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Im Juggernaut

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Serious talk about GW2!!!

I know for a fact after reading the interviews I dont seem satisfied already...from what I have read it seems ALL our progress is completely for nothing!
Personaly I like to keep what "you kill" so to speak. Armors that every one has worked desperatly to achieve looks like its being flushed down the toliet, IDK if they havent realized yet, but ALOT of the GW1 fortune does not come easy, ie FoW armor if you didnt cheat and buy the gold. Sure their transfering titles which also takes alot of time, and dedication to accomplish but so did our characters, I'm guestimating each main character has around 600+hrs if your an active player.
Also I hear its suppose to be in the futur, does this mean theres gonna be guns instead of swords? One of the reasons I continue to play GW1 is b/c the lack of futuristic stuff and I wouldnt have to worry about them coming and taking all my progress away from me, but it seems to be all wrong now.
Unless your able to transfer your characters over I dont see my self playing GW in general any more...but you never know so I will wait to see but it would be a kinda stupid thing to not let previous chars into GW2, it would be kewler to see an older gw character in GW2 than a bunch of new ones IMO!

PLZ reply, i would like to hear others voices on the topic, more or less your opinion but you can criticise my opinion as well.

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03/28/07 08:57

The Warrior Of Timi

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

You won't think that a characther lives 100 years?
Remember GW2 comes out in 2009-10 and the servers will be open ( i hope ) so you can still play at your older acounts

03/28/07 09:09

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

And you can play with your old characters after GW2 is opened. You dont need to go to GW2(what i do, just playing in GW1)

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03/28/07 09:11

Kanna

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

I understand your frustration, but I think it is a little too early to really make any type of judgement call. You will be able to play Guild Wars after the release of Guild Wars 2.

The setting takes place a few hundred years after Guild Wars, so it really wouldn't be "possible" to play your existing character in GW2, unless you use Rogues idea of a time portal. xD

Via the Hall of Monuments, there is no idea what you will unlock for your character in Guild Wars 2. Just give it some time.

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03/28/07 09:14

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

I would just like people to read what the devs and community relations managers have said up to the point. They haven't provided a TON of information in regards to GW2 as of yet. A lot of the stuff they're saying about things that are definitely going to be in the game are things that many players have asked for. I, personally, can understand completely why they won't be letting us take our GW1 stuff over to GW2. There are several reasons, first being that it would completely screw up the economy as soon as the game is released. I realize that people have worked VERY hard to build up all the stuff they have to this point. I am one of those people too. I also look at the release of GW2 as an opportunity to fix the mistakes of GW1 and come up with an even better game.

If they were to allow us to take all of our stuff over, they would be much more limited on the types of things that would be in GW2. For example.....a weapon as of right now can have 3 modifications put on it, a front mod (staff head), a back mod (staff wrapping), and an inscription. Maybe one of the things they're planning on doing in GW2 is allowing an infinite amount of mods to a weapon. Maybe not, it's just speculation at this point, but if you were to limit a weapon to those 3 mods because you allowed the weapons from GW1 to carry over, I think that it would basically just be a repackaged game and that would disappoint more than a few GW fans. That is just one example and I'm sure if you think about it, you could apply that to armor, runes, storage, etc.

One last thought.....I don't remember any other RPG game that I've played giving the ability to bring over the items and gold from the previous game. I've listed a few below, but I'm sure the list is much larger than this:

Diablo 1 ---> Diablo 2 (Nope)
Knights of the Old Republic ---> KotOR 2 (Nope)
Everquest ---> Everquest 2 (Nope, but I may be mistaken as I never played EQ)

Those were some very popular RPG's and I'm sure people complained then too, but the second game was usually much better than the first. I don't think Anet is going to completely abandon their philosophy and just make GW2 into the typical vanilla MMORPG. I think they love this game too much and I'm sure they know how much their avid players love it.

I'm looking forward to GW2 and will not make any final decisions, as many people in the forums have, on it until I get a chance to play in the betas. I'm sure they'll have the beta program be similar to the way it was when Prophecies was originally released. Basically, they had a "Beta Weekend" once a month for several months prior to release that if you had pre-ordered the game, you could participate in it. I participated in the Betas the first time around and I have to say that each one got better and better and has lead to the GW we have now. Anet does a great job of aquiring and using player feedback to improve their game. I can't really foresee them dropping the ball on GW2.

Sorry for the long winded post, but I also wanted to express my opinion on GW2. :D

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03/28/07 09:15

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

I do believe that the announcement on the guild wars site states that you can bring over attire from gw1 characters to gw2 via the hall of monuments.

But you have to realize that gw2 is a completely new game, and because of this it is reasonable to expect that characters from the old game cannot be linked. As past experience dictates, a shift to a sequel means exactly this, you have to start over. Judging by the time that gw2 takes place is also another reasonable aspect to not allow characters from 1 to cross over to 2 as it is set 100 years later.

03/28/07 09:23

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

I think it is important to realise that GW2 will be a differant game. It's like wanting to keep all of the stuff you got on morrowind and bring it to oblivion. sequels don't tend to work that way.

Also GW2 being completely seperate from GW1 would mean that campaigns can not just be for lvl 20s. For example prophecies had a gradual level up system, where later campaigns had to have the bulk of their story for lvl 20 characters so that your prophecies and other campaign characters can play most of it.

Don't get me wrong I don't like the idea of GW1 coming to a close as it has kind of been "my game" over the last 20 months and i have kind of "bonded" (probably sounds sad but i don't mean it like theyre my friends or anthing) with my characters as ive put so much hard work into everything.

But GW2 could be the chance that anet needs to restore the balence in the game (economy, unbalenced campaigns etc) and
it should generally be an improvment on the original. As good as GW1 was (and imo it is the best game that i have ever played) GW2 should be even better!

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03/28/07 09:27

burkie1005

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

I like the idea that Rouge said about a time portal..Maybe only characters that have protector off all the 4 GW campaignes [#4 GWEN] can get a time portal to GW 2 lol.

03/28/07 09:32

Macarian

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

grrrrrrr I'm really starting to get very annoyed by this,

First of all; GUNS?! dude it's only a hundred years further in time, jezus (serious talk -.-).

And second don't bloody (forgive my language) nag constantly that all your hard work will be lost because if you buy a new game you'll have to start all over again as well, does that change simply because it's called the same and the same company is gonna make it?

Third, damn dude it won't be out for a FEW YEARS and GW will still get one more expansion.

And last, IT'S ALL JUST A BUNCH OF RUMOURS WHO PEOPLE VAGUELY READ AND THEN PROCLAIM IT AS TRUTH.

Damn it's just crazy to see how much panic a bunch of rumours can cause, just calm down people, relax, play the game and only believe the info Anet herself is giving.

03/28/07 09:34

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

I dont really like the idea of this being a stand alone. Sure we can still play GW1, but why bother when most people will play GW2. Completing missions will be harder, quests, getting runs/running for money, selling your golds. It may not turn out like this but hey just my 2 cents.

03/28/07 09:43

Mathrax

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

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IT'S ALL JUST A BUNCH OF RUMOURS WHO PEOPLE VAGUELY READ AND THEN PROCLAIM IT AS TRUTH

Youre way in over youre head. If its just rumours then check out this site

www.guildwars.com (the gameamp url system doesnt apear to be working atm)

Articles that have been posted and confermed by anet themselves, it is not rumours, dont shout at others unless you know exactly what you're talking about

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03/28/07 09:45

burkie1005

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

This doesnt matter for alot of players, but players like my self, who are in school, most likely wont be playing GW2, it says the BETA will start in the middle of 2008, by then ill be Finishing GCSE Exams and then be entering into 6 Form [Year 12] and then by the time GW2 comes out ill be to busy with exams and !Life! I'm not disapointed, but GW:EN will be the last online Game i play. GW2 Looks like good game but i wont be playing.

03/28/07 09:50

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

I too can understand the feeling of loss of the OP, afterall we all seem to really enjoy the game otherwise every little change wouldnt cause so much havok with the community biting its nails over whats next (and taking it out on each other).

I'm happy they told us now, but having read the articles they dont get too specific so I dont read too much into it. In fact I dont worry about it yet as what comes, comes.

Spinning it to the positive, I know that in 2 years I get to play GW2. I know alot of my allies and guildies will want to do the same. So we can all start anew together.

We get that advantage of knowing each other and exploring together from the start something I didnt get to do with them in GW1.

Having invested a lot of play time on the game, its kind of sad to lose progress made. The hall of monuments sounds interesting though so we will wait and see.

So now I play happy, knowing there is an end and a new beginning after it - to be honest I cant wait for GW2, from the limited amount I've heard; even without the hall of monuments (a complete fresh start was my preference admittedly). After all I get to be a newbie again drooling over the next best *insert weapon here*.

So in the immortal words of douglas adams - "DONT PANIC".

Ramble over... what was I talking about again xD,

03/28/07 09:57

Macarian

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IT'S ALL JUST A BUNCH OF RUMOURS WHO PEOPLE VAGUELY READ AND THEN PROCLAIM IT AS TRUTH

dude if you read my post completely you would have seen that I did say to only listen to what Anet says

plus in the particular line you quoted I'm refering to all the rumours on fan sites

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03/28/07 10:16

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

this is akio again... now for those who didnt get the magasin with the azura and read bout EoTn and Gw2... EoTn needs 1 of the previous gw games to play it czu there has been earthquakes in elona,tyria, and cantha and it shows a underground dungeons etc. ITs based a story with the azura,charr,norn, and the undescribed 4th races syltenia or w/e they are called. It deals with the dwarfs story from proff and its continues and the ending has spoilers for GW2. also in EoTn you cant make a character from scratch and start. u need a lv 20 to do it but it will give u characcter slots.

For gw2 the world. Its gonna be 4 races or maybe 5 because of humans. Its gonna be a whole world be transformed meaning jade sea might me a real sea again... tyria post war and elona after nightfall. No fee and no need to upgrade becuz if 3 years old ocmp with year of date the game comes out wont need a massive upgrade. There wont be a WoW main story and quests. It will update every 3 months for a new story like a chain. Also stuff can effect a whole world... like a dragon is in a town u have an option to scare it away or let it be. If u chase it away then u get a reward for those who helped. If u did it knocksdown a bridge and then workers help reconstruct it and villans and robbers come to kill them u have to protect them. If u protect them then u get a reward. Also you can jump,slide, and swim. There will still be events and holidays. Mounts werent discused... they said load screens will not exist only for pvp change etc. They also said there wont be a lv cap maybe 100. There will be a sidekick type like city of heros with sum1 10 levels below u can be your sidekick. Pvp matches are capably 50vs50 and willl take pllace in the mists. Only capture the flag and king of the hill will be for now for those events.

They said they will use the same engine for gw2 like for 1 but defined. oh and when gw2 comes out Blizzard will come out with WoW 2.0 (spectualtion from a net and news they have recieved)

03/28/07 10:38

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oh also for pvp u cant have your own weapons, u can only do with there pregame selected weapons which every1 can use and pre selected skillls so that people can prove they are good in any format. ANd not spirit spammin or necro spikin cheapos euro people. And there wont be a us , euro server... its all gonna be only 1 server. so get rdy for 4 million japs and koreans to start spammin i sell gold i sell gold $5 dalla. lol

03/28/07 10:44

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

man...

all this talk about people being mad over gw2 is ridiculous really. i mean so what if you cant take over all your old stuff and characters. i personally think that is a good thing as it presents a whole new challenge. if you just whizz through the main part of the game with one character people can lose intrest quickly.

but the point is, if everyone had the same attitude you would still be playing crappy games on the snes... i dont see why developing something to make it better is seen as such a negative thing.

i really cant wait till gw2, the game is only going to get better, and i can understand people being mad about losing all their game hours and hard work... but, is it really that bad? your life wont get worse because you cant 'pwn noobs' in the same way you used to. becuase for the first couple of months everyone will be a noob. and i for one think this is a good thing, it presents an exciting new chance for all parties involved...

...lets just rock on yeah?

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03/28/07 11:26

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...damn double post, its deleted now

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03/28/07 11:26

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

dont know if this has been said or not but,
I'd like to see weapons and armour been brought in but since its the future all weapons and armour would be alot weaker in comparasin to the new armour,meaning that your work isnt wasted and it doesnt really mess things up imo.the holiday stuff should be brought in anyway as its pretty much the same here,only peopoe going for titlesd really want it

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03/28/07 11:54

mist of truth

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k i have a really dumb question i really want to know wut u people think though.the hall of mountments or wutever is said to pass stuff down from the past,and mayb u will be related to ur old char,now heres the question if i make a charr or and norn or asura or other race does that mean that my old guy did a interrace(not skin color)deed with a charr or something?cause they will be related so thats weird.tell me wut u think of this.

03/28/07 11:56

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

i think i must be the only person out there who does not want to know any details about GW2 i heard a few things but im not activly searching for any scrap of info about it ;)
i think one of the best bits about a all new game is that it is 'ALL NEW' i dont want to use an old char or any of my old weapons, i dont even want my titles moved over...
i want to start fresh and feeling lost and confused about everything! xD
for example with the release of factions and nightfall with the thanks of wiki everybody knows everything about anything, and it takes away from the expierence of finding stuff out for yourself :)
just try your hardest to enjoy GW1 until boom! GW2 arrives, 2 years is gonna drag like crazy if your thinking about it and checking for new posts and info everyday lol

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03/28/07 12:10

stanzhao1

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

amen to that brother!

its true, i love that experience of getting a new game then throwing the manual as far away from the computer as possible and just playing the game!

03/28/07 12:41

thaskippy

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dude GW 2 is a totally new game so plz don't whine... i don't here anyone whining when they can't take there elder scrolls 3: morrowind character to elder scrolls 4: obvlivion ...

i mean come on it is a new game so to me it is pretty obvious you can't take anything from gw 1 to gw 2

(another lame example)
i wanted to take sgt. cortez (timesplitters) to guildwars nightfall but when i heard it wasn't possible i was really pissed off !! cuz i mean every game should be accesable for sgt. cortez !! AND I WHEN WANTED TO KILL LITTLE KITTENS IN HELLO KITTY: ON ADVENTURE, WITH MY GUILDWARS ASSASSIN I COULDN'T DO THAT EITHER !! YOU KNOW WHY ???? BECAUSE IT IS AN OTHER GAME !!!!!!

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03/28/07 13:23

jak the fallen

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

i think itll be awsome, but look, its ganna be a new game, higher levals, wich i rly like constant level grinding, so armour and weapons will change alot, more and new skillz, completly new game, but most of all, we get the expansion this year, then well have to wait like 2-3 years for GW2 just think about it...

03/28/07 13:35

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

The GW site says that we'll be able to move our "attire" over to the New Game. In a way it makes sense as it can then be considered "heirloom" armour or weapons which you can only get in GW1 gives people incentive to play BOTH games. Gaile Grey said we can even use our old Char. Names as they will be reserved. What I would want would be able to port over my Guild Name and Cape (After 100 yrs I would love to have it as honorable guild history). I like the idea of new chars, races, etc. but since it ISN'T a new world but just in the future the old stuff (title, names and guild name + capes) give a persistant history in the new game.

03/28/07 13:50

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03/28/07 13:50

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03/28/07 13:51

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03/28/07 13:51

jak the fallen

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RE: Serious talk about GW2!!!

oh, and also, noone try to say that their trying to be like WoW because thier not, thier alot of mmos with stuff that WoW has and its not like WoW was the first with all that stuff

03/28/07 13:58

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I could personally care less about my items and armor. yes it will be sad to see my 15k go down the drain, but I understand the economy revamp. But what I don't understand is why I'm not aloowed to take my characters and their skills? I can always get more gold by farming etc. but spending countless hours REDOING my characters and regaining all their skills seems absolutely repetitive to me. But then again, I can see people using their currently overpowered skills in the new noob areas, powering their way through the game and then ruining the economy all over again farming the "good greens" before anyone else can. So it's a trade off. I know why they are doing it, but on the other hand I don't like wasting my time. I hate the fact that everything I've done up to this point will be pointless in two years when I have to start new.

03/28/07 15:08

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