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You wake up X-Mas morning and Find THIS
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| 12/01/06 10:54 |
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camy009
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| 12/01/06 10:55 |
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Brynden
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That's quite the powerful computer. I liked this the best:
| QUOTE | | RAM: 4 GB (installed) / 32 GB (max) - DDR II SDRAM - ECC - 667 MHz - PC2-5300 |
Yeah, I got 32 gigs of RAM in this baby.
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| 12/01/06 10:57 |
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Anyone know how much that is in canadain $
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| 12/01/06 11:00 |
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| QUOTE | That's quite the powerful computer. I liked this the best:
| QUOTE | | RAM: 4 GB (installed) / 32 GB (max) - DDR II SDRAM - ECC - 667 MHz - PC2-5300 |
Yeah, I got 32 gigs of RAM in this baby. |
Too bad windows XP cant recognize(or use) more than 4GB's of ram. Now, Vista.....that can recognize the 32GB, oddly enough, macs have been able to use 64GB of ram for years.
Anyway, not a bad computer....i bet I could get the parts and build it myself for at least a few hundred less.(i would also prefer to find the parts than just the computer cause I like building my own)
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| 12/01/06 11:04 |
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| QUOTE | | Anyone know how much that is in canadain $ |
2,319.99 GBP= 5,251.69 CAD
Thats alot of dough!
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| 12/01/06 11:36 |
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Tbh; that rig is way overpriced. The only differences i have with that one is that i use 64bit processor and have 2g RANM currently installed. but still, if a add a new processor and 2 gigs extra, i still will have saved 1000 pounds on my comp.
The GC that comes with that is pretty... useless imho. At least for heavy gaming (RTS games will prob run on like fps)
Looks nice, but im still for the 'build your own computer'. Saves a heck of a lot of money, and you have the stuff in it you really need/want.
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| 12/01/06 11:45 |
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allright, well thats 3,448.33 Euro's and i can't help but say that its not worth the price tag in my eyes, well i mean the specs are pretty nice though i kinda dislike "standard cases".
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| QUOTE | | Looks nice, but im still for the 'build your own computer'. Saves a heck of a lot of money, and you have the stuff in it you really need/want. |
I'm with ya on that 1 mate.
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| 12/01/06 11:47 |
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Gotta agree, the Graphics card is designed for graphic editing...not gaming. If that's what you intend to use it for, go for it, otherwise, I'd try to find another build, or replace the GPU.
I intend to build ALL my future rigs. My 2yr old Dell is giving me some strange issues lately, ones a reboot fixes for a while.
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| 12/01/06 17:40 |
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I'd rarther wake up on christmas and find THIS next to my bed
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| 12/01/06 17:54 |
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| QUOTE | | I'd rarther wake up on christmas and find THIS next to my bed |
I wouldn't....but it would still be nice
And on the subject of PC's, self build >>>> all.
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| 12/01/06 18:10 |
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/drool
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| 12/01/06 18:58 |
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have u guys never heard of alien ware??
go to their website.. they have the fastest PC in the world for sale.. literally called "the fastest pc in the world" :)
tis £5,000 but thats will all the extras like physics processing unit, and duel 1 gig graphics cards.. :)
a nice 30 inch monitor dnt go a miss either
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| 12/01/06 20:07 |
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| QUOTE | | I'd rarther wake up on christmas and find THIS next to my bed |
amen...
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| 12/01/06 20:34 |
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| QUOTE | | have u guys never heard of alien ware?? |
You mean Highly-overpriced-and-ripoff-ware?
I was bored so I took the time to add it all up, first, the:
Area-51® ALX(default setup, with razer mouse cause newegg didnt have the MS one) - $6,229.00
Now a pricelist from newegg, for all the hardware(except a case):
| QUOTE | $964.99 - processor
$249.99 - Mobo
$206.99 - Ram
$69.99 - HD
$29.99 - dvd burner
$629.99 - graphics card1
$629.99 - graphics card2
$399.99 - Power Supply
$859.99 - Monitor
$121.99 - Sound Card
$58.99 - Keyboard
$58.99 - mouse
$174.99 - Liquid Cooling
$249.99 - Windows XP Pro(SP2) |
Total price for the parts: $4716.86
For a decent case....maybe a max of $200.
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Shipping, from newegg: $64.29 (based off the price it took to ship just as many parts, of the same type, a few months ago)
So basically, they are charging you: $1247.85
Just to put it all together and have the OS installed.
Wish I could get paid > $1,000 just to put together a comp. and install windows.
PS: Yes I know this thread isnt about building comps, I just want to show you how Alienware rips everyone off.
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| 12/01/06 22:33 |
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| QUOTE | | show you how Alienware rips everyone off. |
Look at what they do this way and you get ripped off every day in the exact same way.
When you buy a new chair say the cost was $200 the retail store payed one third of that price and the wholesale company paid one third the price they sold it to the retail store which puts the cost of the chair was really only $23. I build a lot of my own furniture (mainly cause I like woodworking) but just I can do this and save me a lot of money doesn't mean everyone can.
Alienware is one of the best manufactured computers on the market. they are way more reliable and their tech support is way better than say some of the other more well known like Dell and so on.
But they save you the time of getting all the parts and putting it all together and making sure it all runs with no conflicts well together and we all know there is no real money value on time cause its something you can never get more of but instead only loose.
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| 12/02/06 13:31 |
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No no no, here's the one to drool over for xmas:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/18/wel...k_pc/page2.html
build by:
http://www.falcon-nw.com/
But, if you don't burn dollar bills to keep your fireplace nice and toasty, here are some thing to realize:
Falcon: Top of the line computers way not worth it. Budget computers pretty high end and not tooooo badly overpriced.
Play.com PC (from OP): Very expensive and not all that advanced. If it were build half a year ago, that price might be closer to accurate, but still overpriced. Maybe everything is more expensive in Europe because of demand or importing restrictions, but I doubt that much more expensive.
Alienware/Voodoo: If you like Alienware of VooDoo PC, you probably like Monster Cables too. Both excelent products, but both very much overpriced. You pay for the marketing for sure.
Dell XPS: Excellent computers. Overpriced, but the only overpriced ones I'd consider. The XPS line is a world apart from their standard computers. If you want to go with a mainstream line, this is the one. I just don't recommend going with a mainstream company.
Build-It-Yourself: Physically putting a computer together is not difficult. You usually won't run into any hardware conflict issues, but if you do, and your not an expert, one little thing can take forever. But the part that's really bad about building it yourself is the research. If you haven't looked into the latest in computer hardware for a couple years, you have a lot of research ahead of you. It doesn't help that there are multiple number systems to describe a single component. I'm actually at the tail end of the research process right now for a computer I'll be buying/building shortly.
Cyperpower PC: I've used these guys in the past, and have been very impressed. If you are thinking Alienware, don't. Unless you want to pay an additional $1000 - $1500 for the same computer with the Alien head case (which you likely love or hate). The computer I bought from Cyberpower used the exact same components as Alienware. Cyberpowers warranty, service, and performance were the same. Alienware had more mod options, but Cyberpower wasn't too far behind. Mod options are tacky and an embarrassment anyways. Cyberpowers build time was faster than Alienwares. Some computers may be different, but the last one I bought was like that. It usually only costs about $100-150 more for them to build it that for you to do it yourself, and it comes waranteed. That's a very low building markup.
But my point of view on computers is to go for mid-high end computer for $1000 - $1500. Top end computers usually cost twice that much, and here's how they compare:
Comparisons: mid-high end comp / top end comp
Cost: $1000 - $1500 / $2000 - $4000 (or more)
Play todays games: at 80% - 100% max settings / at 100% max settings
Play next years games: at 60% - 100% max settings / at 80% - 100% max settings
If you consider that you can buy new mid-high end computers twice as often as top end computers, you will have more time that you can run things at top speeds with a mid-high end computer. But hey, someone has to buy those top end parts to pay for the R&D to make mid-high end parts more affordable to me, so thanks to everyone who does buy those :)
Nintendo Wii: If all you use a computer for is games, your paying an awful lot for that gaming box. Counsels are much more affordable (aside from PS3). Of course you can't play GW on a counsel. But of counsels, even if they were all the same price, Wii is the one I'd want under my tree too. The PS2 had too many problems with it's optical reader going bad (as have a large number of Sony products in the past 4 years). X-Box 360 had too many problems with overheating. While the Nintendoes graphics are not close to touching the new XBox or PS, they are still good. And game play is so much more important than graphics these days anyways.
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| 12/04/06 11:00 |
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Guys, I can have a computer ten times as good as that one built myself for under $2000, and that includes pimping such as cathodes, liquid cooling system, and much much more. PM me to see computers I have built in the past. I can have state of the art computers equivalent to the $6000 alienwares delivered to your door for less than $2000.
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| 12/04/06 11:05 |
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That sounds like a bit of exageration Phychosis. I agree with what your getting at by having a killer computer for under $2000, but I'd really be curious to see a list of components you'd put together for $2000 that would equal a $6000 Alienware.
I'm not fan of Alienware, but for $6000 from Alienware, your getting some pretty expensive pieces. I think $6000 Alienware would be faster than a $2000 computer you or I could build. But that extra $4000 would only get you a like a 10-20% increase in speed that a gamer or non-professional would be able to take advantage of for a year or two anyways.
But if your dead serious about your claim, by all means, list out the components you would use and what you'd charge (up to 2k), and I'll take the challenge to build an Alienware for up to 6k that tries to be statistically better.
I guess your could be doing overclocking tricks. But overclocking can reduce lifespan, and you can overclock those Alienware comps too. I think they even offer overclocking services on their machines.
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| 12/04/06 11:18 |
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| QUOTE | That sounds like a bit of exageration Phychosis. I agree with what your getting at by having a killer computer for under $2000, but I'd really be curious to see a list of components you'd put together for $2000 that would equal a $6000 Alienware.
I'm not fan of Alienware, but for $6000 from Alienware, your getting some pretty expensive pieces. I think $6000 Alienware would be faster than a $2000 computer you or I could build. But that extra $4000 would only get you a like a 10-20% increase in speed that a gamer or non-professional would be able to take advantage of for a year or two anyways.
But if your dead serious about your claim, by all means, list out the components you would use and what you'd charge (up to 2k), and I'll take the challenge to build an Alienware for up to 6k that tries to be statistically better.
I guess your could be doing overclocking tricks. But overclocking can reduce lifespan, and you can overclock those Alienware comps too. I think they even offer overclocking services on their machines. |
Trust me, computers is my field. Ive been building computers for 4 years now for purposes from business, to gaming, and multimedia. Companies such as Dell and Alienware overcharge for their computers to almost extreme extents. Like I said, I will show you the computers I have built in the past. My current cumputer is a custom built machine using parts as complex as imported german liquid cooling systems to as simple as a nice and simple Nvidia SLI. the machine cost me $3000 and was at the time the equivalent of a $7500 computer on alienware. If anyone believe that I cannot do this I will prove otherwise. I am getting ready some pictures of my work along with stats. And yes I do overclock, but this procedure is completely safe due to the thermal exhaust systems I use
(a.k.a liquid cooling).
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| 12/04/06 11:33 |
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That sounds like pretty cool stuff. Almost makes me wish I knew more about computers. And I don't think he was saying he didn't believe that you couldn't build a better computer for half the price, I think he was saying you were exaggerating in saying you couldn't build a computer 10 times better for half the price. But that's pretty impressive anyway, liquid cooling sounds cool.
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| 12/04/06 11:37 |
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Psychosis Deathgod
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My computer;
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| 12/04/06 11:40 |
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Your liquid cooling system uses Radioactive Waste?!
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| 12/04/06 11:48 |
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I bet Psychosis's computer performes killer. Especially at a do-it-yourself $3000 machine. But I'm just not a fan of ricing... computers or cars (which I usually have nice non-riced ones of each).
Here is aesthetically the dream computer for me:
Added a pic of my car... don't they go well together :)
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| 12/04/06 12:06 |
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I'd have to agree with you there, moosey. All those neon lights and tubes just don't do it for me. I'd prefer just a black box. They definitely work for the wow-factor, but after that, I think they'd just get annoying.
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| 12/04/06 12:10 |
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| QUOTE | | I'd have to agree with you there, moosey. All those neon lights and tubes just don't do it for me. I'd prefer just a black box. They definitely work for the wow-factor, but after that, I think they'd just get annoying. |
/agreed.
I too build computers and though all the lights and stuff are cool to look at. My computer sits under my desk, so I would only see them if I actually got down and looked in it.
At most, I prefer cases with a side window, that way I can pride myself in how neat the cables are.
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| 12/04/06 12:17 |
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Yeah, I should get a side window so I can go "crap it's time for me to dust" instead of not knowing how bad it's gotten in there :)
But I'll still avoid it if I can
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| 12/04/06 12:19 |
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I partly agree on the case thing, i kinda dislike "standard" cases like the black 1 posted in an above post, though i dont really like exaggerated systems with cooling systems that give a computer the looks of some fully automatic water pump with some xmas lights either, lol
Aint got a digi cam atm so here's a pic from the manifacture website of my case:
http://aspireusa.net/product.php?pid=150
Not too simple and not too exaggerated, just right for me :)
And yeah my pc's a custom aswell, though i dont need latest, top of the line pc components, aslong as my system runs the next 2 years worth of games, after which its time for an upgrade, hardware-wise.
edit: i'm not much of a car fan, but that car sure looks hot, moosey. n1
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| 12/04/06 12:32 |
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Cyberpower has some nice pcs but one thing I have not noticed is financing for them. I've looked but none mentioned on their site and that is probably why some go with these other companies. Like I said Alienware is high but they are good computers. I've owned two Dells and wish I never spent the money on those and now use a gateway which has been a good comp with only one minor problem which I fixed with overheating. I've also had a compaq which was ok but a pain that everything is built on the motherboard and also had a HP and one home made one. My sister and brother-in-law are tech support for a local college and their biggest problem comps are home made followed by dell and compaq. But that is just looking at their stand point and just my opinion in how the ones I owned were. I can't pay straight out for a comp so I tend to lean towards ones I can get financing for easily without going to a bank and having to have other collateral in order to get the money to buy the computer.
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