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I'm bored at work, so here I am.
What does everyone consider to be the best and the worst super hero/comic book/graphic novel movies ever made?
For me, the best would be Batman Begins and the worst is The Hulk.
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| 11/24/06 13:06 |
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Batman Begins was great but so are the X and Spider-man movies. As for bad, Captain America feat Matt Salinger (i think that was his name...woah that was bad). Ranks right up there w/ the last Superman movie...like Superman IV or w/e it was.
V for Vendatte was good to watch and Road to Perdition. The Hulk wasnt the bad, was about the same as Elektra (thank god Ms. Garner was in it otherwise I wouldnt of been able to watch it and um..enjoy it...i love her).
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| 11/24/06 13:18 |
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It would all depend on what sort of things you like as to the best and worst movie.
For me, I couldnt stand Batman Begins, because I hate batman. I liked Hulk and the X and spiderman movies. Overall Spiderman 1 was the best as I like Green Goblin and it stayed close enough to the comics. Also the casting was good.
The X movies failed sightly in my opinion for casting. Kelsey Grammer as Beast and Vinnie Jones as Juggy? Terrible!
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| 11/24/06 13:30 |
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I thought Sin City was by far the best graphic novel/comic based movie.
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| 11/24/06 13:33 |
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Best: The Crow.
Worst: The Crow: City of Angels.
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| 11/24/06 14:11 |
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Sin City ruled.
I think Fantastic Four sucked, sorry. It didn't follow the comic book line, and Doctor Doom was a black character from my remembrances of the comics.
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| 11/24/06 14:12 |
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Doctor Doom was eastern european. Doesn't get much whiter than that. :)
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| 11/24/06 14:25 |
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lol Yeeeeah...Doomy definitely isn't black.
Hmmm...I think it's hard to name the best and worst in this genre simply because there are so many on both ends of the spectrum.
I agree that the Spider-man flicks are amazing, and they're something I always look forward to. However, I really got a thrill from "V for Vendetta" and "Sin City."
As for the worst, I think I'll go with the Nick Fury movie that starred David Hasselhoff.
... lololololololol
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| 11/24/06 14:38 |
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| QUOTE | As for the worst, I think I'll go with the Nick Fury movie that starred David Hasselhoff.
... lololololololol
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LOL...thanks god I missed that one.
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| 11/24/06 14:43 |
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The most complete list of super hero movies & television shows.
With links on finding some of these rare jems. I remember a lot of these from the 70's. Check it out HERE.
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| 11/24/06 14:47 |
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Oooooo...I just thought of an upcoming flick that I can't wait to see. They're making a live action version of \"Wanted.\" If this movie doesn't have an 'R' rating, then there won't be any reason to see it. If it does, then I might be waiting in line like it's Star Wars. The book was amazing.
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| 11/24/06 14:53 |
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Till this day I still watch watch Howard The Duck at least once a month. Greatest comic movie ever. Or if you want something more mainstream, I also have The 1989 Punisher movie on dvd that i think is still the best Marvel movie to date.
Worst I have ever seen was Barb Wire. Still haven't seen the whole thing, I always get ill and have to change the station.
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| 11/24/06 15:08 |
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Man I totally forgot about the TV movie Nick Fury. And come to think of it they did another one, it was Generation X I believe.
And if I remember right wasnt Fox responsible for both of those movies. Howard the Duck, for years I never knew that was a movie based on a comic book character. Best use of Lea Thompson ever (she was in Back to the Future and Red Dawn for some of you youngins).
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| 11/24/06 15:17 |
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The Generation X TV movie (which was supposed to be a pilot for a TV show) actually wasn't that bad.
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| 11/24/06 15:21 |
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I bought a bootleg copy of the Generation X movie on Ebay. Y'know...It wasn't nearly as good as I remembered.
By the by, the Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie was horrid.
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| 11/24/06 15:36 |
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loved the Gen X fox movie/pilot
love howard the duck
hated daredevil
elektra was decent, better than daredevil
the hulk wasnt that bad, but i didnt have high expectations for it. i thought it was all about the graphics of the hulk being big and bad so i was happy with the comp generated graphics.
loved beast and vinnie jones in X3! couldnt have been better casting IMO
The original spiderman was the best IMO. it was very close to the comics compared to the other movies.
the batman's with clooney and kilmer were really bad i think. they were so much more cartoony than the others.
what do you guys think of nick cage as ghost rider? i cant decide yet, but i'm going to say probably a bad choice.
and has anyone else heard that ben affleck is going to be tony stark?! my uncle told me at dinner yesterday and i almost vomited on the table. i was really looking forward to Iron Man, but not with bennifer. he ruined one hero already.
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| 11/24/06 16:08 |
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and has anyone else heard that ben affleck is going to be tony stark?! my uncle told me at dinner yesterday and i almost vomited on the table. i was really looking forward to Iron Man, but not with bennifer. he ruined one hero already.
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Actually its Robert Downey Jr.
Iron Man movie!
Maybe, I dont know about him. Just have to trust Mr Favreau and see what he can do. I also heard way back when that Tom Cruise was going to be Tony Stark but I guess that was just a big rumor.
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| 11/24/06 16:42 |
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| QUOTE | Sin City ruled.
I think Fantastic Four sucked, sorry. It didn't follow the comic book line, and Doctor Doom was a black character from my remembrances of the comics. |
Your right, that film did suck. Making doom a mutant like the 4, Path-et-ic!
Oh and the bad casting with the black guy, your thinking of Kingpin in Daredevil. He was a big black guy. I think they needed a black guy in at least one marvel film. The only black guys in the Marvel universe are Luke Cage, Black Panther and Blade.
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| 11/24/06 17:05 |
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Tom Cruise was actually negotiating with Marvel to be Tony Stark. The deal just fell through. Robert Downey should bring a decent level of credibility to Stark because he's also had substance abuse issues and had to deal with the media. Of course, I think the movie is already ruined because the main villain is Mandarin. Seriously...Who thinks Mandarin is a great enemy? They better have some great script writers for that one.
By the by, Marvel is working on Black Panther and Luke Cage screenplays. Release dates TBD.
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| 11/24/06 17:36 |
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| QUOTE | Tom Cruise was actually negotiating with Marvel to be Tony Stark. The deal just fell through. Robert Downey should bring a decent level of credibility to Stark because he's also had substance abuse issues and had to deal with the media. Of course, I think the movie is already ruined because the main villain is Mandarin. Seriously...Who thinks Mandarin is a great enemy? They better have some great script writers for that one.
By the by, Marvel is working on Black Panther and Luke Cage screenplays. Release dates TBD.
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Who else would they cast as his opposition? Whirlwind? Crimson Dynamo? Oh he can fight Fin Fang Foom. I think Iron Man is one of those characters that is great idea for a movie but lack of a true archvillain really hurts him. X-men have Magneto. Spider...tons to choose. Batman...same. Superman...same. But Iron Man, well I always picture him w/ Avengers and he is always fighting a villain of one of the other heroes. I guess they looked at his choices and thought well the Mandarin seems to be his "main" if you want to call him that.
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Yeah...I dig where you're coming from, Grif. However, I think that's the foundation for a solid argument that the Iron Man movie probably shouldn't be made. I think what really hurt the Hulk film is the fact that he didn't really have anyone to fight. I sort of disagree with the idea that Superman has a lot of decent villains. I mean...They keep going with the worst choice every time - Lex Luthor. I get that it makes for great reading to see a simple human defeating an omnipotent alien, but it doesn't really transfer well to the big screen. Take into account the fact that all of his other enemies are just ridiculous characters - the magic elf, the reverse version that talks like a 'tard, the destructive alien that continually returns and learns from his mistakes. What a pitiful rogues gallery.
Honestly, they should just introduce a new character or go with an Avengers baddy. Why not have him fight Ultron...He's better than Mandarin.
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| QUOTE | Yeah...I dig where you're coming from, Grif. However, I think that's the foundation for a solid argument that the Iron Man movie probably shouldn't be made. I think what really hurt the Hulk film is the fact that he didn't really have anyone to fight. I sort of disagree with the idea that Superman has a lot of decent villains. I mean...They keep going with the worst choice every time - Lex Luthor. I get that it makes for great reading to see a simple human defeating an omnipotent alien, but it doesn't really transfer well to the big screen. Take into account the fact that all of his other enemies are just ridiculous characters - the magic elf, the reverse version that talks like a 'tard, the destructive alien that continually returns and learns from his mistakes. What a pitiful rogues gallery.
Honestly, they should just introduce a new character or go with an Avengers baddy. Why not have him fight Ultron...He's better than Mandarin.
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I didnt mean Supe had great villains but he has many to choose from that people can consider a Supermans "Rogues". Bizarro, Parasite, Doomsday, Brainac, Mongul, and even Darkseid. I dont really call them destructive aliens that keep returning. How many times do we have to hear Magneto and his "mankind is the enemy we must kill". Or the plethora of Goblins and Symbiotes. And yeah Mr. Mxapasdkjahtjkasd or w/e is kinda well stupid.
Maybe Ultron, even better lets just have a Capt America movie...then next we can have the Avengers! Thus the introduction of Iron Man, then a solo IM movie. But hey thats just me. Joe Everyday Comic Guy.
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| 11/24/06 18:34 |
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| QUOTE | | I dont really call them destructive aliens that keep returning. |
Nah...I was specifically referring to Doomsday. His whole deal is that when he's beaten, he learns how to avoid that particular strategy.
I think they could do a great Captain America movie, but the enemy would have to be Red Skull. You'd have to find some way of keeping it out of the WWII era or the cosmic cube nonsense. Of course, the whole throwing a shield at people probably won't be as impressive on the big screen.
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Lots of great respones here and boy I snoozed and lost was thinking of putting Howard the Duck up for worst but then someone else got the big guns out first then I rememeber what a horrible job they did with Swamp Thing.
Man and you bet I gave full credit for bringing the Hasselhoff version of Nick Fury Agent of Shield up!
On the good side CBS did a TV movie of Doctor Strange that I remember just loving as a teen but contrary to popular opinion I loved the Last x-men movie even if it made me sad.
Now my mind ponders.... What would STERANKO say?
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| QUOTE | Tom Cruise was actually negotiating with Marvel to be Tony Stark. The deal just fell through. Robert Downey should bring a decent level of credibility to Stark because he's also had substance abuse issues and had to deal with the media. Of course, I think the movie is already ruined because the main villain is Mandarin. Seriously...Who thinks Mandarin is a great enemy? They better have some great script writers for that one.
By the by, Marvel is working on Black Panther and Luke Cage screenplays. Release dates TBD.
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Mandarin was an AWESOME villain! Read the story arcs in the X-Men during that "villain switchover thingy" that happened a while back. Mandarin made an appearance in it and was OUTSTANDING. He's got some nice evil potential.
You also have to remember, the Marvel Movies aren't Canon, so they can use the character and concept but change the background and whatnot to make it better.
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ron, conan meaning gospel for marvel? at least thats what i thought it meant.
and FYI for those not as familiar with Iron Man's background: Mandarin
i knew who he was but had no idea at his background. looks pretty cool to me.
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| 11/24/06 22:12 |
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| QUOTE | ron, conan meaning gospel for marvel? at least thats what i thought it meant.
and FYI for those not as familiar with Iron Man's background: Mandarin
i knew who he was but had no idea at his background. looks pretty cool to me. |
Oh yeah. Mandarin is by far one of my favorite villains.
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My personal fav Comic book movie is Hellboy. Nothing like watching a demon who is pretty much the epitomy of Invulnerabilty see something coming at him and only say "Oh crap." ^_^
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| 11/25/06 02:22 |
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best to name a few, (repeats mostly but i dont care)
Blade, X - men, Spiderman. i love dare devil too. ooh hell boy. i could go on like this for ages.
worst hulk i would have to say, rented it, fell asleep half way through and i didnt bother to watch it again when i woke up. so to me thats a bad movie.
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| 11/25/06 02:24 |
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Are you guys freaking kidding me? Tony Stark makes a suit of armor that can propel him into the air and fire concussive blasts from the hands, and the best villain they come up with is someone that resides in the freaking Valley of Spirits? Anybody else seeing a ridiculously extreme contrast between the two. Again, it will play out as well as Luthor and Superman always does on the silver screen...It just won't.
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