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Saito
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This is just to spark interest, and get an idea of how feasible this is.
Any TDM teams interested a making a 1 match per week, 2-3 month cup (after the olb 2v2 finishes) post here, let me know the following.
1.Are you honestly interested in this, and will you show up (not to bust balls I know people have real life issues but the fact is this community is rather small, and I need honest commitments for this since it's a long term thing).
2.Format, no 10 min maps, durr this is a long term deal so we have the time. But round robin into single, straight up double elim. What would be the most FUN for everybody.
3.Map format. Should we pick the maps per round, or let you pick them. This is critical. As some people hate some maps, and some object to playing the same stuff over and over.
4.Day of the week time. I'm going to request 9pm or 10pm est for the matches, due to issues with getting people here. But weekends, weekdays? What works best.
5. One nade mutator, will be used, add that stuff to your servers now
Any other comments go here, this wouldn't even start till after the 2v2 but lets make this the best it can be.
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| 01/15/05 06:13 |
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dawgpound
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I'm not sure about this because I haven't talked to my teammates, but we could probably do this.
Let teams choose maps out of a decent maplist.
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| 01/15/05 09:24 |
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Saito
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RGR that DP
Also on map list.
Antalus, Osiris, Asbestos, goliath, corrugation would all be for sure maps.
Goose 2k4, is another for sure, broken off because some hate it, but suck it the map is in.
The 4 iffy maps.
Rankin. Great map, sure, but more 2v2 or 1v1 IMHO, but could be added.
Campgrounds, lolz. Well some love it some hate it. Fact is the euro's play the hell out of it, and it has proven to do well. I love it (but they again I'm a quaker) so this is debatable.
Waisten. Heh, I played this in the TDF event. Solid foundation, needs work. IF you want it, we can do it but... I don't think it's ready yet.
Deck 17. Ugh, all I can say. But we can do that as well.
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| 01/15/05 09:31 |
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Goose is fine, rankin is 'ok' but I'd rather it not be 4v4, campgrounds is terrible, no to waisten, deck17 is 'ok' but if it's played you have to require the LG mutator for the god awful sniper rifles.
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| 01/15/05 09:38 |
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Saito
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yeah well LTG was a given, my bad on not stating that.
as for overtime and nades.
the 3 min over time rule?
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| 01/15/05 10:00 |
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Geniuz will definately be here to compete and improve this time.
Please do NOT have campgrounds in the map rotation. Let the silly ass euros play that garbage. Map rotation should be antalus, osiris, goliath, corrugation, asbestos, and goose. That is a solid 6 map rotation.
Please do not add the dreadful deck17. Deck was a great map in ut99, but it just doesnt play that well in this game and it's about the most dull map to play and/or
watch.
Also I think we need to get more coverage from shoutcasts to UTV to keep things more exciting.
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| 01/15/05 10:39 |
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Saito
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OK as for now camp is gone.
IF a team that will play supports it, I may consider it, but for now opinion is no more.
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| 01/15/05 10:43 |
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a.) euros dont play campgrounds (at least not at a high level)
b.) deck17 is a piece of shit lg or none (see: cpl, everyone hating it)
c.) rankin4v4 is equally as bad as campgrounds 4v4 (piece of shit)
Goose is ok.
edit: the interest is here i think, but you are going to need a major website overhaul or something to have STRONG league organization, standings, brackets, results, predictions, etc. Everything revolving around a messageboard simply wont work.
see: clanbase
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| 01/15/05 14:09 |
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CombatCarl
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Stop it with these bullshit customs :)
As in, Waisten?
And Deck17 has to be in, if you're going to justify Campgrounds being in because euros play it, well, Deck17 is in then. Deck17 is a need be because it's a real good TDM map if you know the flow and know how to play it.
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| 01/15/05 14:38 |
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First, ra check the clan base list, campgrounds is on it for their cash event. Though I agree with CC that to justify that map, then deck goes in.
As for needing a major overhaul, as in front page, brackets, seperate areas and a rack load of stuff. We are looking into that now, and should have more than enough time.
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| 01/15/05 20:19 |
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Could you possibly do 2 matches a week? Because with TDF everything felt really slow, and ZS was slow to update the next maps which he chose, so no one could really practice the maps beforehand anyways. Plus, if you let the teams choose the maps, you wouldn't need that much time imbetween matches for practice.
This way you do two things. Make the cup have more matches, or speed it up. Considering the committment level by most teams, I think being speedy might work out better (as long as it wasn't planned too fast).
If you go with admins picking the matches, I would say one match per week. If you let the teams choose, you might as well let them schedule their own matches with all the teams listed and have certain matches having a "due" date, like in CAL. For example, Obsoleet could rape everyone in the first week by scheduling all their matches one day after another, and just posting the demos and screens either prior to the due date or on the due date. To avoid anyone contesting the early schedule and claiming "it was just a scrim lolz, we wernt ready rofflecopters" you could have each team email the admin before the match, which would serve as confirmation.
Also, Campgrounds owns you.
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| 01/15/05 20:22 |
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Here's your +1 vote for Campgrounds. Campgrounds-105 > other versions.
Goose yes, Waisten yes, Rankin maybe, Deck no
1 night per week works great for us usually. Otherwise ladder matches start getting in the way and we have attendance problems.
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| 01/16/05 10:19 |
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I've thought a lot about something like this. My conclusions:
DO NOT let the teams pick the maps, it's ten times easier if every match every week plays the same maps - more fair that way.
For maps, Camp: yes, Deck: yes, Rankin: no, Waisten: ehh dunno...maybe an le version. (I'd also say no to antalus but that aint gonna happen, but seriously people, that map is not only ghey is WAY TOO OVERUSED).
Weeknights are best - most people have lives (if you don't I'm very very sorry for you) and the weekends are when they are the most active. I think Thursday night is the best, and 10 pm est as well.
Two map matches, team gets a point for winning a map. Add up the points a team has for rank. Set it up WELL in advance, so you can see who you're going to play what week etc for the ENTIRE 2-3 months BEFORE the thing starts. Make sure everyone plays everyone at some point.
At the end, playoffs - a single night of playoffs (will take a lot of organization) to determine the cup champion.
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| 01/16/05 13:07 |
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CombatCarl
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"Goose yes, Waisten yes, Rankin maybe, Deck no "
I don't want to sound like a dick, but there's a reason no one actually plays Seraphim and Waisten... Just don't use these garbage maps. There are 9 PLAYABLE maps. CPL used the 9 playable maps, we're not in a lack of maps and we don't need these shit ass garbage maps like Seraphim and Waisten.
PLEASE don't have these newbie pub maps christ
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| 01/16/05 14:27 |
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Double post
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| 01/16/05 14:27 |
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If it were a Thurs night gig, BG2 would play. Any other day of the week and we wouldn't be able to field a team.
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| 01/17/05 10:41 |
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| QUOTE | Here's your +1 vote for Campgrounds. Campgrounds-105 > other versions.
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I agree, ever since TMO put me onto this newer campgrounds version, I've felt the q3 nostalgia :P Its alot better IMO, but standard campgrounds is fine as well.
YES to Campgrounds
No to Rankin (too small k thx)
Maybe to Waisten (if its tweaked a bit, LE version as some ppl say as soma wanted it to be a 2v2/1v1 map anyway
Ify about Goose (dont like it for some reason)
and no deck if LG mutator isnt on :/
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| 01/27/05 20:45 |
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o_O double post
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