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Ive been playing GW for a long time and there is something that I havnt figured out. Why do monks use sword/spears with 20% mod instead of using a staff or wand with the same or better stats?
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| 04/21/07 19:06 |
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| QUOTE | | Ive been playing GW for a long time and there is something that I havnt figured out. Why do monks use sword/spears with 20% mod instead of using a staff or wand with the same or better stats? |
Only staffs can have 20%enchantment mods on them, so people use a sword with an offhand.
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| 04/21/07 19:07 |
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Albino Monktress
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acually all of the melle weps can have +5 energy mods on them and +20 enchanting
so im acually woeking on getting this combo for my pve monk
gives u more energy acually
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| 04/21/07 19:11 |
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Chaos_Theory
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OH. I see I thought the only reason was weapon skin not just because they can use an off-hand. I was never a fan of off-hands nor am I an expert on off hands. So the shields that some of them use are for protevtion like they have mods that reduces physical damage on them?
I was using a spear w/ 19% enchantment and +5 energy on my monk instead of kephkets refuge that I used to use and i didnt really understand what is so different(wasnt using an off hand). So it is just for extra energy?
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| 04/21/07 19:15 |
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Keo
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Compare Kepkhet's Refuge to a Sword/Offhand combo:
- Kepkhet's Refuge -
* Energy +10
* Fire Damage: 11-22 (req. 9 Divine Favor)
* Halves casting time of Protection Prayers spells (Chance: 20%)
* Halves skill recharge of spells (Chance: 20%)
* Enchantments last 20% longer
* Energy +5
- Sword -
* +5 Energy
* Enchantments Last 20% longer
- Protection Offhand -
* Energy +12
* Halves Cast Time of Protection Prayer Spells
* Halves Recharge Time of Protection Prayer Spells
* HP +30
You can see that with a Sword/Focus combo you get 7 extra energy and an extra mod (in this case the +30). 7 extra energy doesn't sound a lot but it's enough for 1 spell and if that's WoH it could end up saving the team in a fight.
With a combo set up you can shape the build exactly to suit you, when I heal I use a +5 20% enchant sword for everything and just swap the offhand item for what I need. When I go Prot I usually use a Kepkhet's simply because I don't have a good Prot offhand.
I'll leave it to a PvP'er to explain the uses in PvP since I understand that good PvP Monks often use 3 weapon sets throughout a match.
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| 04/21/07 19:28 |
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People use staffs now in pvp because of the inscription on staffs for energy +5^50 which they use as a second set. With a staff with Insightful head and a Energy +5^50 I can get 58 energy which is good for a monk
quit gw for good. end of story.
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| 04/21/07 19:31 |
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Actually, my monk doesn't use +5 energy.
I use a Sword with a HSR 10% inscription and 20% enchant.
I find that the extra 10% HSR works better than an extra +5 energy, since with the builds I run, energy isn't much of a problem.
And Keo, how'd you get the 3 mods on that offhand? You can't have HSR/HCT and +30hp.
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| 04/21/07 19:32 |
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Keo
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| QUOTE | | And Keo, how'd you get the 3 mods on that offhand? You can't have HSR/HCT and +30hp. |
You may have me there.....I could have sworn I had an indescribable offhand from a NF collector which I put a +45^enchant mod on.
I also use a Wand with I think HRT so that I can double it up with my focus but I might be wrong there as well. I should really check my kit!
I fail :/
Now the question is do I edit all the posts to cover my mistake and make sure the world never knows or....
Edit: Kit
These are the sets I mostly use:
Dunno where I got the OffHand idea from :/ I like the sword since it makes Healing enchants like Vig Spirit & Seed last a little longer.
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| 04/21/07 19:50 |
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| QUOTE |
Now the question is do I edit all the posts to cover my mistake and make sure the world never knows or....
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Well, you could always kill me, but that gets messy and nobody likes a murderer.
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| 04/21/07 19:53 |
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I use a -5 en chaos axe :) cause it help me with energy management, so I wont spam too much ^^, I try to stay on my low energy swap all the time, might change my set cause my chaos ain't my best looking weap :S
oh hai.
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| 04/21/07 19:54 |
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Well I can explain The PvP sets:
Set 1: Negative Energy
you use a negative energy weapon (-5 energy, +15% dmg) and no a shield that helps against fire dmg or like slashing
Set 2: Normal Set
This set is for normal everyday monking
Set 3: High Energy Set
This set uses a wand and offhand both with +15 energy and -1 regen
Set 1 is used at the beginning of the match, this way if you get e-denied down to 0, you can switch to your normal set and "gain" energy. Set 3 is used in extreme conditions where you are at around 0 energy and you NEED a heal, when using this set remember that when you switch back to the normal/low set for the energy regen, you will be at 0 for a while until you get it back up
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| 04/21/07 20:49 |
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| QUOTE | Well I can explain The PvP sets:
Set 1: Negative Energy
you use a negative energy weapon (-5 energy, +15% dmg) and no a shield that helps against fire dmg or like slashing
Set 2: Normal Set
This set is for normal everyday monking
Set 3: High Energy Set
This set uses a wand and offhand both with +15 energy and -1 regen
Set 1 is used at the beginning of the match, this way if you get e-denied down to 0, you can switch to your normal set and "gain" energy. Set 3 is used in extreme conditions where you are at around 0 energy and you NEED a heal, when using this set remember that when you switch back to the normal/low set for the energy regen, you will be at 0 for a while until you get it back up |
I understand it now. You all did a good job explaining it to me because I just couldnt understand it. I guess I need to get a good protection off-hand.
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| 04/22/07 06:13 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | Well I can explain The PvP sets:
Set 1: Negative Energy
you use a negative energy weapon (-5 energy, +15% dmg) and no a shield that helps against fire dmg or like slashing
Set 2: Normal Set
This set is for normal everyday monking
Set 3: High Energy Set
This set uses a wand and offhand both with +15 energy and -1 regen
Set 1 is used at the beginning of the match, this way if you get e-denied down to 0, you can switch to your normal set and "gain" energy. Set 3 is used in extreme conditions where you are at around 0 energy and you NEED a heal, when using this set remember that when you switch back to the normal/low set for the energy regen, you will be at 0 for a while until you get it back up |
I understand it now. You all did a good job explaining it to me because I just couldnt understand it. I guess I need to get a good protection off-hand. |
hey thanxs also just got the +5 energy one now i need the +15 -1 and the -5 +15%
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| 04/22/07 08:17 |
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eh... swords can have +30 health mod and wands can only do a 10% recharge(on skills) or 20%recharge(on items attribute) mod, at least that is why me and my friends use swords with our monks.(i still suck at monking though...)
and the reason for a sword+focus instead of a staff is that you can have +60 health instead of the +30 a staff can give you, also a sword+focus gives more energy than a staff if you mod it for energy.
i don't know if this is the reason why everyone uses it, but me and my friends do it for this simple reason.
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| 04/22/07 08:57 |
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When I monk I use 4 different sets and try to keep the amount of energy gained equal, which in my case is + 10 energy for each weapon set (except for the highest ofc).
First set is: a -5 energy sword with a 30 hp mod and a shield with +10 armour vs whatever the team we come up against is running.
The reason why monks have shields is because, even if you don't meet the requirements to get the 16 armour, you still get half of it and you get +10 vs whatever you feel is making the most dmg at the time.
I use this set for when I come up against e-denial mesmers, "fear me" warriors. Great way to hide energy. I also swap to this set before I use Purge Signet (if i have it equipped on my bar.)
Second set is: a +5 energy spear with a health mod and a shield armour +10 vs X. Spears are great if you come up against a trapper. Even if you don't do dmg against him, you always have a good chance to interrupt his traps which will be a relief for your monks energy. This is my main set. If i get low on energy on this set I always call it so that the team can move back abit.
Third set is: +5 energy spear w/ HP mod and a monk offhand. HSR 10% +30hp if running prot and HSR 20% +30hp if heal. Count this as highest set for me. Yes some people use staves but I like to keep the amount of health gained the same for each weapon set. It's no fun if you get trained, get low on energy and lose 30 health because you need the extra energy.
Fourth set: Usually a HSR healing prayers 40% set but in case of extreme emergencies I use the +15 energy/ - 1 energy regen wand and offhand.
This is ofc only my preferences. Other monks have enchanting mods and armour +5 mods but I prefer the extra health and let my monks armour take care of the rest. Some uses staves. Also, as someone explained before me, most monks run swords/spears in PVP because you can equip health/enchanting/armour mods on them instead of getting stuck with HSR/HCT energy +5 mods. During the return dark escape monk era, which is slowly coming back, alot of monks also had a crippling mod on their swords/spears.
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| 04/23/07 19:57 |
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