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Just wondering with profession u guys think is the most USELESS prof. in guild wars My opinion is warriors since I got survivor title with all prof. but not with warrior [/LINE]
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| 05/17/07 13:14 |
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Kanna
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There really isn't a "best" character. Personally, I would say everything but Monk is the most useless, just cause Monk is my favorite class. But you can't base what is best and not best off of that.
All classes have their strong points and weak points. But all in all, all 10 professions are great. :)
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| 05/17/07 13:17 |
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Rogue
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Ritualists, mobility is key, rit's limit that. Which is why you see rit skills like weapon of warding being used on elementalists, but not spirits.
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| 05/17/07 13:21 |
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Ardore
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I think mesmer is useless, I just cant stand it. Its weak, and I dont like its spells.
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| 05/17/07 13:37 |
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D_Smag
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I've never been a big fan of Rits either
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| 05/17/07 14:03 |
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mesmers are definetly the best, as for the most useless i would have to say paragon
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| 05/17/07 14:14 |
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Yep paragons suck
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| 05/17/07 14:21 |
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WHAT?
Mesmers, ritualists and Paragons RULE....
Assassins are probably the least loved class...though they're still cool...
Although I admit rits do seem a leeetle pointless, but they're still good....
And paragons provide vital backup.... they give healing, attack bonused etc... extremely useful...
Mesmers are awesome anti-casters... people don't like them because they're tough to be good at...
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| 05/17/07 14:26 |
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All 10 professions are balanced.I like them all .There inst useless profession.Every profession is better in something Mesmers are realy good in pvp.paragons are very good in groups in pve they can save the group.
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| 05/17/07 14:27 |
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paragons is the most worthless class going by far, there crap farmers, worthless to groups in pve 90% the time and imo a worthless pvp class aswell cept for AB which then there chants and shouts are worth a damn.
Edit: forgot 2 mention sins kick ass in pve if used properly but simply put not every idiot can play them in pve which is why you rarely ever see them.
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| 05/17/07 14:56 |
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Well i can see your points with ritualist being useless since they cant move while summoning spirits that cant move. Butit is still my favorite proffession to play b/c of annoyingspirits that do a constant armor ignoring damage that can be increased to devestating amounts.
Ill have to say Paragon. They have been nerfed to hell. I dont understand the high AL if all you are is a backline cheerleader. But I do like the anthem casting animation.
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| 05/17/07 15:05 |
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I have to stick up for the Ritualist, if you forget the Spirit builds and think about utilising channeling skills you can be a very mobile and formidable opponent.
Hard to say which is the worst, in PvE I've never much liked the Assassin, there were so many bad ones around during the early days of Factions and I still can't quite get that idea of the suicidal tanking assassin out of my head...
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| 05/17/07 15:18 |
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| QUOTE | I think mesmer is useless, I just cant stand it. Its weak, and I dont like its spells.
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this is hurting me to the core of my being,,,
weak : not true if you have a good built
Spells : some of those spells are use by many of the other profession, namelly Echo (Echo nukker for exemple)
of all my character, my favorite is and will always be my mesmer,,,
enough ranting :)
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| 05/17/07 15:24 |
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Two words in support of Ritualists: Weapon Spells.
Though I love my paragon and spiking damage (100+ on 60AL consistantly!) I really can't choose a good elite. Incoming used to be great, but now it's near worthless.
Soldier's Fury is okay, but there are non-elite skills that work unconditionally. Frenzy is awesome for backline people like Paragons.
Focused Anger is fine, but it's not 100% maintainable without Serpent's or QZ.
Aria of Restoration is decent, add that to the other chants similar to it, and you've got decent party-wide healing.
It's Just a Flesh Wound and Cautery Signet are very nice, but there isn't much opportunity in PvE to use them to their full advantage. I find myself only using it to remove 1-2 conditions on half the team.
But what made Paragons worse was the recent update that made chants/shouts work only on partymembers. Half the fun was cut out when they did that.
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| 05/17/07 15:30 |
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There is no "Best" or "Worst" profession.
All the professions have their pros and cons, it depends on
your playing style and what you enjoy.
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| 05/17/07 16:39 |
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| QUOTE | | I think mesmer is useless, I just cant stand it. Its weak, and I dont like its spells. |
Sorry to say this then but Mesmer is the best proffesion in the game. Can beat anything.
once you're exp. enough and actually played pvp THEN you will find out that there is no useless or bad proffesion in the game, you can't say "hey this proffesion sucks" just because you beat something in pve and you're a pro farmer...anybody can do that, killing stuff in pve which is controlled by the computer requieres very little skill.
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| 05/17/07 16:46 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | I think mesmer is useless, I just cant stand it. Its weak, and I don't like its spells. |
Sorry to say this then but Mesmer is the best profession in the game. Can beat anything.
once you're exp. enough and actually played pvp THEN you will find out that there is no useless or bad profession in the game, you can't say "hey this profession sucks" just because you beat something in pve and you're a pro farmer...anybody can do that, killing stuff in pve which is controlled by the computer requires very little skill. |
I definitely don't agree with the mesmer is the best profession statement in pve they arn't great from my experience but in pvp they have their uses. the statement "they can beat anything" doesn't mean much because in pvp anything can beat anything.
PS I don't mean to dis the mesmer most of my champ points are from messing and I like them but I just really havn't found any useful build for them in pve.
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| 05/17/07 16:52 |
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| QUOTE | Two words in support of Ritualists: Weapon Spells.
Though I love my paragon and spiking damage (100+ on 60AL consistantly!) I really can't choose a good elite. Incoming used to be great, but now it's near worthless.
Soldier's Fury is okay, but there are non-elite skills that work unconditionally. Frenzy is awesome for backline people like Paragons.
Focused Anger is fine, but it's not 100% maintainable without Serpent's or QZ.
Aria of Restoration is decent, add that to the other chants similar to it, and you've got decent party-wide healing.
It's Just a Flesh Wound and Cautery Signet are very nice, but there isn't much opportunity in PvE to use them to their full advantage. I find myself only using it to remove 1-2 conditions on half the team.
But what made Paragons worse was the recent update that made chants/shouts work only on partymembers. Half the fun was cut out when they did that. |
What about cruel spear? High damage, almost always deep wound.
Or stunning strike, Extra damage and dazed!
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| 05/17/07 17:04 |
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S L I M E, you can most definitely get survivor with a warrior. My friend is r2 survivor and working on r3 survivor atm with his warrior. He had one before that died at 731k exp which shows that if you know how to play it right wars can get r3 survivor.
I love my warrior, and my pvp rit. Warriors are so much fun especially since their gear looks freakin sweet. And with my rit I have a Rit/A healer using all rit skills and dash which I almost never die in AB or RA with.
quit gw for good. end of story.
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| 05/17/07 17:11 |
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Most useless class in guildwars...
Elementalist/Assassin
Weapon: Fire Staff, unmodded.
Attributes:
16 Fire
15 Energy Storage
Skills:
1. Deadly Haste
2. Critical Strike
3. Twisting Fangs
4. Blades of Steel
5. Exhausting Assault
6. Jungle STrike
7. Deadly Paradox
8. Ether Prodigy [Elite]
There, try that for most useless class/build :O
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| 05/17/07 18:12 |
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| QUOTE | Most useless class in guildwars...
Elementalist/Assassin
Weapon: Fire Staff, unmodded.
Attributes:
16 Fire
15 Energy Storage
Skills:
1. Deadly Haste
2. Critical Strike
3. Twisting Fangs
4. Blades of Steel
5. Exhausting Assault
6. Jungle STrike
7. Deadly Paradox
8. Ether Prodigy [Elite]
There, try that for most useless class/build :O |
Hey! wouldnt that be a build!? lol and why u saying elementalist?
Worst Class = Paragon By far.
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| 05/17/07 18:27 |
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paragons are so useless since the chants and shouts have all been nerfed badly. Now a paragon is an OK supporter but there are better classes out there to take it's place. They have mediocre shouts and chants and the best thing is using spears so i think that Anet has really made that a class they nerfed to death. Poor "Incoming!"...
quit gw for good. end of story.
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| 05/17/07 18:29 |
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I agree that Rits are decent, but mostly with weapon spells, everything else is sub par or gimicky.
As for Survivor with a warrior.... wow I got legendary in 86 hours, several of which were spent AFK in the guild hall or dancing in the guild hall talking. So probably 81-2 hours of actual playtime. Before that I had 56 hours of playtime and died at 1.3m exp, 35k exp away from Legendary. So yeah, survivor is easy on a warrior.
Also, everyone stop saying mesmers (or anything for that matter) is the best profession. You're wrong. If you were right, you'd see a team of 8 mesmers rolling everyone at the highest level of PvP. Which in fact doesn't happen, and rarely do you even see more than one or two mesmers per team. Mesmers are not the gods people make them out to be. In terms of DPS they're really really bad compared to other professions. In terms of shutdown and wide scale energy draining, they're good.
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| 05/17/07 18:48 |
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cswella
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| QUOTE |
What about cruel spear? High damage, almost always deep wound.
Or stunning strike, Extra damage and dazed! |
Which falls under my comment about spiking damage.
But what I'm talking about is the paragon's role in a team setting.
The big thing about Paragons is their shouts, which are fairly difficult to counter. They affect everyone within earshot instantly, giving them benefits like increased chance to critical, or energy when they cast a spell or attack.
But most of the Paragon Elites are fairly boring. And more of them are useless in PvE.
Anthem of Guidance? Doesn't really excite me, most of the warriors/rangers/dervishes/assassins who I run with can handle their own situations regarding being blocked.
Crippling Anthem? Have fun with that, most enemies don't really run anymore.
Angelic Bond? Maybe if it was a shout that could help with spikes, I'd use it more. 2 second casting AND no Damage Reduction like Life Bond. Life Bond is much better and it's not even elite! I know it can be removed, as it's an enchant, but aren't elites supposed to be better than non-elites?
Anthem of Fury? Not worth the elite skillslot. Maybe if it gave the adrenaline unconditionally, it might be nice to help charge up before battle.
Defensive Anthem? Aegis beats this one. All Anet would have to do is remove the "if target foe attacks" qualifier.
The Power is Yours? Not dissing this one, Adrenaline-based Paragon can do very well with this. Although in normal PvE, most everyone can handle their energy fairly well.
Song of Purification? Cautery Signet and It's Just A Flesh Wound beat it completely. A spellcaster with Dazed buried won't benefit from this skill. The 20 second duration is very nice though.
So overall, I love paragons, and think their dps and healing is great. But there are a few things Anet could do to make up for the Incoming and Party-Members-Only changes.
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| 05/17/07 18:58 |
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