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sped13

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55 Monk Challange

55 monks this is a chance to prove your invincibility! 1k goes to the person that can beat my W/Mo in the best 2 of 3. The more challanges I get the more the prize will increase. For every one 55 I beat 500g will go into the grand prize pot. Rules are you must be a 55 monk and you must give an entry fee of 1k. If you win i will give you that 1k back with the prize money. I am doing it like this so that no one can scam me if they are beaten. Please leave you IGN and best time for you to battle if you are interested.

08/25/06 09:37

imnotstupid two

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

not to be synical but it sounds like a scam to begin with

08/25/06 09:42

johny bravo

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

Not a pro 55 monk but the real questino is can a 55 kill you but can you kill the 55.

the whole idea behind most 55 builds is that you get attacked and they do damage to themselves (SoJ, Sliver armor, SS,) Not to sure about the mes 55 build as I have never played it.

Now I am not saying it isn't possible to beat you, lke I said im not a pro by any means, but unless you decide to attack constantly most 55s have no means of doing damage.

Good luck to whoever may try, but I have one question. Since you know you are going up against a 55 are you bringing enchant removal?

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08/25/06 09:42

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

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he said he's bringing his WAMMO no enchant removal on a wammo, ill give it a go Monk Two One O

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08/25/06 09:44

Snail From Hell

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

he can't as a w/mo

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08/25/06 09:45

CaptainBobby

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

how do you plan on killing the monk? all they have to do is bring mantra of resolve you wont be able to kill them....ever.

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08/25/06 09:45

dikke hamster

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

Erm If the 55 monk uses SoJ, you just don't attack so...
No one will win, so this is just a endurance contest:P

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08/25/06 09:55

The True Myth

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

I know build that can beat most 55 monks with W/Mo. but i wont tell you it, since i think its not fair to the monks :)

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08/25/06 10:01

sped13

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

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not to be synical but it sounds like a scam to begin with

it does a bit but scaming is a real stupid way to make money i would rather earn it thru farming or running people or thru challanges like this

08/25/06 12:21

sped13

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

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how do you plan on killing the monk? all they have to do is bring mantra of resolve you wont be able to kill them....ever.

but mantra has drawbacks i am sure they arent going to put alot into illusion magic so it all has to do with timeing you just got to read the signs on when to strike

08/25/06 12:26

Rogue

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

keep in mind... 55 monk just means you need to have 55 health and be a monk... you don't have to use SoJ as an elite.

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08/25/06 12:32

Bubbada Muse

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

illusionary weaponry ftw.

08/25/06 12:38

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

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illusionary weaponry ftw.

That wouldnt work(or at least it SHOULDNT) Protective spirit blocks skills like Vile Touch, which say Target foe takes XX dmg.

Illusionary Weaponry also says you deal no dmg, instead, target foe takes XX damage.

NOTE: I've never tested it, but going off the fact that Vile Touch is blocked and it basically is the same dmg type as IW, IW shouldnt work.

Besides, he said WAMMO, therfore IW isnt an option.

Update in whenever I dont feel lazy.

08/25/06 12:50

Octivous Servil

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

Illusionary Weaponry can be used by the 55 monk to win...that's why it's mentioned

I still dont see how, unless there are some skills that I haven't examined throughly, anyone would win. If somebody does take the challenge, I would like to know the outcome (details ofcourse; but not neccesarily the skill).

08/25/06 13:05

GodspeedX

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

It is a bit to easy to kill a 55 on a 1 vs 1 imo... just wait until he cast is stuff, wait, wait, wait.... without getting beat up, the monk have nearly no energy regen, therefore being unable to cast prot spirit and bam, 1 shot and the 55 is dead....

I might be wrong...but I might be right....

08/25/06 13:15

Octivous Servil

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

Counter: Mantra of Resolve, Blessed Sig

Ofcourse, depends on what upkeep enchantments you use...there are about 5 different combinations that i use with the 2-4 upkeep enchantments

08/25/06 13:18

CaptainBobby

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

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Actually the monk only needs Protective Spirit and Mending to stay alive because its only 1 person attacking him

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08/25/06 13:18

mwpeck

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

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Actually the monk only needs Protective Spirit and Mending to stay alive because its only 1 person attacking him

Yup, and with those 2 skills it would be highly easy to modify the 55 to do high dmg(use other single target smiting skills with mantra).

I WAS Thinking Skull Crack + Wild Blow. You could use Wild Blow to end Mantra of Resolve. But the tricky part would be hitting PS with Skull Crack, since its pretty much instant cast. Skull crack hits instantly BUT it would take a lot of attempts to see them cast PS and react by hitting Skull Crack in less then 1/4th of a second.

It really depends on what build each of them go, as the Wammo could have something the monk isnt expecting, on the same note then monk could do something the wammo isnt expecting.

Update in whenever I dont feel lazy.

08/25/06 20:22

cswella

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

Mantra of Resolve is a stance, right? Wildblow.

Stopping Prot Spirit? Dwarven Battle Stance and Hammer KD skills.

SoJ? Balanced Stance or Dolyak Signet. And hammers attack slower than swords or axes, so the damage isn't as bad.

Or, go with Scourge Heal. I think that goes through Prot Spirit. But I'm not sure.

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08/25/06 20:39

Charlotte The Harlot

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

you dont have to b a prot spirit 55 monk u could use prot bond or you could just use like crip anguish and interupts and run away

08/25/06 21:09

mwpeck

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

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Good points, although all you would have to do as the monk is time his hits, right after he hits with dwarven on, cast PS. and if he's knockdown, I'm pretty sure you could cast PS right after you stand up before he could knock ya down again.

Just checked on Guildwiki and Scourge ONLY damages for direct heals, like Healing Orison and Heal Party.

It also states directly that it doesnt trigger from Divine Favor or Divine Boon. Therefore the 55 isnt going to activate Scourge, unless of course he is using Orison(which would be pointless).

It also depends on who he's fighting, if the monk times it right, the warrior wont be able to kill him. I personally think at best, if both people were decent and knew the best way to use their builds, it would be a stand-still.

Update in whenever I dont feel lazy.

08/25/06 21:12

BRabbit

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

hmm well the only 2 ways to kill a 55 monk (tht i know of) are degen and disenchant. a w/mo has no disenchant so the only way for him to win would be degen and prolly conditional degen (bleed ect) alo other conditions would work too (deep wound ect). there may be sum smiting skills he may use also (dnt rlly kno much about smiting). either way this may prove to be interesting and id like to kno the results wen its over w/.

08/25/06 21:19

mwpeck

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

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Only conditional degen a warrior/monk can get is bleeding I think......deepwounds would only help becuase the monk would heal faster.

Besides, bleeding is only 3 degen, easily outdone by most 55 monks(they usually have enough for 4 regen). With 1 person attacking, lets say with a sword, in 3 seconds they hit 4 times, 20 dmg total, the monk's 1 regen it would have left over would heal only 6 damage in that same time, BUT a single cast of PS would bring his health all the way up.

My 55 monk however(the build i use), would have 2 regen with bleeding(and NO healing breeze) therefore i could go twice as long without having to cast PS to heal(thats not accounting for the length of PS). Best part is, I would only have 8 points in healing therefore I would have enough extra to bump 1 of my others up once or twice. (I save an extra 46 attribute points with 8 healing)

Update in whenever I dont feel lazy.

08/25/06 22:31

BRabbit

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

yea ur right bleed is the only war degen and smiting hasnt much to offer. just read cswella's post and tht is prolly what his build will look like.

08/25/06 23:09

NecroRebel

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

Well, for 1 on 1 stuff, just bring Prot Spirit and Balth's Spirit for defense and you've got it made. It's almost impossible for a W/Mo to disable Prot Spirit, and you'll maintain a significant amount of energy regeneration (enough to recast Prot Spirit every 10 seconds, which more than covers its duration) and with reasonable amounts of Divine Favor each casting of Prot Spirit would bring you to full health. That leaves you 6 more skills to deal with any special stuff he might try. If he attacks, you can recast prot spirit before he can kill you, and if he doesn't attack, you can recast prot spirit before he can kill you. There is a way around this that he can use, but I won't share ;)

Hmm... For the other skillslots, I'd say take an adrenal-based block% stance (specifically Bonetti's Defense), probably a knockdown protection effect (specifically Balanced Stance), and a signet-based smite build to conserve energy (Rage Signet, Bane Signet, Judgement Signet), and the last slot Disrupting Chop to disable the enemy's heal sig or other healing skills.

Anyone else have any ideas? Or does sped13 believe he can defeat this build? If so, I'd like to hear it because I can't think of any, not with a W/Mo character.

08/25/06 23:23

coffee addict

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

hmmm... i dont use any 55 monk cuz i dont know any build... but i think warrior has the edge here... he can easily use wild blow for stances and i think the monk will probably die due to lack of energy or cant cast spells... and i think most of the time the monk will probably spend his time healing his/her self... being a 55 monk its like lowering ur hp to get killed by another player easily imo...

sorry about my grammar

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08/26/06 00:04

sped13

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

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Or does sped13 believe he can defeat this build? If so, I'd like to hear it because I can't think of any, not with a W/Mo character.

i offered the challange so yeah i think i can take it

08/26/06 00:32

shimtek

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

Any build with a few disruption skills can kill a 55 monk. 55 monk isnt a PvP build, its meant for tanking large groups of enemys that preferably have no mesmer skills or much disruption.

55 monk is by no means invincible. If it were it would be used in pvp.

so what a pointless idea this is.

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08/26/06 00:32

Charlotte The Harlot

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

if he looses he looses no money if he wins he makes 1k if he looses aftr winning he looses 500g per battle won so he cant loose ne cash just nothing to loose for him im assuming his strategy will b using a vamp weapon and hopefully kding or knocking u down sumhow or just plain scamming u.

08/26/06 01:52

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RE: 55 Monk Challange

EDIT: removed build for sake of the challenge.

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