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Mesmer Master

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PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

The following screenshot may offend some people. In fact I know many GW players hate it when monks in PvP do this kind of thing. So if your that kind of person turn away.

First things first, I am posting this because I'm trying out the monk profession for the first time in pvp. since i dont have many skills unlocked on this class Im stuck with the basics. So I took along the most famous PvE monk skills knowned: healing breeze and protective spirit. As I started using it, I noticed it was kind of effective at keeping me alive but not anybody else. then i came across a monk equipped with the same skills. But he executed this 2 enchantments far more effectively than i did. He didnt rez anybody and he surely he didnt heal anybody (not i that could notice). but he did teach me one thing about enchantments I will never forget. Always keep them running.

since he was too busy protecting himself the entire team was slowly killed by 2 dervishes, a monk, and a paragon. My new and weak build didnt help not the least bit. once the oppossing team was done with us, they unleashed everything they had on this monk. but they could not kill him. he was using only 2 skills and two skills only. Healing Breeze and Protective Spirit. Those were the only two skills he used and his health never dropped critical. He held them off for 20 minutes until he finally gave in. I was amazed a PvE build like this being brought into PvP and lasting this as long as it did. watching the screen he always keep the enchantments running without fail. one right after the other. i tried duplicating what he did in another match. but i ran out of energy or i had to wait for it to recharge. I could not do what he did. this guy obvious has ssome finesse. also notice the equipment hes using is not PvP. Hes swinging a battle axe from amnoon! (well it looks like the one from amnoon). as for the rest of his equipment im pretty sure he has sup runes on all his armour (probably a 55 sytle)

03/07/07 01:05

Stydracos

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RE: PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

My guess would be the axe had a +20% enchantment axe.

No doubt the totem axe sounds like a possible candidate.

I'm not surprised he can do it, the game mechanics remain the same its just the skills and tactics (ai) that changes :).

If these flesh bot ai creatures of the opposing team has a remove enchantment skill on them or could daze him then they wouldn't have had to wait 20 mins to finish the match.

*edit - typos*

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03/07/07 01:45

Serenity

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RE: PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

It's not an entirely new concept actaully, and yes he was a 55 build for certain. The first clue being that they weren't healing the team, the second was that they had the energy to keep it up for 20 minutes. Back in the day of GW's youth, way before factions was even known about. There was this annouying little build called the "invincamonk" same concept but back then Protective Bond was used instead of PS. Anyhow they used to go into the RA's alot and aggrevate many groups. So looks like this one here is just picking up an old habit :)

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03/07/07 04:09

The Sister

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RE: PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

What really gets me angry in PvP is when I come accross players like this, they are there purely to waste everyone else's time. If you win in RA because the other team got bored of waiting, you haven't proved any kind of skill, other than you have more patience. You won't kill anything like that, and the only thing keeping you alive is the fact that the opposition has no enchantment removal. If they did it'd be game over very shortly.

What people need to remember about PvP is that it isn't a solo effort, PvP is a Team Game. You need to be able to work together with your team to get down the opposition. Of course it's often worth bringing some self healing in RA, as you can't guarantee a monk on your side, but taking it to the extreme where you can't be killed, but also can't kill back is taking a side step from the actual point of the game. The victory condition is for your team to defeat all 4 opposing party members (except for the kill count map). You can't expect to be able to achieve this if everyone on your team is a solo player. The sin will go off and try and kill something, then get killed as he's overextended. The monk will stand there healing himself...etc etc. That really doesn't achieve anything.

The teams who get the glad points in RA are the ones who work well together, and communicate, targets, stay in range of each other etc.

I understand that you're new to monking in PvP, but I really had to get that off my chest. Good luck with working out new builds which can help both you and you team :)

03/07/07 04:33

Keo

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[...]What people need to remember about PvP is that it isn't a solo effort, PvP is a Team Game. You need to be able to work together with your team to get down the opposition. Of course it's often worth bringing some self healing in RA, as you can't guarantee a monk on your side, but taking it to the extreme where you can't be killed, but also can't kill back is taking a side step from the actual point of the game. The victory condition is for your team to defeat all 4 opposing party members (except for the kill count map). You can't expect to be able to achieve this if everyone on your team is a solo player. The sin will go off and try and kill something, then get killed as he's overextended. The monk will stand there healing himself...etc etc. That really doesn't achieve anything.

The teams who get the glad points in RA are the ones who work well together, and communicate, targets, stay in range of each other etc.[...]

I think you just summed up what GW is all about...it really is teamwork ftw!

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03/07/07 04:56

Carl Jenkins

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RE: PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

The only thing that was keeping was energy up was most likely a maintained enchantment like Balthazar's Spirit or Essence Bond. And I most certainly agree with you on that point Sister. 55 monks, I can usually beat if I'm on my warrior or mesmer, keep up the knockdowns or enchantment removal until they're dead. But those Elementalist with stoneflesh and armor of earth... Well, I'm trying hard here to restrain myself.

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03/07/07 16:39

sTo

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RE: PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

on a side note, go [香港]!! (i seek guild h k - the guild that just won in HOH in last screenshot) xD

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03/07/07 16:53

lord_gkar

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RE: PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

Mesmer Master dunno about the pvp aspect but seeing your used skills I would drop domination to 0 bring inspiration to 5 and rest in fast casting, would help with the leech signet and also the cast speed of your skills

as I said am not a pvp player but seeing 10 skill point used in a category that is not serving is somewhat weird

03/07/07 17:05

Mesmer Master

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RE: PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

Aha,

I was changing builds often, I didnt realize i forgot to change attributes during this switch! good catch. always a good idea to double check the attributes after your done switching builds.

haha
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03/11/07 06:45

The Leprechaun

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RE: PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

I can see you dont do TA/RA much :P.. just a tip.. mesmer doesnt need those healing skills, u should go for shutdown.

03/11/07 07:40

Fat_Smurf

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RE: PvE Build Takes On PvP Skillz

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Also notice the equipment hes using is not PvP. Hes swinging a battle axe from amnoon! (well it looks like the one from amnoon).

actually many people like to use pve character in pvp, for the look and if you have alot of money the weird pve item you can have ^^

oh hai.

03/11/07 08:33

The Sister

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Also notice the equipment hes using is not PvP. Hes swinging a battle axe from amnoon! (well it looks like the one from amnoon).

actually many people like to use pve character in pvp, for the look and if you have alot of money the weird pve item you can have ^^

Hehe yea, it's always nice to be able to use PvP characters in PvP, they just look so much nicer than the horrid pvp-armour. But yea it does cost a lot of money to get them all set up, skills capped etc. I try to use my sin, monk, war in PvP wherever I can ^^

03/11/07 08:41

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