin to overtake alliances in the higher value outposts pushing them down to the lower value outposts.
The order they're in
1. Durheim Archives
2. Vasburg Armory
3. Brauer Academy
4. Lutgardis Conservatory
5. Saint Anjeka's Shrine
6. Tanglewood Copse
7. Amatz Basin
8. Altrumm Ruins
9. House zu Heltzer
1. Harvest Temple
2. Seafarer's Rest
3. Leviathan Pits
4. Eredon Terrace
5. Bai Paasu Reach
6. Breaker Hollow
7. Zos Shivros Channel
8. The Aurios Mines
9. Cavalon
so basically the luxons have to push the kurzicks back fast if the kurzicks have control of The Aurios Mines ;) (if they dont want to lose cavalon)
edit: full pages are: here, and here.
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| 08/16/06 07:52 |
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Heres what the map looked like before the Luxons took back Breakers Hollow.
EDIT: Okay it wont show the image, well if yea want to see it just go to my profile look at the image gallery and then click the one that says "Wow the map changed."
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| 08/16/06 09:37 |
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