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Jtbishop
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First of all i'm not being, racial or anything of that sort. This isnt i dont want them to play Guild Wars.
I remember watching something either on G4 or on another channel about WoW in China. There are many many MANY people in the country of China. Some companies exploit labor out of the younger individuals to play WoW all day.... farming. At first i thought well it cant be too many. It said that there are many companies that do this in China and can have over 1000 farming at one time. I fear that this may happen to Guild Wars in the way that players might over farm. Of course there is the Code that is put in to keep this from happening, but, i dont think it will keep them from switching to a different place.
Also i think Euro could have someone to fight over favor with :O
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| 03/06/07 18:32 |
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All the sites that sell on line game currencies are registered someone in Asia. They don't play the game to play for fun, the do it for profit. Anet puts this warning up on our screen "You have been playing for "X" hours, please take a break". What they should really do is not allow them to play.
I'm sure someone will take offense to your post and to mine. But if they investigate the ownership of these sites they will see it is fact. I make no apologies for stating it either.
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| 03/06/07 18:41 |
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Jtbishop
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Yeah i dont want to mean to offend anyone thats why i put the first line in my post before saying anything
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| 03/06/07 18:44 |
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Keo
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I'm more worried that we'll all have to go to the Asian districts in order to get to FoW or UW!
There's nothing stopping gold sweat shops now, we know they are there. They just buy the game and use it as a US or Euro account...it's the regular market that will be able to play when the game is launched, not the gold farmers who already have it. Also there is no one twisting your arm to buy gold but some one is so there must be a market for it...do we stop the users or the dealers when both have broken the EULA?
I see your point and I agree with most of what you're saying but be careful how many people you tar with that brush.
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| 03/06/07 18:47 |
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I dont mind at all. Its not like they are out to get you, they do it to make a living. Guild Wars is all instanced so its not a problem. Its pretty funny this site advertises Gold and lvling sites yet they frown upon it? Cool with me cuz everyone has to make a living.
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| 03/06/07 18:49 |
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Yes, there are a few groups in Asia that exploit people for profit in games like WoW. There are also groups that do that in Asia-Pacific, and Eastern Europe as well as Africa and just about every other continent on the planet. And I'm sure that there are some groups in the States as well.
My point is, that you shouldn't exclude an entire country on the basis of stereotype or what one group does to ruin the reputation.
I think it's actually a great opportunity for us to get to play against a new group of people, and maybe even play alongside those people. There are many people in cities like Hong Kong that learn English, so it'll be nice for them to practice their English online (unfortunately with the 1337 sp43k thrown in), as well as an opportunity for us to learn a bit about their culture.
See this as an opportunity to open your mind. Not lose your wallet.
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| 03/06/07 18:50 |
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| QUOTE | | Its pretty funny this site advertises Gold and lvling sites yet they frown upon it? |
Google provides the adds.
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| 03/06/07 18:51 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | Its pretty funny this site advertises Gold and lvling sites yet they frown upon it? |
Google provides the adds. |
Yes, google is the one that gives out the adds, we have no control over what they are, if this was a site for say, golf, we would NEVER see them.
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| 03/06/07 18:57 |
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jak the fallen
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yea, the sweat shop thing might be a problem, but theres only 2 things im worries about, 1. i need to know if.....dang i just lost the word...well will the price of stuff go down alot more is it different in each thing like america and europe?? and 2. the favor of the gods.
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| 03/06/07 18:57 |
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Korea would probably be the country to worry about.. i think i've heard of about 3 people dying of over-gaming in gaming cafes in Korea.. some guy had an 80-ish hour marathon, and died at the keyboard lol.
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| 03/06/07 19:00 |
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Nothing wrong with china playing GW. They have far more restrictions than any other place I've heard of towards games. For one example they have a new law up to be passed (note its not been put into place yet but very likely) that they can not play more than three hours straight. Also any game that is PVP you have to be a certain age to even play it. So I'm fine with it.
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| 03/06/07 19:51 |
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Go Ma War is the only korean team ive seen recently taking halls so i wouldnt worry about them too much. As a sidenote when i visited korea in 98,99,00 my cousin's friends were skipping school to play warcraft(not wow yet) and other games because that's all the kids in korea have since there aren't many oppurtunity's for sports. In China idk how many ppl would do that but I don't think it's a significant number since the market hasnt been screwed up and everything is going fine so far. Plus if they got the farm shop things then they would be selling mostly in the chinese servers i bet instead of going over to europe.
quit gw for good. end of story.
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| 03/06/07 20:08 |
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| QUOTE | Korea would probably be the country to worry about.. i think i've heard of about 3 people dying of over-gaming in gaming cafes in Korea.. some guy had an 80-ish hour marathon, and died at the keyboard lol.
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First off, thats not funny to hear someone dying...ever.
Secondly, people play guildwars for money or for fun, Anet still makes profits from all this (i.e. gold farmers still have to buy the game). And, for the kids who dont gold farm they miss out on the opportunity to communicate with other players in guildwars because they can't speak/type english well enough without being racially commented on( yes this has happened to me with bad grammer, and ive seen it more then once). And (yes im still rambling) I'm pretty sure if your in your home district you get better internet connections.
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| 03/06/07 20:24 |
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wanderson75
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I think overall this gives us an opportunity to play with a new culture of gamers. I think we should welcome them, not shun them....for any reason.
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| 03/06/07 20:28 |
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w00t managed to control myself XD Yeah I'm Chinese/Japanese (more Chinese) but I agree that if people overfarm things then it ruins the game and it's no fun when the economy gets messed up like things cost too much or too little and prestige items are being sold like in Shing Jea =P
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| 03/06/07 20:32 |
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I hadn't heard this before I read the thread, but I think there's no harm in opening up the game elsewhere. Sure, there will be added abuses of the game, and it may harm some in-game events and prices, though overall it will average out anyway over time.
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| 03/06/07 20:40 |
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Hydras First
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So true to the above statement
We wonder, "Why?" when we lose friends, and there are never any good answers.
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| 03/06/07 20:59 |
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| QUOTE | | "You have been playing for "X" hours, please take a break". |
That message is so the parents of epileptic kids who play to long can't sue ANet.
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| 03/06/07 21:51 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | "You have been playing for "X" hours, please take a break". |
That message is so the parents of epileptic kids who play to long can't sue ANet. |
that is right, also it has to deal with that issue last year where the guy died from playing games for like an insane amount of hours straight...i am sure someone else remembers that story as well.
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| 03/06/07 22:05 |
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Yeah lets ban Gw in China, every Chinese player is exploited and forced to farm gold to sell to Americans.
While we're doing that, let's ban McDonald's in America because everyone there is obese.
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| 03/06/07 23:39 |
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| QUOTE | Yeah lets ban Gw in China, every Chinese player is exploited and forced to farm gold to sell to Americans.
While we're doing that, let's ban McDonald's in America because everyone there is obese. |
Banning McDonalds is a good idea......
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| 03/06/07 23:57 |
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I'm American and not obese =P
though I do agree that Chinese sweatshops could be a problem, I don't really see it as a big deal. Plus you've got to notice that China is really doing a good job at industrialising very fast, more jobs are on the way.
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| 03/06/07 23:59 |
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ugghhh don't bring up Super-Size Me....it's disgusting =P if I'm Chinese and American what happens? =D
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| 03/07/07 00:16 |
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| QUOTE | | ugghhh don't bring up Super-Size Me....it's disgusting =P if I'm Chinese and American what happens? =D |
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| 03/07/07 00:23 |
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| QUOTE | | ugghhh don't bring up Super-Size Me....it's disgusting =P if I'm Chinese and American what happens? =D |
It means you have duel Citizenship. One to China and one to America. If not then your really only one or the other. Most of my family is from Germany but I was born in American and only have citizenship here, so I'm American. But my ancestors are German.
lol Sorry couldn't help but move the direction some if you go by the past posts then it looks like your fat and work in a sweatshop.
Oh also I'm not fat and I eat at Mc. Ds and usually have it super sized lol. Atleast I don't concider 6'2" tall and 210 lbs fat.
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| 03/07/07 02:45 |
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lol i like how this post went from chinese farmers to McD and i have never seen super size me but when i worked there people asked me that all the time but i see it as if people make money off gold farming let them i mean i would love to have a job playing video games all day and the term sweat shop dosent apply to all of them in fact they try to make it comfortable for people to play and they also provide room and board and let you smoke while playing i say power to the farmers let people have a job that kicks ass like that if i could open a business here like that i would mainly because kids who love to play games can get a job doing something they love and get work experance and a decent earning for it
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| 03/07/07 03:12 |
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Saddens me to read that the first thing some people think about is the gamers cultural stereotype about the Chinese. Commercial farming is happening right now across the world (not just Asian continents), I don't think the amount of commercial farming will go up disproportionally just because its China rather than any other country.
Commercial farming is NOT about getting paid to play a game all day, its about the same repetitive task all day, think about spending 8-10hrs a day farming Trolls outside Drok's, using the same set of macros over and over, any love you have for a game will be quickly lost I'm sure. Payment is probably per 100k rather than an hourly rate, I doubt very, very much that it is either fun or well paid.
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| 03/07/07 03:50 |
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| QUOTE | | [...]if I'm Chinese and American what happens? =D |
It depends what you feel like....ie...
Today I feel French. I woke up late to the smell of fresh baking, had a lazy breakfast (almost sat outside but then remembered how cold it is in England) then argued with some people....But don't worry, I'm already being arrogant, I've had a huge cup of tea and I'll take a shower soon (but I won't brush my teeth) and after that I'll be feeling all British again!
Yay for social stereotypes!
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| 03/07/07 05:06 |
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| QUOTE | Saddens me to read that the first thing some people think about is the gamers cultural stereotype about the Chinese. Commercial farming is happening right now across the world (not just Asian continents), I don't think the amount of commercial farming will go up disproportionally just because its China rather than any other country.
Commercial farming is NOT about getting paid to play a game all day, its about the same repetitive task all day, think about spending 8-10hrs a day farming Trolls outside Drok's, using the same set of macros over and over, any love you have for a game will be quickly lost I'm sure. Payment is probably per 100k rather than an hourly rate, I doubt very, very much that it is either fun or well paid. |
I agree 100%. I'm honestly looking forward to it. There's been a lot of bad press about China and the limitations that they have put on their internet users, and I'm glad that ANet has been able to get a foothold in their market. I'm looking forward to seeing them fighting for favor alongside the rest of us!
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| 03/07/07 05:25 |
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| QUOTE | | ugghhh don't bring up Super-Size Me....it's disgusting =P if I'm Chinese and American what happens? =D |
Well, if we all believe stereotypes you'd be an obese bot farmer.... go figure.
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