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for those that have played nightfall, you have probably noticed that about one third of the players there are dervishes.
why is this? are they so good, or is it just because they're new? it seems to me that a warrior/dervish with a scythe would be just as effective only with higher armor. and since a lot of warrior skills (think power attack and stuff) work just as well with scythes as with swords, axes or hammers i see no reason why there are so many dervishes out there. (keeping in mind that I'm not taking skins and specialized builds into account.)
am i just retarded or is the dervish really that good?
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| 11/14/06 10:08 |
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Grunger AJ
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I thinks its the whole idea thats its new. But there isn't half as many paragon as there are dervishes. After a couple of months it will all die down.
But all proffessions are as good each other (thats the reason why the levals only got up to lv20) its just how you use them. So Dv/Wa will be as good as a Wa/Dv if you use it right.
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| 11/14/06 10:11 |
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Welcome to GameAmp. ^^ And the reason is the same reason so many Assassins was made at the beginning of Factions. It was new, and they look awesome. ^^ That is the main reason. But they are a very good class if you ask me. :)
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| 11/14/06 10:12 |
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Yes it is purely just because they are new and people want to try out new things. Later on it will balance out, many Dervishes will get deleted.
I second Kanna's opinion, I think Dervishes are great characters.
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| 11/14/06 10:13 |
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Dervish are the masters of Enchantment and have some really neat skills and builds.
As for your Warrior argument there are some reasons why people would chose Dervish as their primary:
-More Energy.
-The Ability to boost an attribute upto 16 (useful for those God Forms).
-The Mysticism primary attribute which grants 3 health and 1 energy for every 2 ranks of the attribute, everytime an enchantment ends on you.
Plus don't forget that they are new, meaning people are gonna wanna try em out.
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| 11/14/06 10:15 |
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Hey, I got nightfall the first day it came out, and made a Dervish because i wanted to try it out to see what the new proffesion was like. Now my dervish has finished the game and has 15k Primevil and im experimenting with builds for PvE and PvP.
When i created the Dervish, they were everywere on the starter island, but when i got into the main land there was hardly any there, {Probly cos there were to many on starter island and they couldnt get off it}. I think it would be harder to create dervishes NOW and complete the game because groups arent accepting them as theres to many and people think there *noobs*.{*Which probly isnt the case*}.
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| 11/14/06 10:15 |
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psychobunny
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don't get me wrong here, i think dervishes are cool and they look pretty good too. i just find it annoying that when you try to form a party for a mission you always end up with a party with four dervishes in it, just because there's no one else available.
edit: yes, swordsman that is a pretty strong argument there. maybe i should learn to think before i speak.
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| 11/14/06 10:16 |
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Dervishes can pretty much replace tanks. Easily, maybe ever better in some cases.
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| 11/14/06 10:18 |
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many people think that they are the new solo farmers.
55hp dervish, almost the same build as the 55hp monk.
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| 11/14/06 10:22 |
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| QUOTE | many people think that they are the new solo farmers.
55hp dervish, almost the same build as the 55hp monk. |
Dervishs cant be 55, cos they carry a synthe{2 handed} and the focus item is for one handed ^^
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| 11/14/06 10:24 |
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The whole Dervish Craze, and Assasin Craze is the reason why I am always a Ranger.
Seriously though. Dervish's are extremely easy to use and mastering some of the more strategic aspects of the class isn't very hard either. They can heal themselves quite frequently, and with all their enchantments and attacks, they can take on quite a few enemies at once too with no problems. Dervish enchantments aren't everything though.
Paragons, not so easy to use with most of their skills helping other members of the party, and depends mainly on the power of the party, etc., so many people went straight to the Dervish after trying out the Paragon. That and many people are wondering why Paragond have no pants on, and because of this, many people just think that the paragon looks kind of dumb (or at least I hear ingame alot),
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| 11/14/06 10:25 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | many people think that they are the new solo farmers.
55hp dervish, almost the same build as the 55hp monk. |
Dervishs cant be 55, cos they carry a synthe{2 handed} and the focus item is for one handed ^^ |
you're not forced to carry a scythe...
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| 11/14/06 10:26 |
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i think it's mostly the same as the assassin when factions came out. people make them because they think they're *pwnzor zmgod* (not an actual quote), yet they don't know how to use them. a good dervish that knows what he/she i doing can be devastating, just like the assassin. unfortunately, the average IQ in GW can sometimes be pretty low (no offence).
edit: 55hp dervish? sounds interesting, i wonder how that would work.
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| 11/14/06 10:26 |
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| QUOTE | | edit: 55hp dervish? sounds interesting, i wonder how that would work. |
Very well ;) Of course I'm working on a 105 derv...
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| 11/14/06 10:29 |
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well sounds like every is saying the samething about it being the same as the sin and yea that is the main reson for it being new and testing but alot of ppl say stuff bout the new prof. but it depends on how u play it and if u know how to play it right for it to work.
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| 11/14/06 10:33 |
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Personally, I took a dervish because I loved the animation of the character. They really worked hard on how they use the Scythe - it is animated flawlessly. I then fell in love with the completely new way of playing. Casting enchantments, stripping them, realizing I'm not totally a tank, but I can hold my own. Basically, for me it was the fact that it was a new character class, with an exciting new way to play (I've played all the other classes). When I've finished the game with the Dervish, it's on to the Paragon and another new way to play.
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| 11/14/06 10:46 |
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there is a slight problem with using a 55 dervish...if you're using mysticism...its a lil pointless really...cause you never want to let your enchants end...it usually means death if you do :P
i'm a bit confused by the dervish being able to boost an attribute to 16...O_o can't everybody...albeit tanks don't usually for sake of health but you can still easily do it :P
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| 11/14/06 10:56 |
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I just started as well and I took Dervish on a whim. I just started so no real expertise here but I agree with Beano, the animation is flawless. Now I just have to get used to the controls, attack engine, game engine, chats, and skills and attributes (I think I covered it all) but the animation rocks.
BTW Beano...I love your banner on anti 1337-Speak. I would love a link to that to add to mine. Becuase until they make a keyboard completly made of numbers, type in full english (heck I'll even forgive some typos)
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| 12/20/06 11:13 |
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Coaster, I "borrowed" it off of someone else, so go ahead and use it. Just right-click, and save the file to your HD, then upload it to a site that can host it for you.
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| 12/20/06 11:17 |
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1) dervishes, like warriors suck unless you master it. i personally made a dervish by experimenting and finding that that was the easiest to master. ive come up with several good dervish builds, and they main reason i use a dervish is regen. I can get 10 pips health regeen, 4 pips of energy regen, 70 al (very close to warrior) +10 while enchanted (im always enchanted) and i can gain up to 3 energy per attack (zealous scythe)
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| 12/20/06 11:38 |
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Dervishes Are awesome as it is. End Topic.
The real question might be "Why are paragons so lame throwing with their spears"?
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| 12/20/06 11:54 |
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| QUOTE | | i'm a bit confused by the dervish being able to boost an attribute to 16...O_o can't everybody...albeit tanks don't usually for sake of health but you can still easily do it :P |
Everyone can get certain attributes to 16, but only those of their primary class. You cannot get any of the attributes of your secondary class higher than 12. This is due to runes and headpieces. You cannot use the runes from your secondary class, and you can only get a headpiece with the attributes of your primary class. So with a superior rune and headpiece of corresponding attribute, you can get any one of your attributes of your primary class up to 16.
So a D/W can have 16 scythe mastery, whereas a W/D could only have 12 scythe mastery, but 16 tactics.
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| 12/20/06 12:08 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | edit: 55hp dervish? sounds interesting, i wonder how that would work. |
Very well ;) Of course I'm working on a 105 derv... |
Sorry, but every dervish chest piece has a +20 health inhert mod on it if I'm not wrong ;), so 125hp? ;-p
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| 12/20/06 12:56 |
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i made my dervish cos it was new, and its kinda cool having an own "reaper" :D the scythe just looks awesome, and the dervish himself 2... wanna get me 15k primevil armor!!
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| 12/20/06 13:01 |
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a W/D would not work as well as just a dervish because teh dervishs elite avatars are one of teh best parts of making a dervish. seeing as Mysticism is only a dervish attribute the avatars will only last for about 15 seconds.
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| 12/20/06 13:19 |
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uh W/D has awesome written all over it.
Multiple hits from a sythe = quick(er) adrenaline charge, which a warrior benifets more from than any dervish.
W/D Drunken & Desperate, give random conditions to everyone you hit. mass chaos right there.
think of it as a hammer warrior, but without a knockdown focus.
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| 12/29/06 07:04 |
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cause they rock :)
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| 12/29/06 07:29 |
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I just made one...I made one because i like warriors but people would always whine that i wasn't a tank...so a Dervish is like Damage Dealing and it can kind've tank!:)
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| 01/20/07 11:54 |
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| QUOTE | The whole Dervish Craze, and Assasin Craze is the reason why I am always a Ranger.
Seriously though. Dervish's are extremely easy to use and mastering some of the more strategic aspects of the class isn't very hard either. They can heal themselves quite frequently, and with all their enchantments and attacks, they can take on quite a few enemies at once too with no problems. Dervish enchantments aren't everything though.
Paragons, not so easy to use with most of their skills helping other members of the party, and depends mainly on the power of the party, etc., so many people went straight to the Dervish after trying out the Paragon. That and many people are wondering why Paragond have no pants on, and because of this, many people just think that the paragon looks kind of dumb (or at least I hear ingame alot), |
Wo dude hang if you think dervish are easy to use then your crazy yes they are easier than Paragons but If you are running an enchanter dervish then you have to watch your enchantments like crazy. I mean they are harder than a warrior and a assassin but yeah they can be complicated to use, especially in pvp.
But anyways back to the topic right know dervish’s are just a fab and their new and ppl want to use them in the next few weeks you will see less and less of them. Like what im going to do next is when I’m done with my dervish im going to take my warrior thru then my assassin then maybe my necro or ele. But you will see less and less of them. Also the reason you don’t see as many paragons is that they are mainly a support character like the monk.
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| 01/20/07 13:01 |
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The dervish 55 thing works like this:
Dervish chest piece has a +25hp mod on it already
So technically you can go 130hp(using scythe) dervish or 80hp(using a wand and -50 cesta) dervish
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