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Born Of Inferno
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Is there really anything in the fire/fire class not including epics.. That will toggle off deffence. Like say daz powers do some knock backs can... I want somehting that when I hit them it gakes there deffences down...
Anything?
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| 02/20/07 02:41 |
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Nakoma
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Having played a fire/fire to 50, I would say... nope. Sorry.
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| 02/20/07 07:10 |
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Warron Peace
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All attack sets have some attack that has a chance to detoggle in PvP, this I know for sure. As far as a Fire/Fire blaster goes, I'm not sure atm which ones can do it. Which is really sad, because I have also played a Fire/Fire to 50. My first 50, in fact. Damn I need to play Warron more....
I'll look it up later when I have more time and edit this post with the info I find.
my current project: Spine/Will farmer, Quillpower, on Virtue.
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| 02/20/07 08:16 |
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Nakoma
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I am fairly sure that the only power a fire/fire has is the same as everyone else... Brawl. If you find out more, let us know.
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| 02/20/07 12:04 |
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Born Of Inferno
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Brawl is a Pool power... Witch is cool. But Is there anything els. It would be better if I could find it out of melee range. I know the Epics have some. But I like the epic I have. Witch don't as far as I know... I have Snow Storm thats a -rez-recharge-travel. But I don't think it toggles off defenses.. I haven't had a chance to try it on a tool that will just sit there or even tell me the efects.. It don't say it on the power.
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| 02/21/07 14:23 |
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According to the help screen in the game, in blasters fire manipulation; Fire Sword and Fire Sword Circle have chance to turn off toggles.
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| 02/21/07 22:42 |
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kingbowenn
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Simply put no.
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| 02/25/07 22:22 |
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| QUOTE | | According to the help screen in the game, in blasters fire manipulation; Fire Sword and Fire Sword Circle have chance to turn off toggles. |
Bold Lightning is correct. Every Blaster secondary has Toggle dropping attacks available. Those are the ones that are in the Fire secondary. If I can find the percentages to drop, I'll add them to this post string. They are aroung the website somewhere in one of the patch note updates.
The nice thing about Fire is that the Fire Sword Circle could potentially drop toggles on more than one Enemy if the battle is heated and the opposing team is staying in tight.
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| 02/26/07 09:02 |
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Think they would have a chance against tanks?
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| 02/26/07 13:08 |
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Think they would have a chance against tanks?
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| 02/26/07 13:08 |
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| QUOTE | | Think they would have a chance against tanks? |
Well, considering the low DPS that Tanks generate and the fact that 30% of all damage cannot be resisted at all in PvP...... sure. You can just out DPS em. It might take a little while, but reguardless how good the Tank is at PvE, it's a whole different ball game in PvP.
Just don't be too focused on the Tank. It'll take some time to take them down, and someone could sneak up on you in the process and take you out. PvP teams use Tanks as bait all the time.
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| 02/26/07 13:17 |
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I don't spend alot of time in PvP areas only time I usually enter there is for the missions.Only time i PvP alot is against friends and that's in the arena.
Also,Higher level Fire/Fire Blasters(One with Epics) Would they have a better chance?
I once took down a Tank in Sirens with my Mastermind(Merc/Traps) Is that Natural or would i be like the first? :P
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| 02/26/07 13:34 |
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| QUOTE | | The nice thing about Fire is that the Fire Sword Circle could potentially drop toggles on more than one Enemy if the battle is heated and the opposing team is staying in tight. |
Aren't most battles heated when a Fire Blaster is involved?
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| 02/26/07 13:47 |
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Thundarpants
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | The nice thing about Fire is that the Fire Sword Circle could potentially drop toggles on more than one Enemy if the battle is heated and the opposing team is staying in tight. |
Aren't most battles heated when a Fire Blaster is involved? |
lol Hob.....
| QUOTE | | Also,Higher level Fire/Fire Blasters(One with Epics) Would they have a better chance? |
I'd have to say the Blaster Vs. Tanker in PvP is going to be pretty much the same in all the zones.
The higher the zone you are PvP'ing in, the more attacks you will have, and the more shields/defenses they will have. So there is some balance in progression there.
The only diference I would see is if one of the characters were Exemp'd down in the PvP zone they are in. The depth of slots would be higher for the high level character Exemp'd down, giving them an advantage. The Blaster would be generating more DPS, the Tank would have better resistances.
But if they were even level'd, they would still have the same progression. All of the Tanks I know really complain about PvP because they simply cannot generate sufficient DPS to take on anyone solo. If you see a Tank in a PvP zone looking for a fight, you should assume he is not there alone. Not that they can't PvP, it's just harder for them.
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| 02/26/07 14:15 |
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Ah ok,thanks bud!
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| 02/26/07 17:11 |
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Born Of Inferno
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Fighting tanks...
Well I Have alot of exp in this field..
I have a lvl 50 fire/fire Cold Mastery.
I have found that when it comes to PVP and PVE fire/fire can do very. Even agents Tankers and Scrapers.
You just have to under stand these fundamentals.
fire/fires have amazing DPS... this is your friend. But relize that all that is no use if your in melee range for them to take you out faster with harder hits.
fire/fire has almost nothing for holds. So the first thing you need is a good hold. Once you have one then you can Lay on the DPS from a distents were you are safe. I like Snow Storm. Its got a great Slow and -rez -recharg. There for you can not use a Break Free to get out of it. Pluse it slows down your atack rate as well as your movement with 100% acc.
Also understand that DPS comes faster when you can spam then when you have High Powered blasts but at slower rates. So for all damage powers other then Inferno I recomdend 3 Damage SO one acc one Rang or Recharge. This will keep you fireing at a constent rate with good acc. For those powers that respown fast like Fireball and Fire Blast. Through a End on there Because with you spaming them they will suck up some end.
So other then that. its HOLD DAMAGE OWNED with it comes to fire/fire's I love it!!
PS: whats the deal on the Toggles? Anything yet I could use?
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| 02/27/07 06:20 |
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