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Survivingsin
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OK I was doing a Sin gank with some guild and someone said we should use shock sin. Obviously he was laughed at and we continued but it got me thinking to remake the shock sin. This is what i came up with:
Glimmering mark
Shock
Falling Spider
Twisted Fangs
Black Lotus Strike
Death Blossum
Shadow Refuge/F Nuetrality
Res Sig
I've beaten about 6 assassin so far with this build and for 1 vs 1 u can change the last 2 skills depending on what you are taking on (unseen fury, Signet of Malice)
Anything I can change? cuz i think im going to make a guide if i can truly perfect it.
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| 12/16/06 11:34 |
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The Warrior Of Timi
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Guru has a build:
Shock sin
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| 12/16/06 11:39 |
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Survivingsin
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Ummm that build isn't like mine at all besides the shock, thats just a seeping wound sin. Im not LOOKING for a build I'm trying to make a good one.
Maybe i should explain my build....
Glimmering mark cuases 5 seconds of blindness ever time u hit with lightning dmg, so you take shock dagger tangs so they keep on getting blinded and shock its self will cause it. Becuase glimmering mark is a hex you can run the combo with black lotus strike. Also you can take conjure lightning to add 16 dmg per hit. I've testest this many times and besides builds like the shadow former and the half ranger, ive won.
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| 12/16/06 21:02 |
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Nihzu
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| QUOTE | | I've beaten about 6 assassin so far with this build |
Uh ok slightly off-topic...
Your build countered theirs. Like so many builds counter others.
I'd like to see how this one fairs against e.g. a Contagion/Dark Aura combo.
Also I really see no point in 1 vs 1, proves nothing special.
Sorry for being so negative, though any build has both pros and cons. Never make it sound otherwise.
Nihzu Fleshmonger - N/Me (Usually SS/echo)
Nihjin Uro - N/A (Gotta love the tag ;D)
Nihzu Goreweaver - N (Pre-Searing only)
Nihm Baalh - N/P (Spear throwing voodoo madman)
Cadavre Cannibale - N/W (Experimenting)
Hrafnulfr Tyr - R/W
Nihto Uro - A/N (Nihjin's lil bro)
Chikushou Kisama - Mo/E
Nihdel Baalh - D/Rt (That's the plan anyway...)
Yes I curse a lot...
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| 12/18/06 06:08 |
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Survivingsin
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Well whats the point to playing Guild wars? Same thing for 1 vs 1. Fun. Also to learn about how good you really r at your profession. Its not like what you think it is unless u make it that way.
Its not a spell caster build. its for Ab, 1 vs 1 and Ra.
It's true, I've beaten lots with this build and im asking if there are ways to make this not as limited to Weapon users.
Whats teh Conjagation/Dark Aura buid? if its a caster build than thats what im trying to make this work against.
BACK ON TOPIC
Does anyone have idea to ADD or REMOVE from my build to make it more flexible to killing anything?
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| 12/18/06 14:47 |
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Nihzu
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| QUOTE | | Well whats the point to playing Guild wars? Same thing for 1 vs 1. Fun. Also to learn about how good you really r at your profession. Its not like what you think it is unless u make it that way. |
What I meant is that, by essence, an assassin's purpose is to quickly take out single targets, hence 1 vs 1 proves very little as I see it. So I guess we disagree a lot on this point.
What I'm trying to avoid here is that someone who's not familiar with the class and/or GW might get the false idea that this or this build is the "Be All, End All". What you suggest is probably extremely effective, though the context is as much if not more important.
To me you seem amongst the most knowledgeable forum users when it comes to assassins, and from your experience, I'm sure you know by now that:
- There are still a whole lot (if not most) assassin players who are unaware of the class limitations... Ok I'll put it straight: "damage-horny lamers"
- This in turn contributes to the overall bad reputaton of assassins
Remember to educate the masses ;)
| QUOTE | | Whats teh Conjagation/Dark Aura buid? if its a caster build than thats what im trying to make this work against. |
Contagion is an enchantment linked to Death magic, available in the NF campaign.
"For 60 seconds, whenever you suffer from a new Condition, all nearby foes suffer from that same Condition and you sacrifice 10...6% maximum Health."
The sacrifice goes down to 5% with max Death and a few runes.
This also triggers Dark Aura:
"For 30 seconds, whenever target ally sacrifices Health, Dark Aura deals 5...41 shadow damage to adjacent foes, and you lose 5...17 Health."
Bottom line, with that combo, Bleeding, Deep Wound and Blindness get back at you with spike damage on top.
Maybe having Expunge Enchantments or Lift Enchantments could offset a bit, though your skill bar is already crowded.
Nihzu Fleshmonger - N/Me (Usually SS/echo)
Nihjin Uro - N/A (Gotta love the tag ;D)
Nihzu Goreweaver - N (Pre-Searing only)
Nihm Baalh - N/P (Spear throwing voodoo madman)
Cadavre Cannibale - N/W (Experimenting)
Hrafnulfr Tyr - R/W
Nihto Uro - A/N (Nihjin's lil bro)
Chikushou Kisama - Mo/E
Nihdel Baalh - D/Rt (That's the plan anyway...)
Yes I curse a lot...
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| 12/18/06 17:13 |
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Meese_Rancher
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No offense to you or to those others who made similar builds, but the shock sin build in general is nothing special. All your doing is adding a knockdown with elementary assassin skills.
And as for that Contagion/dark aura build, that is one of the most easily countered builds. A sin can easily kill someone without inflicting conditions and also theres many elite skills to render a dark aura necro useless like Dark Apostasy, Shattering Assault, and Assault Enchantments if you havent heard about them.
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| 12/18/06 17:31 |
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Nihzu
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| QUOTE | | And as for that Contagion/dark aura build, that is one of the most easily countered builds. A sin can easily kill someone without inflicting conditions and also theres many elite skills to render a dark aura necro useless like Dark Apostasy, Shattering Assault, and Assault Enchantments if you havent heard about them. |
And in its current state (again, in the given A/E context), that build fails.
Nihzu Fleshmonger - N/Me (Usually SS/echo)
Nihjin Uro - N/A (Gotta love the tag ;D)
Nihzu Goreweaver - N (Pre-Searing only)
Nihm Baalh - N/P (Spear throwing voodoo madman)
Cadavre Cannibale - N/W (Experimenting)
Hrafnulfr Tyr - R/W
Nihto Uro - A/N (Nihjin's lil bro)
Chikushou Kisama - Mo/E
Nihdel Baalh - D/Rt (That's the plan anyway...)
Yes I curse a lot...
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| 12/19/06 15:23 |
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Survivingsin
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Its a shock sin yes but Glimmering mark makes the blind every hit and with shocking dagger tang it makes them blind over and over again for 12 seconds. OK! now my queston is how can i mod this build so imnot blinding a spell caster! Currently my base dagger mastery is 8 but i have a sup rune and the head peice making it 12 and crit is 8. air is 11.
Thats what i was talking about.....I can kill melee and ranged EZ but spell casters will own me. I want to try to make a build that can take out BOTH melee and spell casters. basically a Ta Ra Ab build and maybe even Pve build becuase of the spreading of blind.
In a 1 vs 1, Rip tanks? Hexers? Stances with 75 evade? Ive run into rangers that ran IW with pet so i had -10 degen and took tons of dmg from IW. IT ended fast, for me.
Always have, always will. Get in Get out or have a plan to stay alive.
hehe btw ive killed 9 sins, 2 wars and a ranger with it now and possibly more in about 20 mins =D
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| 12/19/06 21:20 |
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The Imperialist
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coming from you, I know it will work. Didn't you and Art clear out the enemy's team base with Shadow Form while I warded? I advise everyone to listen to this, since this guy is a genius.
Off topic: Did you guys ever end up doing the Spirit-Bomber / Spirit Rift spike I came up with?
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| 12/19/06 21:31 |
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Survivingsin
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Hehe might wanna say what ur IGN is and we did try doing the shadow base clearing but we just started to try it and no vent = no communication so we separated too much so one died and thus so did the other. Ummmm the spirt rift spike had a huge problem lol, ppl like to move a lot, and those ppl couldn't spike if i said Id give em a million dollars.
Haha genius, not even close but thx lol
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| 12/19/06 21:38 |
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The Imperialist
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oh! i'm Noob Ownr, the warder and E-strg monk fom FoK.
I had guessed that the Spirit Rift might not work >_< oh wells, bye
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| 12/19/06 21:42 |
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