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Well, last night after watching the Office on NBC I saw an ad about a hero being killed (or maybe I just misinterpreted). Assuming that my interpretation was correct, anyone have a guess at who it might be?
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My only guess would be Isaac (painter), because we know he dies from when Hiro travelled forward in time.
After all, Sylar was just caught by Eden (hypnotic suggestion) and since she and Clair's (regeneration) dad already have Isaac, Sylar will probably be brought to the same place.
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It looks to me like Sylar's power is the ability to take the power of those he kills. Does anyone have any other thoughts?
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i honestly have no idea who will be killed. i think it could be anyone. i just cant wait to see who
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| QUOTE | It looks to me like Sylar's power is the ability to take the power of those he kills. Does anyone have any other thoughts?
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I thought he was a telekenitic.
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no, the indian professor thought he had powers, but he doesnt, at least not outwardly. he killed the telekinetic guy and somehow gained his powers, and is now going on a killing spree and taking all of the powers that he can. the whole "save the cheerleader, save the world" thing is that if Sylar gets Claire's powers, he will be unstoppable.
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I think that Sylar is going to escape and kill Eden and the black telepath and then he's going to go looking for Peter and Issac to kill them. Claire's going to find out what her dad HRG is up to and then she'll run off to try and help/save Peter. Hiro and Ando will be given guard duty protecting Issac from Sylar while Peter looks for him.
There are three people that i'm thinking will be the new "Hero", Claire's friend, Ando, or Mohinder. Of course we'll have to wait until Jan. 15th to really see them in action.
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| QUOTE | It looks to me like Sylar's power is the ability to take the power of those he kills. Does anyone have any other thoughts?
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I actually took his power as being able to take people's powers, and the side effect of that is that he kills them. From the episode where we saw "the beginning of Sylar" he meet that Telekenetic and saw he was "broken". He was trying to "fix" that part like he did w/ the watches he fixed. I don't think he planned on killing the first time.
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| QUOTE | | no, the indian professor thought he had powers, but he doesnt, at least not outwardly. he killed the telekinetic guy and somehow gained his powers, and is now going on a killing spree and taking all of the powers that he can. the whole "save the cheerleader, save the world" thing is that if Sylar gets Claire's powers, he will be unstoppable. |
Ah okay I missed that. Gotcha. HAlf the time I'm half watching it while I play.
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I'm not sure that he wasn't trying to kill him when he met the teke. I mean the look on his face was one of rage and anguish not one of remorse or hopefulness that he could"fix" this person. Also when Mohinder's dad told him that he wasn't one of the chosen he was very upset when he left and let's not forget that Sylar is the one who killed Dr. Suresh.
Sylar has a God complex now and im not so sure that all of the combined powers of the heroes could stop him. HRG's cage wont hold him for long.
I also think that Peter's power somehow short circuits his power when they are in close contact, just a guess dont have any real evidence just my own thoughts.
Also how did he survive being shot???
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WHO DIES???? My guess is a hero from the future...we witness the funeral because...Peter meets Hiro and gets his power and travels to the future and sees a funeral...whose? His is my guess...
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| QUOTE | | It looks to me like Sylar's power is the ability to take the power of those he kills. Does anyone have any other thoughts? |
My theory on Sylar goes like this:
He can sense their brain patterns that make them different, and re-arrange his own to match them, thus gaining their powers. I think it helps him to see the brain (much like when he fixes a watch), and that is why he is lopping off the tops of their heads. SolaroNn, they showed on the last episode how six months ago Syalar didn't have any power, but then invited a telekinetic over and killed him, stealing his power.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | It looks to me like Sylar's power is the ability to take the power of those he kills. Does anyone have any other thoughts? |
My theory on Sylar goes like this:
He can sense their brain patterns that make them different, and re-arrange his own to match them, thus gaining their powers. I think it helps him to see the brain (much like when he fixes a watch), and that is why he is lopping off the tops of their heads. SolaroNn, they showed on the last episode how six months ago Syalar didn't have any power, but then invited a telekinetic over and killed him, stealing his power.
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I'm not so sure Sylar didn't have powers. Here's my take:
Going by Dr. Suresh's conversation with Sylar, my theory is that people's powers reside in their brains. Whenever Sylar has killed anyone so far it's been by splitting their head in half using his telekinetic powers (or in the case of the telekinetic himself, bashing his head in with those crystals). Something else to think about is that the cops also mentioned that the victims' brains were removed.
What I think is that, with the brains removed, he's able to absorb their powers from it somehow (their "power gene" perhaps?), and that method of absorbtion is his actual power. This would be why he didn't have any proof to show Dr. Suresh (and Suresh being the scientific man that he is, he wouldn't believe it without proof) and this is how he's able to gain people's power.
Think of it like Rogue from X-men, but more violent.
As for the telekinetic being "broken", I think Sylar was just referring to how he was afraid to use his powers and how he didn't want them. Judging by Sylar's wanting to be special/not insignificant speech, I'd say that he dubbed the telekinetic unworthy of his powers because he was unwilling to use them, and thus considered him "broken". He obviously considers himself more worthy because of his ambition and thus took it upon himself to steal them. The previous encounter with Dr. Suresh fueled his anger to the point that allowed him to kill the telekinetic guy, and their conversation about the soul residing in the brain gave him something to go on when trying to steal his powers.
Something else I've personally noticed...
That symbol on Nikki/Jessica's shoulder looks like half of the double-helix shape of DNA. Somewhere else it appears: in Dr. Suresh's laptop. The gap between the scrolling green letters makes the symbol. Also, having covered a bit of genetics in my bio course, the scrolling green letters look to me like the base-pairs found in DNA (for those of you who know what those are).
So if that double-dash symbol on the radioactive and mind-reading guys' necks is the branding from Claire's father's organization, where do you think the half-double-helix is from? Any thoughts?
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I almost picture Sylar with the powers sort of on the lines of Forge. Anyone remember Forge and his ability to look at anything mechanical, know how it works, make it better, or something to that effect. So when we see Sylar in the past he is doing some very tedious and a job not many people in the world can do, piecing together a very old pocket watch.
With that maybe he has a power but its not a physical one at 1st. Maybe he has the ability to see the intricacies of other things; machines, life, human brains?.....We see Sylar attack the man in his shop and then we get the idea that he is going to look into the mind of that person. Next all of us viewers then realize he showed telekinetic powers int he coffee shop. Through this learning he is able to change his own bodie's make up (alter) so that he has their abilities. Maybe he discovers the DNA or RNA (science wasnt my speciality) strand that makes people special, gives them powers. Then he alters himself on that aspect. I say the repetivite usage of that symbol throughout the show is the key.
As for a hero that dies, can the the radioactive man (Ted)be considered a hero? I can see him dying but really find it hard to see one of the main people dying. Maybe even DL.
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| QUOTE | I almost picture Sylar with the powers sort of on the lines of Forge. Anyone remember Forge and his ability to look at anything mechanical, know how it works, make it better, or something to that effect. So when we see Sylar in the past he is doing some very tedious and a job not many people in the world can do, piecing together a very old pocket watch.
With that maybe he has a power but its not a physical one at 1st. Maybe he has the ability to see the intricacies of other things; machines, life, human brains?.....We see Sylar attack the man in his shop and then we get the idea that he is going to look into the mind of that person. Next all of us viewers then realize he showed telekinetic powers int he coffee shop. Through this learning he is able to change his own bodie's make up (alter) so that he has their abilities. Maybe he discovers the DNA or RNA (science wasnt my speciality) strand that makes people special, gives them powers. Then he alters himself on that aspect. I say the repetivite usage of that symbol throughout the show is the key.
As for a hero that dies, can the the radioactive man (Ted)be considered a hero? I can see him dying but really find it hard to see one of the main people dying. Maybe even DL. |
I think that power sort of suits Mika more. If you remember, within 2 minutes of his grandfather giving him that laptop he had it disassembled and was working on it. Though he also made that pay-phone work without money just by touching the coin slot...so maybe he's like Forge 2.0?
As for Ted, he could be the one who dies come to think of it. Since all of Isaac's paintings have come to pass, and Hiro's shown you can't change the future from his experience with Charlie, the huge explosion everyone took to be a bomb could be from Ted dying. Maybe from getting shot, maybe from Sylar splitting his head open?
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With that maybe he has a power but its not a physical one at 1st. Maybe he has the ability to see the intricacies of other things; machines, life, human brains?.....We see Sylar attack the man in his shop and then we get the idea that he is going to look into the mind of that person. Next all of us viewers then realize he showed telekinetic powers int he coffee shop. Through this learning he is able to change his own bodie's make up (alter) so that he has their abilities. Maybe he discovers the DNA or RNA (science wasnt my speciality) strand that makes people special, gives them powers. Then he alters himself on that aspect. I say the repetivite usage of that symbol throughout the show is the key.
As for a hero that dies, can the the radioactive man (Ted)be considered a hero? I can see him dying but really find it hard to see one of the main people dying. Maybe even DL. |
I think that power sort of suits Mika more. If you remember, within 2 minutes of his grandfather giving him that laptop he had it disassembled and was working on it. Though he also made that pay-phone work without money just by touching the coin slot...so maybe he's like Forge 2.0?
As for Ted, he could be the one who dies come to think of it. Since all of Isaac's paintings have come to pass, and Hiro's shown you can't change the future from his experience with Charlie, the huge explosion everyone took to be a bomb could be from Ted dying. Maybe from getting shot, maybe from Sylar splitting his head open? |
Oh yeah, I know the kid has a power similar to that but Im not saying he has the abilities like Forge to make things from technology but something more on the lines being able to see how things work and such. So maybe he can see what anamoly makes people special and then he can take that speciality to give to himself.
But yeah, the kid definitely has the genius to him. Maybe Ted decides to sacrifice himself so that he doesnt make this reality come true of exploding NY. I cant see Isaac dying because Hiro saw it in the future. I think that possibility has been changed with Hiro warning Peter from the future.
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With that maybe he has a power but its not a physical one at 1st. Maybe he has the ability to see the intricacies of other things; machines, life, human brains?.....We see Sylar attack the man in his shop and then we get the idea that he is going to look into the mind of that person. Next all of us viewers then realize he showed telekinetic powers int he coffee shop. Through this learning he is able to change his own bodie's make up (alter) so that he has their abilities. Maybe he discovers the DNA or RNA (science wasnt my speciality) strand that makes people special, gives them powers. Then he alters himself on that aspect. I say the repetivite usage of that symbol throughout the show is the key.
As for a hero that dies, can the the radioactive man (Ted)be considered a hero? I can see him dying but really find it hard to see one of the main people dying. Maybe even DL. |
See what did I say? Sylar said it himself "he can see how things work"...uh uh uh....List to Grif, He sees the future.
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Ok so I was wrong on who died tonite but I could be right on Ted dying anyways since they show Peter going supernova. But hey least she took her own life so that Sylar couldnt take her powers. But maybe he used his ability to fix the damage and then take it anyways.
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Ya, though if my theory about his powers are right then it doesn't matter and he can take it anyway via brain-leech. Guess we'll just have to wait until January to see. T_T
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Anybody think that he opens up there heads so he can see how they work and how to use the powers of the deheaded persons, he even worked with the professor who was researching about them.
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I think Sylars power is in the fact that he can "see" what's broken (or different), remember him telling Dr. Suresh that his watch was losing 2 seconds after just holding it less than a minute... The best techs on the planet couldn't figure that out as fast, 2 seconds is a really short amount of time.
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Think about what it would be like for Peter when all the heroes finally come together, we're seeing a peek of it tonight with his mysterious sickness and collapse. Each hero has one power they get to dabble with a little here & there to figure it out, so here's Peter, he doesn't get to see what he can do till someones standing next to him... Lets imagine all the heroes coming together and basically overloading him. Tonight's episode we saw him in close proximity to Clair, Nathan, Parkman, and the Haitian was in the police station at the time and all of a sudden he's dropping over. Prior to this he's only ever been near one hero at a time.
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| QUOTE | | Well, last night after watching the Office on NBC I saw an ad about a hero being killed (or maybe I just misinterpreted). Assuming that my interpretation was correct, anyone have a guess at who it might be? |
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| QUOTE | | LOL... you can always tell when people are half-reading or skimming through posts in here... there's about 3 or 4 posts saying pretty much what I had to say since I said it! :) |
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you know if you think about it, in peters dream he was only close to about 6 Heroes right? and he overloaded and blew up "apparently". BUT before that when he was saving clair he was also close to Cyler, and Cyler has killed MANY and prob has like 10 powers...so why didn't he overload and blow up when he fought Cyler?
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i think the radiation guy is still going to be the one that blows up. Peter in his dream was simply overloading with power becuase all heroes were there.
"When your powers combine I am Captain Planet"
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i think it is basically a combination of powers inside peter that is turning him in to like an "ULTIMATE" mode.where he has everyone's power and is like SUPER PETER..he will need it because I think he will be the one to fight and stop Cyler.
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Im thinking Peter gets Teds powers (radiation/nuclear) and then doesnt learn how to control them. Thus causing him to go critical. Not that he is overloading from being exposed to all the other heroes.
He could very well turn out to be the bomb. Maybe somehow Ted dies but Peter can still access his powers. Im not sure just throwing around ideas.
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holy crap you guys,
i just watched the show on NBC.com from monday cause i missed it the first time and holy crap you guys.
that show was awesome. i really dont want to get into too much of it cause i could type a novel about it right now. most of the time i just watch the show and not try and figure stuff out until afterwards, but holy crap you guys.
and from nbc.com, it is coming back on the air Monday Jan 1 @ 9PM!!!!! screw BCS i want my heroes!
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| QUOTE | Im thinking Peter gets Teds powers (radiation/nuclear) and then doesnt learn how to control them. Thus causing him to go critical. Not that he is overloading from being exposed to all the other heroes.
He could very well turn out to be the bomb. Maybe somehow Ted dies but Peter can still access his powers. Im not sure just throwing around ideas. |
I had a similar theory.
I figure either Ted turns out to be the "bomb" and blows up when/if Sylar cuts him open, but that doesn't really go along with Peter's dream since Sylar wasn't in there.
I have two more reasonable theories:
Either Peter was Ted in his dream, and Ted ends up being the "bomb". If you've noticed, a few of the characters seem to be getting bad headaches from their powers, so maybe this is just an effect of the headache?;
or Peter absorbs Ted's powers and acts as the bomb since he doesn't know how to control them. Remember, though, that when sworded Hiro came back from the future he mentioned how Peter looked different without his scar. So at some point before this happens, Peter would have to get an apparenlty rather noticeable scar.
Also, someone (can't remember who) did make a valid point. Sylar was definately in range for Peter to copy his powers during their encounter, and I think Sylar has ~6. Not only that though, but I'm sure at one point in that episode both Claire and Sylar were in range at once, and Peter still didn't overload or anything.
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| 12/05/06 23:38 |
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