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aramail

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Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

I've seen many W/A's and I wanna make Koss one to see, if anyone knows any skills that will work well for a build like this, say so please.

03/07/07 07:09

Keo

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

I used this on my first Koss for quite a while...it might look like a really very stupidly dumb thing to do but he actually holds agro quite well since he always gets in first!

Edit: Call yout target with Shift+Ctrl+Click and watch him go!

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03/07/07 08:18

The Nickromancer

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

this may be a soul pvp side of things, but signet of malice, shadow prison, dash, and feigned neutrality are all very popular

signet of malice is often used on steady stance warriors and YAA warriors

Shadow prison is mainly on adrenaline spikers

The other two are common generically

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03/07/07 09:48

Lunarman

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

I play W/A on my warrior. Just like the post above says, it's easier to hold agro, at least for the initial barrage, becuase you are in their range first. I use death charge and shadow refuge.

03/07/07 09:52

HiroAyami

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

A good attribute for W/A is the Deadly Arts. Here's the skills I use for my W/A (PVE):

Skills:

1. Sever Artery
2. Iron palm
3. Entangling Asp
4. Signet of Toxic Shock
5. Assassin's Promise [E]
6. Feigned Neutrality
7. Dash
8. Resurrection Signet

Attributes:

Strength: 9 (8 + Minor Rune)
Swordsmanship: 11 (9 + Minor Rune + Helm)
Deadly Arts: 10
Shadow Arts: 9

Description:
Combo Attack Skills 1,2,3,4, use Feigned Neutrality when necessary and make sure you use Assassins Promise before your terget dies to recharge your entire skill chain.

Dash is your speed boost, and aggro control, and the Res Sig is standard.

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03/07/07 10:52

aramail

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

Very nice replies, I don't have factions but I can get those skills with faction (assassin) for some reason koss can become a W/A although I don't have factions, or so it gives me the option to. I will try some of them, the axe one looks nice, if I could get him a decent axe tho, is there any skills I can put in there for swordsmanship instead of axe?

I think I might just get him a decent axe.

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03/07/07 11:37

Keo

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

Just go with the usual Sever, Gash, Galrath (or NF equivalent) & something else...maybe cripple or interrupt.

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[...]
1. Sever Artery
2. Iron palm
3. Entangling Asp
4. Signet of Toxic Shock
5. Assassin's Promise [E]
6. Feigned Neutrality
7. Dash
8. Resurrection Signet
[...]

I have a feeling that Koss will cast the hex (AP) first and then might fail to kill the target...does anyone know how hero's manage this skill?

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03/07/07 12:03

Survivingsin

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

hehe not well AT ALL, they have no time fame, they can't spike unless told to, all AP would do is either get rid of their hex or just leave u to control him the whole battle, As for something on Koss.

Has to be pretty low energy stuff so that he wont run out of energy. It really all depends on what you need him for:

Tanking:

Deaths Charge
Heart of Shadow
Shadow Refuge
Signet of Malice (with YAA)
Dash

Spiking:

Shadowy Burden
Siphon Speed
Shadow Prison
Dash

Balanced:

Signet of Malice
Disrupting Dagger
Shadow Refuge
Dash

hope it helps, just keep in mind only 20 ENERGY and 2 ENERGY REGEN and he SPAMS LIKE CRAZY even if it MAKES NO SENCE TO because he is HERO.

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03/07/07 21:30

HiroAyami

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

All this negativity about heroes. It seems a guide for managing heroes is going to be necessary ne? Well, whatever the cae, I'll get working on one.

To clear things up, considering managing Koss (he's one of the most necessary heroes to self manage) and his skills with the hero skill bar. Disable certain skills and trigger them when you deem necessary. A simple, though time consuming tactic, is to flag your group, target an enemy, and then get Koss to make his way over to them. With a W/A Koss, Death charge, unflag and make your way over to him.

As for managing his skill usage, just group certain skills together for easy accessability.

IE:

1. Adrenaline Attack
2. Adrenaline Attack
3. Energy Consuming Attack
4. Spell/Defensive Skill
5. Spell/Defensive Skill
6. Self Heal
7. Speed buff
8. Resurrection Signet

When you want him to focus on self healing and/or conserve energy, disable skills 3,4,5,and 7. With this he';ll focus on his skills like Healing Signet and/or Shadow Refuge.

There are other ways to manage heroes as well, thats just one of the techniques I use, especially when using Koss.

03/07/07 23:30

Survivingsin

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

Yeah we do need a how to use hero guide by someone with some exp with them like in HB. Theres a lot i dont get about them like sometimes ill tell them to retreat back to the res shrine and they just totally let the team go to waste instead of heal and run tactics. Sometimes they will constantly cancel and activate their resserection sigs but will never fully cast it (like when ppl use the cancel button repeatedly on heal sig). Also why is Zhed always the one to mess up everything for the whole team, im serious he does whateever the frig he wants. one time in HA (yes Ha we got bored and took him as an SF in a sinway group) we were falling back and he just didn't come and stayed to nuke some more. Also one time i set him to GUARD and he FOLLOWED A PERSON ALL THE WAY TO THEIR RES SHRINE FROM THE CENTER SHRINE! I HAD TO FOLLOW HIM SO HE WOULDN"T GET KILLED!!! in short, i dont totally get them besides the facts that they are leet interupters and spam like crazy on monks (well everything).

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03/08/07 05:42

aramail

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RE: Good assassin skills to combine with a warrior primary?

Personally, I can handle hero's well and have good experience in HB (which I do a lot) that is why I'm concerned with finding a good build for him. I'm not able to get many sin skills since I don't have factions, so I will try some other stuff to for the skills I can't get.

I think I mught just work around with the build Hiro has, sounds pretty well and open.

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03/08/07 06:58

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