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Wasabithegosu
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i was wondering if dark/regen stalker would be any good. i know that dark is mainly for brutes and such i thought that maybe the -tohitbuff on it will make you extremly hard to hit and if someone does land a hit on you u can heal it back extremely fast.. i used hero builder and it didnt seem like a bad idea. also, Dark melee has the highest DPS and would be very good to scrap with.. i know that stalkers arent scrappers and are meant to hit and run but the times that i dueled a stalker they had to scrap with me b/c hit and run didnt work (invulnerability...) i dueled a dark/dark brute w/my ss/inv brute and i couldnt even scratch him despite the 2 slots of tohitbuff on my rage and invincibility as well as 3 slotted KO blow and such.. i duno.. jst a thought
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| 09/14/06 05:33 |
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| QUOTE | | i was wondering if dark/regen stalker would be any good. i know that dark is mainly for brutes and such i thought that maybe the -tohitbuff on it will make you extremly hard to hit and if someone does land a hit on you u can heal it back extremely fast.. i used hero builder and it didnt seem like a bad idea. also, Dark melee has the highest DPS and would be very good to scrap with.. i know that stalkers arent scrappers and are meant to hit and run but the times that i dueled a stalker they had to scrap with me b/c hit and run didnt work (invulnerability...) i dueled a dark/dark brute w/my ss/inv brute and i couldnt even scratch him despite the 2 slots of tohitbuff on my rage and invincibility as well as 3 slotted KO blow and such.. i duno.. jst a thought |
Well, I'll clear one thing up for you regarding the highest DPS concept. This may be true because there are very few anywhere that actually have a resistance to Negative Energy damage. This is giving the impression that it does so much damage. In reality, Dark does good damage, but there are better for overall damage (Energy Melee, Martial Arts). It's just the least resisted.
Another thing about Stalkers, they have issues with overall accuracy (just like Scrappers). You'll miss a lot, but when properly slotted, you'll be ok. Again, you just have to know the powerset you are facing in order to figure out its limitations.
I'd take a SS/Invul against just about any other Brute and I'll find a way to come out on top. SS deals a crap load of damage, only second to Energy Melee. Like in the other post, with Invul PvP, you need to take all of the shields because you just don't know what you'll run accross in the PvP arena so you just have to be prepared.
However, back to topic. Dark/Regen, haven't tried that combo, however, It sounds like a nice build. With Negative Energy being the least resist around, it will deal a lot of damage, and with the damage you take, the Regen will bump up the healing factor. Only thing I warn...Radiation Corruptors. They will drop anyones defense/regen/recharge rates. Those pesky little devils! Be ready to compensate for that (Negative deals in -acc, so strike first and strike hard).
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| 09/14/06 06:40 |
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Wasabithegosu
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well the thing is with dark the attacks like midnight grasp come up every 15 seconds and that attack does superior dmg over time and while that attack is doin its thing you can do your other attacks. but im kinda skeptic about it b/c i have heard of some people being 1 or 2 hit in RV... and i plan on doin some heavy PvP
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COV- lvl 37 ss/inv brute
lvl 45 dark/inv brute
lvl 22 ss/en brute
lvl 50 em/elec brute
lvl 36 ice/rad corr
COH- lvl 15 ar/dev blaster
lvl 12 dark/sr scrapper
lvl 41 ice/em tanker
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| 09/14/06 10:13 |
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| QUOTE | | well the thing is with dark the attacks like midnight grasp come up every 15 seconds and that attack does superior dmg over time and while that attack is doin its thing you can do your other attacks. but im kinda skeptic about it b/c i have heard of some people being 1 or 2 hit in RV... and i plan on doin some heavy PvP |
1 shotting players have been done away with, but 2 shotting players is possible (AS strike with a follow-up attack). However, You can always take the fighting pool to add a little more defense to your Stalker, if you see the need to do so.
If you want to cycle powers faster, you can get Hasten and 3 slot with Recharge SOs, that'll make it pretty much perma (only downfall is the End consumption in a fight). The whole object of PvP, with a Stalker anyways, is to not be there to be attacked. Stay hidden as long as possible, and at the last minute, AS and have that second attack already cued to fire. Now, if you're fighting a Tank or Brute, I'm sure the fight will last a tad bit longer than that.
This is why I like the Ninjitsu secondary, caltrops, smoke flash, blinding powder and even Retsu: mob control (slows them down around you, hide you, confuse and hide you, and makes you unhittable...increases your recharge, regen and recovery, +run speed as well, respectively. It also has a +per in the ranged defense. The only thing is, you'd need to pick up acrobatics for the knockdown/back defense.
You see, there are many options to choose from when building a PvP toon, you just have to find the right one to suite your playing style.
Once you come up with the concept, why don't you post the build so everyone can give more help on what you're planning on rolling with.
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| 09/14/06 11:14 |
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Wasabithegosu
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | well the thing is with dark the attacks like midnight grasp come up every 15 seconds and that attack does superior dmg over time and while that attack is doin its thing you can do your other attacks. but im kinda skeptic about it b/c i have heard of some people being 1 or 2 hit in RV... and i plan on doin some heavy PvP |
1 shotting players have been done away with, but 2 shotting players is possible (AS strike with a follow-up attack). However, You can always take the fighting pool to add a little more defense to your Stalker, if you see the need to do so.
If you want to cycle powers faster, you can get Hasten and 3 slot with Recharge SOs, that'll make it pretty much perma (only downfall is the End consumption in a fight). The whole object of PvP, with a Stalker anyways, is to not be there to be attacked. Stay hidden as long as possible, and at the last minute, AS and have that second attack already cued to fire. Now, if you're fighting a Tank or Brute, I'm sure the fight will last a tad bit longer than that.
This is why I like the Ninjitsu secondary, caltrops, smoke flash, blinding powder and even Retsu: mob control (slows them down around you, hide you, confuse and hide you, and makes you unhittable...increases your recharge, regen and recovery, +run speed as well, respectively. It also has a +per in the ranged defense. The only thing is, you'd need to pick up acrobatics for the knockdown/back defense.
You see, there are many options to choose from when building a PvP toon, you just have to find the right one to suite your playing style.
Once you come up with the concept, why don't you post the build so everyone can give more help on what you're planning on rolling with. |
thats exactly why i didnt want energy melee.. 1 shotting isnt as good as it used to be so basicly u have to sort of scrap and run. i used hero builder to see how it would look like and with weave and other defenses it comes out to around 18% i believe but the real beaty is the heal factor and the -tohitbuffs. beating squishies will still be viable.. touch of fear if they try to get away and then placate and AS! (or the equivalent assassin skill). brutes and scrappers u can still do touch of fear and such and u have an extra heal/attack/-tohit all-in-one and with all the heals running and all the -tohitbuff you will be very tough to take down.. 1v1 that is... you can use touch of fear if u need to get away and heal up.. with 4 heals (siphon life, dull pain, integration, aid self) and 6 slotted health, fast healing, integration, instant healing would be very fast health regen.
when its more than 1 or group siphon life would be a great asset but i duno how he will hold up to all the attacks..
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Guardian server
COV- lvl 37 ss/inv brute
lvl 45 dark/inv brute
lvl 22 ss/en brute
lvl 50 em/elec brute
lvl 36 ice/rad corr
COH- lvl 15 ar/dev blaster
lvl 12 dark/sr scrapper
lvl 41 ice/em tanker
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| 09/14/06 14:00 |
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Professor Crackpot
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I totally agree with Was about doing the touch of fear, placating, then hitting them again. That's one of the best methods there is for a stalker. However, I think it's pretty useless to get Aid Self as a regen stalker. You have a possibility of having 4 heal powers (reconstruction, dull pain, integration, and instant healing), so Aid Self would just be a bit too much.
City of Heroes
Lt. Tiny - Lvl 50 AR/Devices Blaster
Sensei Sushi - Lvl 32 MA/SR Scrapper
Master Tofu - Lvl 18 Katana/Invul Scrapper
Bug-Juice - Lvl 21 Fire/Fire Blaster
City of Villains
The Last Act - Lvl 42 Necrmonacy/DM Mastermind
60 Cent - Lvl 33 Thugs/Force Field Mastermind
Repkillian - Lvl 30 Claws/Regen Stalker
And gazillions of lowbies
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| 09/14/06 18:35 |
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Wasabithegosu
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| QUOTE | | I totally agree with Was about doing the touch of fear, placating, then hitting them again. That's one of the best methods there is for a stalker. However, I think it's pretty useless to get Aid Self as a regen stalker. You have a possibility of having 4 heal powers (reconstruction, dull pain, integration, and instant healing), so Aid Self would just be a bit too much. |
oh yea i forgot about instant healing.. 5 heals is alot lol. i wonder how one would rotate that out..
i have had experience with fear and its not pretty.. not many builds have resistance against it although u can just pop purples but you can only have so many =)
Guardian server
COV- lvl 37 ss/inv brute
lvl 45 dark/inv brute
lvl 22 ss/en brute
lvl 50 em/elec brute
lvl 36 ice/rad corr
COH- lvl 15 ar/dev blaster
lvl 12 dark/sr scrapper
lvl 41 ice/em tanker
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| 09/14/06 22:28 |
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Shadowruler
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I have a level 49 Dark Melee/Regen stalker on Freedom, 1 bar till 50. I love that toon so much. It's great for scrapping, great for stalking, great for PvE, great for PvP.
It's severely underrated. I haven't made a build yet, but I will once I've hit 50.
Freedom Server:
-Shadowruler, Lvl 50 Dark Melee/Regen Stalker
-Teslacution, Lvl 32 Elec/Elec Brute
-Nine Point Eight, Lvl 10 Grav/Energy Dominator
-Drakyis, Lvl 6 Ice/Dark Corruptor
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| 09/14/06 22:38 |
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Yeah, one of the best things about the Dark Set, is you don't really need a whole different build to be good in PvP and PvE. At least that's what I've heard. People with builds meant for PvE and only PvE, have gone into PvP and just totally dominated there.
City of Heroes
Lt. Tiny - Lvl 50 AR/Devices Blaster
Sensei Sushi - Lvl 32 MA/SR Scrapper
Master Tofu - Lvl 18 Katana/Invul Scrapper
Bug-Juice - Lvl 21 Fire/Fire Blaster
City of Villains
The Last Act - Lvl 42 Necrmonacy/DM Mastermind
60 Cent - Lvl 33 Thugs/Force Field Mastermind
Repkillian - Lvl 30 Claws/Regen Stalker
And gazillions of lowbies
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| 09/14/06 22:52 |
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Wasabithegosu
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there were times when dull pain was still down and i needed a heal b/c i had not greens
Guardian server
COV- lvl 37 ss/inv brute
lvl 45 dark/inv brute
lvl 22 ss/en brute
lvl 50 em/elec brute
lvl 36 ice/rad corr
COH- lvl 15 ar/dev blaster
lvl 12 dark/sr scrapper
lvl 41 ice/em tanker
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