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Psychomaze

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After The Searing, what to do now?

Has anyone had this happen: You start playing a game, having a grand old time and then after a major event (i.e. The Searing) and suddenly the spark of interest you once had went *poof* I've become bored, but I'm not yet ready put down the game.

This is what sucks in being a casual player who works on average of 50+ hours a week: So little time each evening to really get started on anything so there is no point in finding a buddy to quest with and on the weekends, real life tends to take away from your game time.

This makes each and every moment of my online game time where I quest Solo.

With the instance system, that can make for a very boring time of quest grinding. Which is why I quit playing WoW.

Any ideas on what I can do or little tricks I should try to make things interesting again. At this time I only have Prophecies and I have enough coin to purchase another game and wonder which would be worth buying this week? Factions or Nightfall?

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06/07/07 11:53

Tha Golden Warrior

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

hmm i'd say find a good guild that will help you with all the quests and missions =)

06/07/07 12:02

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

Before buying Nightfall or Factions I would definitely reccomend completeing Prophesies first. What keeps me going is setting myself goals. Nowadays I only do PvE for titles, Armour and money. Mixing up what I do with a mixture of these, and a fair dosage of PvP keeps my interested in the game. Also having a friendly guild you can call home is enough excuse in itself to keep logging in. The people you meet in game really can make or break the experience for you.

You say you do most things alone (with hench pressumably) due to time restraints, well, that's perfectly viable. Most missions can be completed with hench, and heroes make that even more useful, although your options for those are limited to just Olias I think in Prophecies.

Perhaps set yourself targets, complete 1 mission per evening for instance, and you will be through the game in no time. The rewards of new armour and new skills can often be enough to rekindle your efforts in pushing further through, using the same skillset can be pretty boring. I'm sure everyone with an ele remembers the first time they got to use Meteor Shower xD

How far are you through the game, and which characters do you have? It's quite possible you just aren't that keen on the character you've chosen. Prophesies has6 to choose from, all of which are quite different, it's definitely worth finding out which is the best for you.

Good luck questing, and remember you can always shout on here for help if needed ^^

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06/07/07 12:05

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

Well, first of all, this is one of the better posts from the last few days, its not like all other posts in which is stated they'r bored but then mostly there aint stated which kind of advice they want. Compliments on explaining things.

Further, back on topic, I guess you should look for a nice and active guild, willing to accept you together with your restrictments.

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06/07/07 12:08

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

I really liked the pre-searing when i 1st started GW and the post searing ascalon i disliked cos it was ugly and seemed really slow. I found Prophecies slow and a tad boring but it helped me get used to the game which is always good. I found as soon as i got to shiverpeaks and kryta i was more interested in the game than i was in post searing ascalon. Most missions in Prophecies dont take too long, some where around 10-20 mins a mission and the primary quests are about the same, so for a casual player you should be able to get through the story line without dedicated large amounts of time. Play through it and the interest should come back once you discover new places and if not you could always buy a new GW chapter.

If you did decide to buy a new chapter then Factions is good because it gets you into the higher level areas quicker and gives access to the Ritualist and Assasin proffessions.
Nightfall gives you access to the Dervish and paragon and heroes which are better than henchmen.

I would go with Nightfall becuase of the heroes and the storyline is longer than that of factions so it will keep you interested for longer. But it is best to complete the chapter you have 1st.

Also a good active guild will help keep you playing the game :D

06/07/07 12:08

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

PvP GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO

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06/07/07 12:12

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

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PvP GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO

Before you jump into PvP, you said you have enough coinz for either Factions or Nightfall eh? Consider Buying Nightfall before jumping into PvP, Nightfall has more skills including ones that can prove very handy for use in PvP, makes it that much easier plus would make you overall more flexible in PvP, otherwise you'd be limited to just a few skills.
Ofcourse thats my opinion and you may do whatever you want to, but PvP would be better if you'd have Nightfall especially.

Plus, Nightfall has alot more things to offer, such as heroes, you said you don't have a good buddy to help you, even when you join a ''good'' guild, if you have a very limited playtime each day then sometimes you cant even spend the time waiting for guildies to show up, thats where you got Heroes for (As you might know, in Nightfall you get Heroes which are customizable Henchmen, far more powerfull) ;)

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Before buying Nightfall or Factions I would definitely reccomend completeing Prophesies first.

See if you can delay that until you have Nightfall, the heroes will make it easier and if your time is limited then its very hard to find a group for it, unless you can make a planning on which time you do what and others (buddies, guildies or something) will show up, will probably be hard though.

Good Luck with the choice.

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06/07/07 12:27

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

AB
FoW
UW
Title Farming
Elite Capping

There's plenty to do...

Try FoW though....

06/07/07 12:34

Psychomaze

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

Thank you guys for your welcome and honest and reasonable advise. I'll go get Factions since it will have Heroes which have that customizable henchmen that will be helpful and don't mind to be at my becking call and don't get all emo if I have to log out suddenly.

Tho, I won't be able to do so until tonight so I have some questions about Heroes. How much XP and Loot do they take?

Also, the guild that I joined on average has 5 active members and like 8 on the alliance chat. I think I need to find a more active guild since having a good chat also helps as I play solo.

So are there any guilds that are willing to take a casual player like me and is active? If they offer to help out is a plus, but I like to prove that I'm a better gamer and refuse to EVER beg for gold and items. (The again the help that I appreciate is a few tips on where to go on a mission/quest - not hold my little hand and do it for me)

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06/07/07 12:37

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

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Thank you guys for your welcome and honest and reasonable advise. I'll go get Factions since it will have Heroes which have that customizable henchmen that will be helpful

NO NO NO NO!!!!

Its NIGHTFALL! :P

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06/07/07 12:43

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

its nightfall that has heros so you dont buy the wrong game lol, and heros take the same as henchmen but there capable of being far more reliable pending on wat skills u set them with.

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06/07/07 12:46

Psychomaze

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

*brainfart*

But then again, I'm at work posting this and there are not too many tech support calls today.

Heaven help the poor soul who gets me on the phone to troubleshoot something.

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06/07/07 12:47

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

I've to agree on that, heroes make it so much easier.

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06/07/07 12:48

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

You don't get heroes unless you own Nightfall. Even to access Olias and Zenmai, you must own Nightfall.

I agree with the others, Nightfall is a better selection for you now, so you can have the heroes to help you out and plus it allows you to tinker with their skills to find what works best for you.

Honestly, I was in the same rut almost 2 years ago, started the game, played for 2 weeks, got to Post Sear, lost interest and stopped playing for a year.

What got me interested again was playing a new class that I found more challenging, and joining an active guild with Teamspeak, so I got to meet a lot more players and have people to talk to :-)

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06/07/07 12:52

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

Welcome to the forums!

It's Nightfall not Factions that has customisable henchmen in the form of Heros :=)

I felt exactly the same as you after leaving pre-searing, after being in that lush beautiful landscape moving into what seems a vast desolate area is hard to adjust to, I stopped playing for a few weeks, obviously I came back and completed the whole of the ascalon areas before moving on to the Northern Shiverpeaks which will give you a much nicer change in scenery. It really is worth getting through that red desolate landscape so you can get to see and enjoy the diverse landscapes that will give you plenty of eye candy later on in the game. Prophecies is an awesome chapter, you won't be dissapointed by it if your can get through this 'rough patch'.

Getting in a guild is going to benefit you greatly, not necesarily because your going to have people on hand to help but because you will have that human contact that makes the MMO games what they are.

If you invest in a new chapter, from your experience, I would recommend Nightfall rather than Factions for 3 reasons, in Factions you will have a similer experience when you move from Shing Jea Island (Factions newbie island and it's version of Pre) into Keinang City, some people find it confusing, too much of the shanty town style landscape put alot of people off. The second reason why I think Nightfall would be a better choice is because of the Heros, not only are they customisable but they give you a good insight into other professions which will help should you decide to create another toon later. Thirdly as Nightfall is the last release it is more highly populated so the opportunity of picking up a good random group (PUG) to play with will be higher.

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06/07/07 12:57

Xellois55

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

However, he/she will still be able to get Olias, cause he/she has Prophecies.

Well, i see alot of different opinions, some based on what the previos person said and others on what they like, some people prefer to be die-hard and play prophecies till the end without any support like heroes just pure guilds, true, but you have limited time as you said, so their own liking is all fine, but for you it would only cause major trouble.
PvP is also a nice idea that you can try out, however with only prophecies i would say that your options in the matter of skills to use, is severely limited, making PvP boring soon enough as you find yourself staring at the skills that beat you time and time again that you can't possibly use :(

We are only suggesting, your choice after all, is in your hands.
But considering your posting here about what next now you done some things in Prophecies (with ofcourse limited time) i would say that Nightfall is indeed the best choice for you, you'll love it. ;)

P.S As for PvP, although Factions gives you Alliance Battles, Nightfall gives you hero Battles, something you might find interesting as to see who got the better NPC's with him/her ;]

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If you invest in a new chapter, from your experience, I would recommend Nightfall rather than Factions for 3 reasons, in Factions you will have a similer experience when you move from Shing Jea Island (Factions newbie island and it's version of Pre) into Keinang City, some people find it confusing, too much of the shanty town style landscape put alot of people off. The second reason why I think Nightfall would be a better choice is because of the Heros, not only are they customisable but they give you a good insight into other professions which will help should you decide to create another toon later. Thirdly as Nightfall is the last release it is more highly populated so the opportunity of picking up a good random group (PUG) to play with will be higher

Very True, the first days in Ascalon after the searing cause alot of people to quit for a while, or find out about runners, cause after that much ashes and red sky you really do get bored of the scenery, same for Kaineng, after a while your just dying to find something new, and it just wont come until the very end :P

Heroes indeed give you insight into the other professions, both strenghts and weaknesses, and there are alot of roleplaying builds(skillsets) around that you can use for them.

Nightfalls is more populated, however be aware that random groups usually have a 10-20 minute waiting time in my experience, cause their all random people checking eachothers builds and all that, makes it sometimes very tricky to actually get it going instead of standing around chatting and waiting for that last monk to switch to protection instead of healing (just an example)

All in all, i think its clear to you what the best choice is, Nightfall ;)

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06/07/07 12:59

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

Of all the things said above, I have to agree. Having a good guild (hopefully with Ventrilo or TeamSpeak allows you to get work done faster and with a lot more fun. I'm talking five to ten times as fun. I never really played guildwars much until I found an amazing PvP guild. We played a lot and got all the way up to rank 45 but then we bought a guild for about 3 million gold (can't really remember name, they had silver capes iQ or something). But the money transfer didn't work out right and a lot of guildies raged out of the guild on us. After that, I too quit. So I hope that story wasn't too long, but I wanted to point out that getting/loosing a good guild can make or break the game.

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06/07/07 13:06

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

I think you may have misread the posts above. If you want customizeable henchmen (aka Heroes), then you need to pick up Nightfall, not Factions.

Other things to keep in mind when getting the Heroes:

1. Your character has to make it to Lion's Arch before you can visit another continent.

2. You'll have to do a quest to GET to the other continent.

3. You'll have to do quests in Nightfall to obtain your Heroes.

4. The Heroes you'll pick up will have a limited amount of skill choices based on how many skills your account has unlocked for the various professions.

5. You are only able to use up to 3 of your Heroes in a party. Other players are able to use 3 of their Heroes in your party also. For example, in an area where the party limit is 4, your party could be you and 3 Heroes. In an are where the limit is 6, it would be you, 3 Heroes and 2 henchmen.....etc.

I hope all that makes sense. If you do require help in the game, feel free to hit me up. I'd be happy to help a new player that is willing to learn. You don't seem like the type of person that's looking for a handout....that's why I'll offer my help.

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06/07/07 13:06

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

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I have to disagree, it depends what position you are in that particular guild, and what your styles of playing are.
He's most likely going for roleplaying at first, cause hardcore PvP for 100% efficiency requires all campaigns.

Plus, you said it yourself, you dont played much of guildwars until you found a good PvP guild, he on the other hand has limited playing time, most possibly he cant even be able to show up at most times when such a guild starts its events, unless they'd all change the time in his favor, which is quite rare i might add.

I doubt he'll find himself in the rare event of buying a guild if he's in one, and you mentioned your guildies raged out? Why? Did you actually bought the guild with just a few friends to abandon them? Theres probably an obvious reason you aren't mentioning in the post, raging is easily said, but they must got fed up about something right?

Anyways, Good Luck with Nightfall ;)

06/07/07 13:12

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

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AB
FoW
UW
Title Farming
Elite Capping

There's plenty to do...

Try FoW though....

Just to let you know, he only has prophecies, which means no AB, he just got past the searing, which means no FoW, UW, or elite capping, and he probably doesnt care about titles yet.

Back on topic: As said, get a good guild. Since your also new to Gameamp, I reccomend you start a forum before the day you do a mission, you have plenty of time to get people, and you can tell them a good time, where to meet ( Ex; Great Wall, Int dis 1, 12:00p.m gmt ) but if you get tired of hench, when you reach lions arch, get Nightfall, and get to Kamadan, the starting place in Nightfall. Get yourself a few heros, customize their skill-sets, etc.. hopefully this helps.

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06/07/07 13:49

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

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Just to let you know, he only has prophecies, which means no AB, he just got past the searing, which means no FoW, UW, or elite capping, and he probably doesnt care about titles yet.

... she ... I thought my user photo would have established that by now.

I have pondered about the titles, but since my highest character is level 9, I have put that off for something to do later.

Okay, since the Asclaon ruins are a drag... what is the quickest way to blow through this area and get out of this rut?

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06/07/07 13:57

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

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.. she ... I thought my user photo would have established that by now.

Sorry, no offense but this is the internet, if someone has an avatar displaying E.T, its not that we think that person's an alien, same for your avatar, could mean so many things really...

06/07/07 14:11

Mitch

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

you cud try getting a runner thru it and stop at either the shiverpeaks or skip directly to kryta. its an easy run assuming the runner isnt retarded.

@xello i agree wit ya m8, cud just mean the person is preverted like myself....sadly porno avatars wud get me banned or a severe warning lol ;)

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06/07/07 14:12

chiellus

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

Enough guilds out there. No problem. And when they don't deliver what they promise, find another. Enough of those around. When your european and don't know anymore, just ask us for an invite.

Anyway: just take it one step at a time. Casual players are also players, and enough guilds willing to help and available. Just don't let yourself be intimidated by people who call you noob, since people tend to forget they were noobs themselves once. Everyone started once, and not everyone has got the same experience. So... Just go with the flow, and do not let yourself get discouraged.

There's so much to do, that after 1,5 years and too many hours a day I have not done everything there is to do myself so....

I suggest you set your first goal as to get max level armor first and complete prophecies. When you've done so, you'll be ready to take on the rest of the world!

(though playing some nightfall to get the heroes is nice as well, though you need some high level guildies to be able to get there... or start of course with a whole new char... but still... imho prophecies still has the best learning curve. Remember: getting good at something takes time! )

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06/07/07 14:45

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

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Runners are nice, but spoil some training and the story. For the first char out there, I do suggest a runner from Beacon's to Drok's for the max level armor. But then back again for following the story.

2nd and further, why bother!

Just my 2 cents, if you do not care about the story, yup... get yourself run to Lion's Arch and take it from there....

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06/07/07 14:49

Psychomaze

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

What about the job classes that come with the expansions.... how are they?

Anything interesting with them? Can they played with prophecies?

what I mean is that can you make a character and play the prof. campaign with them??

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06/07/07 14:54

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

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I suggest you set your first goal as to get max level armor first and complete prophecies. When you've done so, you'll be ready to take on the rest of the world!

I would rather advice him to get Nightfall first as objective, with heroes Prophecies is so much easier, even with a guild, he will not always find the good moment that alot can help along with his limited playtime.

06/07/07 14:55

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

any proff can be played in any campaign, the nightfall proffs are paragon, a supportive ranger/warrior mix and imo crap. then theres the dervish which is a warrior/elementalist mix that has bad armor, good dmg and excelent healing if used right

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06/07/07 14:59

chiellus

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

We are trying to advice a new player here. Let's not get overexticed and let's try to remember how we felt during our first month.

I must agree nightfall is good for getting the heroes, but in my humble opinion prophecies is the best way (though the slowest) to learn how to play the game.

2nd reason: lot's of quests get you additional skills, so you can work with different ones without having to buy them, this adds to the learning curve.

About the professions: read yourself into them. Some work for some people others do not. I'm a veteran of almost 2 years and now for the first time really trying to develop and elementalist. And I've never been able to develope a necro. So. These things are personal.

For first timers I still suggest the ranger, warrior, monk and paragon. The other chars are quite difficult to master when you do not have experience in RPG's.

Though, again, this is completely personal. From what I read you just completed pre-searing, try pre-searing again with a different profession. Just to get some feeling. I didn't proceed untill my third character, which was a ranger.
Take it easy and do not get yourself rushed due to people who've been playing for ages and forgot what it was like when they first started.

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06/07/07 15:18

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RE: After The Searing, what to do now?

not advising in her 2 rush it, iv been playing gw over 2yrs now myself and 80% of that time iv spent in tyria, iv made at least 20 tyrian chars and have never gotten sick of it. its the best story by far, has the 6 best classes (expansion chars all crap) its abit slow paced but thats the best part, why you would want to rush yourself into lv20 i dont know, lvl cap is so low, take your time and enjoy it. myself i love the warrior and use a elementalist mix for pve and love playing it. theres plenty 2 chose from and do from just prophicies alone but i do advise on nightfall for some basic heros and then go back to tyria and learn all the basic's so by the time you finish you wont be like some of the idiots iv seen playing endgame areas.

Edit: my advice for starting chars would have to be warrior, elementalist, monk or necro. the ranger is a pretty basic class aswell but the mesmer is more advanced and useless 80% of the time in pve

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