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Outcast_Of_tyria
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before you start saying that going higher than level 20 will unbalance the game how about this idea any character with any level higher than 20 will still have the same attributes health and energy but the higher levels will just be for show like titles except there is a bigger number next to your name
good idea/bad idea you tell me
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| 02/08/07 22:37 |
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The Old Pyro
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that be kool.... so like a Rank thing for PvE?? that be awsome
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| 02/08/07 22:38 |
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I think it would be neat to uncap the max level....but make your attributes and health/energy stop rising at level 20. That way you know the true level of your ranger with 4 million experience. Of course this would need to have some sort of max otherwise in some time, people might get to 4 digits. :P
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| 02/08/07 22:39 |
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The Old Pyro
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| QUOTE | | I think it would be neat to uncap the max level....but make your attributes and health/energy stop rising at level 20. That way you know the true level of your ranger with 4 million experience. Of course this would need to have some sort of max otherwise in some time, people might get to 4 digits. :P |
lol thats true....... but then i have a feeling getting into a PvE group would turn into HA now..... I can see it now
"GLF MORE! lvl 200 or higher!!!!"
lol thats no fun
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| 02/08/07 22:44 |
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Outcast_Of_tyria
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ha ha i think they would cap it somewhere around 50 - 60
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| 02/08/07 22:45 |
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Vicky the merchant
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It adds nothing to the game.
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| 02/08/07 22:47 |
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I like this idea... infact I like it alot, the only problem I see with it is the elitism that will follow it, such as "Looking for blah blah for mission lvl 250 and up" (although with everyone using heroes and hench I don't see it being too great an issue -_-)
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| 02/08/07 22:47 |
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mwpeck
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| QUOTE | lol thats true....... but then i have a feeling getting into a PvE group would turn into HA now..... I can see it now
"GLF MORE! lvl 200 or higher!!!!"
lol thats no fun |
Good point.......they already do that with lvl 20 as the cap.
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| 02/08/07 22:47 |
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Outcast_Of_tyria
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titles add nothing to the game either it would be just for the glory of the player
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| 02/08/07 22:47 |
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The Old Pyro
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still to get into a high quality farmin are where you need a group will be hard for people not 50 and above if they cap it like you say.... even though it doesn't make their character any better it just makes people think that they have to be better than everyone else.... just like in HA only peeps with rank 2 and up usually get into groups... you know what i mean?
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| 02/08/07 22:48 |
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Personally, I doubt this would really add any elitism to the game. I think most people would recognize that a level 20 could be just as good as a level 250, depending on how new the character is. You don't see people saying 'Looking for more for mission, must have Prot of Tyria and Cantha!' It would just be another pointless, but cool, PvE title, and I think people would recognize that, for the most part.
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| 02/09/07 00:15 |
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Soqed Hozi
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I had an idea similar to this before but cocerned with titels for xp earned, people said it wouldnt work cus of farming, and i guess the same is true here.
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| 02/09/07 01:46 |
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Great idea even tho i've suggested this over and over for the past few months and keep getting shot down and almost flamed for it lol... Max should be 50 and set it say somewhere around 10,500,000 XP.
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| 02/09/07 01:53 |
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If you only want this for a "Title Only" purpose, instead of raising the lvl number you next to a name, why not just make it a title like all the other ones where you can select it. then under your name it would display something like "Blah blah (4)" and level 4 would be xp from 2,000,000 to 3,000,000. then after 3 mil it would be another rank. This way people can turn it on/off like any other title. So those who want to display how much xp they have then can, and you wont get the people requesting a certain lvl or not, b/c not everyone will show that title.
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| 02/09/07 02:53 |
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| QUOTE | | It adds nothing to the game. |
/agree
if u will not get any more hp or att pts (wich idd wuld imba the game) then there is no point on doing this
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| 02/09/07 04:28 |
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swise slete
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Well i'm lucky this came up, becasue i think that being able to reach only lvl 20 is the best idea....why?? beacuse lvl 20 is easy to get and lvl 20 doesnt make u good in any way and if the lvls went hight like un runescape ther would be lots of people tessing and makign others feel bad about there lvl, but with lvl 20 everyone is the same the only differne is your skill on hwo to play the game and the lvls make eveyone the same. :)
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| 02/09/07 05:18 |
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I find that Gw dont really work around lvling. You can do thk being lvl 14 and it still wont matter cuz ull get through it. The only thing a higher cap will do is give a new goal to older player and new reason to trash on people for others. Leveling a cap to even 30 with having lvl 20 gears and attributes wont matter since people will be looking for lvl 30 and calling you noob for being 20.
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| 02/09/07 06:00 |
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I thought about that once or twice, but its true with the elitism, people will just demand a party with ridiculous high levels, and it will also result in almost everyone under level.. 100 or so? to be called a noob.
Bad idea, besides, i seen some signs of elitism anyways, never had a person ask how much total XP you had? :P
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| 02/09/07 06:39 |
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You'll have to remember, Guild Wars is not your standard MMORPG where you have to grind for levels. The game is not item based either which appeals to those players who are tired of standard MMO structure.
Once you hit level 20, thats it. In Guild Wars, level does not dictate how well of a player you are. It merely shows to others that you've gained the corresponding amount of experience/attributes for that character. What makes your character unique is how you play it rather than the number hovering over your head.
There really isn't a comparison between GW and WoW. They are two completely different games. Yes, I can understand wanting certain features of other games being incorporated into GW but judging from GW's long-standing formula for being the casual gamers outlet, I honestly don't see such features being added in the near future.
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| 02/09/07 06:41 |
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Karoqian
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Agreed with OnlyBlue.
People tend to forget about that, since some would like to see Guild Wars graphics mixed with WoW gameplay, i do like one thing of WoW that Guild Wars doesn't have, and considering its about Guild's thats a dissapointment.
CUSTOM RANKS, yes, WoW has it, a guild leader can make his own ranks and promote people into them, while Guild Wars still works with the (pathetic) Member/Officer system, they should atleast see if they can implement the ability for Leaders to make some custom ranks, so people can climb above normal members, but not yet to officer.
Maybe even a set of ''rules'' a leader can set for that particular rank.
For the rest i like Guild Wars as it is and i do not need a WoW clone, if i wanted WoW i would play it.
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| 02/09/07 06:52 |
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I dont see the piont of being able to reach lvl 20 + just for show off. If you really wanna show how much xp your character has, Anet should make it possible to control+click on your expierence bar in the hero menu and make your char say: "I have earned blablabla xp."
I agree with Karoqian on the custom ranks in a guild. Common WoW is owning our *sses here when it comes to a guild system and guild wars isn't called GUILD wars for nothing. Anet, plz make guild wars own WoW when it comes to a guild system.
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| 02/09/07 09:32 |
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Two things they should have: Titles for getting lots of exp eg 2million , 5 million 10 million
also title for having got every green drop in each kingdom
eg Tyrian Rare Weapon Collecter
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| 02/09/07 10:01 |
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Karoqian
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| QUOTE | | I agree with Karoqian on the custom ranks in a guild. Common WoW is owning our *sses here when it comes to a guild system and guild wars isn't called GUILD wars for nothing. Anet, plz make guild wars own WoW when it comes to a guild system. |
Yep, its true though, and when i heard about someone at school who plays WoW, it was just really bothering me how a game that doesn't focus on guilds can still have more options, then Guild Wars.
Sure i understand that we have guildhalls and they do not, but that doesn't make the guild any better really, i mean, we got all merchants (not for show off) but still the Guild Hall is barely used.
Its the guild structure we should get updated and advanced, since i don't mind the work on updating the roster every week in my guild with custom ranks, but if they would add that, it would first: get some work off me,
and second: make it easier to identify for new people.
And its more ''visually'' appealing for those that got that rank, since right now the only ''real'' proof of your rank is on our forum roster, not in game at all.
Probably one of the dev team reads this, and i hope they note this down, since the game is called Guild Wars, but when it comes to having a good structuring within each guild, it scores below average.
Just adding my 2 cent's, but im sure others, especially guild leaders and officers, will agree with this.
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| 02/09/07 10:28 |
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As The leader of the Red Lightning Brigade I hereby agree with you.
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Nah but seriously, My best friend is actually kinda like a second leader but I can't show people hes 2nd leader so custom ranks would own, so that I can show people they don't need to kiss my ass to become officer:P
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| 02/09/07 13:35 |
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Hehe, people people! Don't be so negative! :P
Think of it this way:
If it doesn't bring anything new to the game, it can't ruin anything old? You get new things to achieve! ^^
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| 02/09/07 14:23 |
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| QUOTE | | 20 will unbalance the game how about this idea any character with any level higher than 20 will still have the same attributes health and energy but the higher levels will just be for show like titles except there is a bigger number next to your name |
How would you explain why you increase in power up to level 20, but suddenly "keep leveling yet don't learn anything new" once you pass that?
It's also a bad idea for the simple fact of how DPS and critical hits are calculated. Critical hits are calculated based on two things: your weapon attribute and your level in relation to your opponents level.
Also caster weapons DPS (wands and staffs) are based on your level, not the requirement.
It would cause an imbalance with DPS and skill usage (critical chop = +32 damage and 100% interupt?)
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If it doesn't bring anything new to the game, it can't ruin anything old? You get new things to achieve! ^^
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It does take something old away... balence based on level. A level 250 pve char will be better than a level 20 PvP char because it can get a critical every hit. Even now when a dervish crits a squishy it hits 160+, make that 60/1.75x160=5485 DPM without using skills, add in avatar of balthazar and get upwards of 6k DPM.
Now, if this were to be implemented you would have to:
A: explain why you don't gain anything other than a level (no extra power) by "leveling"
B: Rework the entire damage system
C: Rebalence all of the skills that would now be effected.
It's just not a practical step.
If they do implement something like a "showoff my exp" title, it'll have to be by means of an actual "title", not a number next to your name.
The problems with the title showing exp (also applies to the "level" idea) are:
A: Farmable, you can just do the same thing over and over again.
B: It won't indicate skill because of reason A
C: How would you cap it? It's a PvE char based title (no other way to work it) so it must have a cap.
Neither option is really valid IMO.
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| 02/09/07 14:25 |
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Karoqian
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But you do say yes to custom guild ranks right? Right? *show's ecto's*
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| 02/09/07 14:27 |
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I think you should jsut get to 31 like shiro and your health should just go up after 20 till you reach 31.
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| 02/09/07 14:44 |
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It might be a more helpful indicator to list a character's "age". Although some might just camp out to get a character's age higher I think that overall listing of the character's age would more likely express that character types ability to be played well... just my thouhgts.
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| 02/09/07 14:46 |
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Karoqian
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| QUOTE | | It might be a more helpful indicator to list a character's "age". Although some might just camp out to get a character's age higher I think that overall listing of the character's age would more likely express that character types ability to be played well... just my thouhgts. |
Depends though, nice idea, i like it, but if you make a new character, like dervish, it will show only a few months, instead of a tyrian one that could be 14 months old, thus including elitism really :P
Maybe a total account age though, that also prevents people from begging you stuff and pretend to be new at the game.
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| 02/09/07 14:53 |
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