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B J W E R T
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Hey everyone. I've just recently realised, just about 1 hour ago in fact, that I have more than enough to buy a FoW helm for my warrior. :)
So, I'm hoping to buy one in the next few weeks but still have one major desicion to make; which type?!
I currently use a "Duelists Kurzick Helm" as I tend to use a sword 99% of the time. However, I'm thinking about steering away from a weapon attribute helm so that if I wish, I can change my weapon without having "wasted attributes" on my helm.
Therefore, I'm thinking of going with either a "Knight's" helm, for the -dmg and +1 str, or a "Gladiator's" helm, for the obvious +1 energy and +1 tactics.
This is where you come in! Should I get a "Knight's" or a "Gladiator's" helm? Or if you truly believe it is the best idea, a weapon attribute helm? Any advice will be much appreciated, thankyou.
P.S. The rest of my armour, (everything apart from the helm), is "Gladiator's". This may aid you in giving advice. :P
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| 01/10/07 14:32 |
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Soqed Hozi
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I use a knight's for the +1 strength and the dmg reduction (i play strength over tactics builds) and also a sentinals for my sentinals set lol, dont want a weak spot in my armour. I am planning on getting a 15k asalon helm too.
I advise the knight's helm, the glad's is weak imo, the +1 energy is pathetic, 1 energy is gonna mean nothing to you tbh, even with fullglads, the difference from 27 to 28 adrenaline is negligable.
so i'd say, knight's if you use strength (most warriors use a little at least) or ascalon if your a tactics person.
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| 01/10/07 14:48 |
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B J W E R T
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Thanks for your advice, +cred. I'm thinking towards the "Knight's" myself, but I'm just going to get a little more advice first before I buy. ^.^
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| 01/10/07 14:53 |
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knights is pointless really, i would buy a +1 weapon attribute, seeing as you use sword alot, unless you REALLY want knights you should go with sword, and if you want to ever get into pvp and your playing a sword build, vwalla you can use that helm
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| 01/10/07 15:13 |
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Soqed Hozi
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but he already has a +1 sword helm. He can then have that helm for when you say he needs it, then a knight's fow helm for other times.
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| 01/10/07 15:17 |
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or....seeing as he likes playing sword it seems, he could buy a fissure helm and then he could replace the other helm by salvaging it and then maybe even buying a new one as knights, seeing as he has more then enough to buy a fissure helm he could probably afford another helm for strength
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| 01/10/07 15:21 |
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You should get Knights fow helm becuase well,, i have knights fow helm and it really helps me a lot ^ ^
the glads fow helm is just a +1 energy and does nothing really...
the knight fow also has the reduce dmg-3
so thats really good.
so yea get knights ^ ^
remember its ur choice man ^ ^ hehe
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| 01/10/07 15:24 |
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| QUOTE | | or....seeing as he likes playing sword it seems, he could buy a fissure helm and then he could replace the other helm by salvaging it and then maybe even buying a new one as knights, seeing as he has more then enough to buy a fissure helm he could probably afford another helm for strength |
If he wants to go waste 300k on another Helm.....
Personally I prefer Tactics because a lot of the builds for Warriors involve Tactics plus I don't think Strength is that big of a deal. And Knights ONLY effects the Helmet not your overall armor. Just my opinion on it.
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| 01/10/07 15:32 |
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+1 sword hands down, knights is pretty much useless after nerf and like said in the post above, if you get into to pvp, you'll most likely need a helm +1 to weapon attribute (Axe, Sword, Hammer)
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| 01/10/07 15:32 |
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tactics ftw
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| 01/10/07 15:51 |
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IMO, get strenght, pretty good balanced since you'll always need strenght, and dont worry about PvP. This is why we must remember we can make PvP-only characters ;)
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| 01/10/07 16:02 |
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B J W E R T
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Hmm...it's starting to look like this decision will be harder to make than I originally thought. :S I'm now swaying slightly towards a "Gladiator's" helm due to finding that the -dmg given in "Knight's" is no longer global.
Just to reiterate for those who suggested a +1 swordsmanship helm; I already own one of these so it would be none other than a waste to get an exact replica, just with a different armour design.
P.S. Thank you for all of the advice so far and for any that may follow. :)
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| 01/10/07 16:02 |
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Buying a +1 Swords would be a waste of 300k. Why would you pay just for a replicate for what you have? I strongly suggest +1 tactics or Strength and like I said, most Warrior builds use Tactics so I'd suggest it.
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| 01/10/07 16:08 |
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Or don't buy it, it's ugly. Buy some nice weapons for you and your other characters instead
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| 01/10/07 16:21 |
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B J W E R T
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| QUOTE | | Or don't buy it, it's ugly. |
I disagree with that. ^.^ I happen to believe that the FoW helm is THE BEST looking helm available for warriors.
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| 01/10/07 16:26 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | Or don't buy it, it's ugly. |
I disagree with that. ^.^ I happen to believe that the FoW helm is THE BEST looking helm available for warriors. |
QFT, I agree ^_^
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| 01/10/07 16:27 |
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I disagree about it being the best looking helm, I think you are wearing the best looking helm. But be that as it may, you want an FoW helm and I'm here to help. Honestly, it comes down to the decision between knights and sentinals, gladiators helm for a warrior is almost completely pointless, 25 energy is plenty. For my warrior, I have a helm that gives +1 of every single attribute, each with a corresponding minor rune attached to it. I use full sentinals armor, so I need the 13 strength, so a strength helm is what I wear most often. And since I usually fight with a sword, I just have a minor swordsmanship rune somewhere else on my armor, even though I still have a separate swordsmanship helm. When I want to change weapons, I change helms. Personally, I think strength is much more useful than tactics, I have never really used tactics, and only just started putting a few points in to get the benefit from Lion's Comfort. But it really comes down to whichever you prefer.
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| 01/10/07 16:49 |
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Hmm...after going from "Knight's" to "Gladiator's"...I'm back at "Knight's" again! :D
The only real benefit I would gain from the "Gladiator's" helm would be the +1 energy as I very rarely use builds that use lots of tactics. However, +1 energy isn't really essential either, and if I really need more then I can always fill up on runes of Attunement. :)
So, I'm thinking of: "Knight's Obsidian helm of Superior Vigor", "Gladiator's Kurzick cuirass of Superior Absorption", "Gladiator's Kurzick gauntlets of Vitae", "Gladiator's Kurzick leggings of Minor Swordsmanship" and "Gladiator's Kurzick boots of Minor Swordsmanship".
This will give me 600hp, 25 energy, +1 strength and +2 swordsmanship. Then, if necessary, I can switch my Minor Swordsmanship runes for Axe/Hammer Mastery if I wish to change weapon and my Vitae for either Strength or Tactics if I'm using a build where that is needed. One real bummer is that the -dmg from "Knight's" is no longer global, (that would have been my choice hands-down if it still was), but I guess it's better than nothing.
So, any opinions on my plans? Do you think it will be effective?
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| 01/11/07 10:26 |
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Don't put the Sup Vigor rune in the helmet.
The most efficient way to distribute the runes is to put the corresponding runes in the helmet.
If you get a Strength Helm, put a strength rune in it.
Plus, you won't have to buy multiple Vigor runes just because you want a +1 in another attribute.
Here is my setup:
Helmets:
Strength +1 +3
Tactics +1 +3
Swordsmanship +1 +3
Hammer +1 +3
Axe +1 +3
Chests:
Sentinels Sup Vigor
Gladiators Sup Vigor
Pants:
Sentinels Sup Absorption
Gladiators Sup Absorption
Gloves:
Sentinels Minor Axe Mastery
Stonefist Minor Hammer Mastery
Gladiators Minor Swordsmanship
Boots:
Gladiators Minor Tactics
Sentinels Minor Strength
Sup Absorb runes are global, so it doesn't matter where you put it.
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| 01/11/07 10:48 |
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Ok, I'm getting towards my final decision now. :) Inspired by the above post, I'm now thinking of this:
Helm:
"Knight's Obsidian helm of Superior Swordsmanship"
Cuirass:
"Gladiator's Kurzick cuirass of Superior Vigor"
Gauntlets:
"Gladiator's Kurzick gauntlets of Superior Absorption"
Leggings:
"Gladiator's Kurzick leggings of Minor Swordsmanship"
Boots:
"Gladiator's Kurzick boots of Minor Strength/Tactics", (depending on build).
This will give me 565hp, (plenty! :D), 25 energy, +2 strength/+1strength, +1 tactics and +4 swordsmanship.
I'm thinking that this will be what I'll choose, but any further advice is still much appreciated. :)
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| 01/11/07 12:12 |
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The minor swordmanship rune and superior sword rune won't stack...
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| 01/11/07 12:30 |
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This is the setup i use on my PvE/PvP Warrior.
Helms:
Sword Helm of Sup Sword.
Axe Helm of Sup Axe.
Hammar Helm of Sup Hammer.
Sword Helm of Minor Sword.
Axe Helm of Minor Axe.
Hammar Helm of Minor Hammar.
(I use Collector's Helm to make it cheaper)
Chest:
Gladiators Chest of Superior Vigor
Gloves:
Gladiators Hands of Sup Absorption.
Stoneskin Hands of Clarity.
Pants:
Gladiators Pants of Minor Strength.
Boots:
Gladitators Boots of Minor Tactics.
I find these combonations work perfectly and it will serve you for all kinds of playing.
As for the fissure helm i'd suggest Tactics +1 helm.
Tactics is generally much stronger than Strength in both PvP and PvE. If you can get the other helms i posted its great. If u cant, then its between Sword +1 and Tactics +1.
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| 01/11/07 12:49 |
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due to cost duplication, i would advise
FoW plate helm with a minor strength rune
rest your choice, but put Sup vigor, sup abs and minor tactics on chest, legs and boots, and get multiple pairs of gloves for sup weapon rune of choice, so you can change weapons and keep the helm
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| 01/11/07 12:56 |
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since u be getting most hits on your chest,put absorption in it,not vigor
and FOW helm(or armor)isn't the best looking one IMO,but it's your money :)
and tactician is great,better than strenght based warrior,but that's my opinion again(i use 13-16 tactics most of the time,and usually 8-10 strenght)
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| 01/11/07 13:00 |
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| QUOTE | since u be getting most hits on your chest,put absorption in it,not vigor
errrr, abs is global, you can put it on your feet, it doesnt matter
and FOW helm(or armor)isn't the best looking one IMO,but it's your money :)
wellll, technically here i agree, i think FoW warrior in general is fuuuuuugly
and tactician is great,better than strenght based warrior,but that's my opinion again(i use 13-16 tactics most of the time,and usually 8-10 strenght)
I run 0 tactics in most builds, so again, user preference will make this difference, personally, +1 attribute in any slot isnt extremely helpful if you look at it, and certainly not in a warriors weapon
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| 01/11/07 13:06 |
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| QUOTE | | The minor swordmanship rune and superior sword rune won't stack... |
Oops! My mistake. :S Due to noticing this, *bows head in embarassment*, and that by placing my Superior Swordsmanship rune on my gauntlets, I will be able to use my FoW helm all the time, I've altered my decision yet again. :D
So, it's the same as my last choice but with these changes:
Helm with Minor Strength rather than Superior Swordsmanship.
Gauntlets with Superior Swordsmanship rather than Superior Absorption.
Boots with Minor Tactics rather than Minor Strength.
Leggings with Superior Absorption rather than Minor Swordsmanship
This should solve the rather embarassing error that I made earlier :P and also allow me to simply swap gauntlets with a superior weapon rune of my choice.
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| 01/11/07 13:53 |
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I think I have finally made my decision: I'm going to get a "Knight's" FoW helm. :)
I would like to thank everyone who has posted their advice and tips here, as otherwise I may have made a different decision which I would have regretted. :S
P.S. I intend to post back with a pic or two once I have crafted my helmet, and thanks once again to a great community! :)
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| 01/11/07 16:55 |
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on a warrior i would discourage use of supior runes other than vigour or absorbsion. I used to use some sups and after losing them for minors I find I live alot longer, so i infact end up dealing more damage.
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| 01/11/07 17:05 |
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Yes, I may not keep a Superior Rune of Swordsmanship as a permanent fixture. I will however, only 'lose' 35hp over my previous build which was without the use of a Superior weapon rune.
If I deal a significantly higher amount of damage than before, I will keep the rune. Otherwise it can be swapped for a different one. :)
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| 01/11/07 17:12 |
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i find this to be most effective unless im running a build that takes alot of energy or 13+str
+1 att hp helm with major or minor weapon rune in it
Dreadnaughts/knights Chest with sup absorb
Dreadnaughts/knights Chest with minor str
+hp gloves with minor tactics
+hp boots with sup vigor
the +armor ends up making up for a little over the amount of hp youll gain from +hp armor but with degen acounted for +hp is better so a good balance tends to be best the 2 most likely spots to get hit in have more defence and +hp on your other spots ends up maximizing your survivability
I often use a zelous weapon so energy isnt a big problem but if u have energy problems go with glads i guess but for the helm i like +hp.
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| 01/11/07 17:29 |
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